World War 2 RAF Pilots

[Yuri]

If the Nazis won there would be NO middle class or lower class Jews. You'd have Jews working for Hitler and his regime, helping to find and eliminate other Jews . Black people would be the brick layers at the bottom. We'd all be speaking German. Hitler was an intelligent yet insane man due to his philosophy on race, he would have kept black people alive for labour. The order would be;

Germans/Austrians (so called Aryans)

Japanese

Arabs (Middle Eastern and Africa) - Simply because they share the same hatred for Jews due to religion

Other Whites (Europeans etc.)

Asians (Indians, Bangladeshi's, etc)

Blacks

That's my 2 cents

The only Jews left alive would be ones who managed to hide their Jewishness.

Muslim Arabs didn't hate Jews until 1948. Anti-semitism was pretty much a European phenomenon until that point.

And lol @ thinking European whites would be below Muslim Arabs and the Japanese.

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Yeah the way they teach WWII in school it's all about England. Nothing about the Africans and Indians who died, nothing about the fact that Russia is the reason the Germans got stopped, nothing about the 25million Russians who died because of Churchill and the lack of compensation they got from the Allies after the war, nothing about the victories that were won by minorities like black soldiers, then covered up to make it look like white european/american soldiers did it.

[Guest Awesome Kong]

Yeah the way they teach WWII in school it's all about England. Nothing about the Africans and Indians who died, nothing about the fact that Russia is the reason the Germans got stopped, nothing about the 25million Russians who died because of Churchill and the lack of compensation they got from the Allies after the war, nothing about the victories that were won by minorities like black soldiers, then covered up to make it look like white european/american soldiers did it.

The Russians were the first to reach Berlin, but it wasn't ONLY BECAUSE of Russia why the Germans got stopped. It was because of multiple reasons.

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I agree that the way history is taught is f*cked, missing out on the contributions black people made for both sides. There was a film about the black pilots in the US airforce who flew in Europe as escorts. The white american bomber pilots didn't want them to protect them but they come to realise they were some of the best pilots the force had. It start Lawrence "FAILED DAD" Fishburne.

[Yuri]

Yeah the way they teach WWII in school it's all about England. Nothing about the Africans and Indians who died, nothing about the fact that Russia is the reason the Germans got stopped, nothing about the 25million Russians who died because of Churchill and the lack of compensation they got from the Allies after the war, nothing about the victories that were won by minorities like black soldiers, then covered up to make it look like white european/american soldiers did it.

The Russians were the first to reach Berlin, but it wasn't ONLY BECAUSE of Russia why the Germans got stopped. It was because of multiple reasons.

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I agree that the way history is taught is f*cked, missing out on the contributions black people made for both sides. There was a film about the black pilots in the US airforce who flew in Europe as escorts. The white american bomber pilots didn't want them to protect them but they come to realise they were some of the best pilots the force had. It start Lawrence "FAILED DAD" Fishburne.

The Nazis were tearing east through the USSR and slaughtering everything in their way, Stalin begged Churchill to open up the Western Front, to weaken the Germans, and Churchil kept delaying and delaying doing it so that the USSR could take as much of the damage as possible before he had to risk British lives. That's the whole reason Stalin signed a pact with Hitler to begin with, because he was waiting for the British and USA to attack from the West before he entered the war single-handedly. Then once the war was over America and the Allies developed amnesia, declared themselves the glorious victors and shafted the USSR and gave it nothing for its troubles. That's part of the reason Stalin harboured so much animosity towards America and Western Europe.

[Guest Awesome Kong]

Yeah the way they teach WWII in school it's all about England. Nothing about the Africans and Indians who died, nothing about the fact that Russia is the reason the Germans got stopped, nothing about the 25million Russians who died because of Churchill and the lack of compensation they got from the Allies after the war, nothing about the victories that were won by minorities like black soldiers, then covered up to make it look like white european/american soldiers did it.

The Russians were the first to reach Berlin, but it wasn't ONLY BECAUSE of Russia why the Germans got stopped. It was because of multiple reasons.

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I agree that the way history is taught is f*cked, missing out on the contributions black people made for both sides. There was a film about the black pilots in the US airforce who flew in Europe as escorts. The white american bomber pilots didn't want them to protect them but they come to realise they were some of the best pilots the force had. It start Lawrence "FAILED DAD" Fishburne.

The Nazis were tearing east through the USSR and slaughtering everything in their way, Stalin begged Churchill to open up the Western Front, to weaken the Germans, and Churchil kept delaying and delaying doing it so that the USSR could take as much of the damage as possible before he had to risk British lives. That's the whole reason Stalin signed a pact with Hitler to begin with, because he was waiting for the British and USA to attack from the West before he entered the war single-handedly. Then once the war was over America and the Allies developed amnesia, declared themselves the glorious victors and shafted the USSR and gave it nothing for its troubles. That's part of the reason Stalin harboured so much animosity towards America and Western Europe.

I'm not denying what you have typed, but to say it was Russia that stopped the Germans is not true. I actually agree with this post of yours tbh. Stalin was just as evil as Hitler and I'll always consider him waste.

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Only thing I can think of to back Churchils reasoning for not mounting an attack was because of the wolf packs on the conveys. America were waste in both world wars, never really want to help us unless they get attacked or if the war messed with their businesses, now they expect us to join every war they're in, smh.

[Guest Awesome Kong]

The Spitfire >>>>>>> Me bf-109

It's mad how the best engineers in the world were the British & Germans back then.

[Frank.]

On the scale of things the african and indian contribution was minimal and hardly worth a mention, scratch a little deeper and you can find out loads about those units though.

[Thun]

The Spitfire >>>>>>> Me bf-109

It's mad how the best engineers in the world were the British & Germans back then.

Research 'Operation Paperclip'

You will see were all the cream of the crop of scum from Nazi Germany went after the war and some avoiding the Nuremberg trials

[Corrigan]

U think hitler would have rated Arabs and japaneese over other whites?

I know he formed alliances with some Arab groups and with japan as a whole

but once hitler no longer had use for them be certain that he would have turned on them as they didn't fit into his Aryan ideal

Japan would control a larger area than Hitler, he wouldn't have been able to if the USA couldn't have.

lol i agree he wouldn't have been able to

but hitler was off his head with tertiary syhpillis, so he would have tried to chuck a ting eventually

lol this is the same doughnut they try invade russia snm

[Corrigan]

If the Nazis won there would be NO middle class or lower class Jews. You'd have Jews working for Hitler and his regime, helping to find and eliminate other Jews . Black people would be the brick layers at the bottom. We'd all be speaking German. Hitler was an intelligent yet insane man due to his philosophy on race, he would have kept black people alive for labour. The order would be;

Germans/Austrians (so called Aryans)

Japanese

Arabs (Middle Eastern and Africa) - Simply because they share the same hatred for Jews due to religion

Other Whites (Europeans etc.)

Asians (Indians, Bangladeshi's, etc)

Blacks

That's my 2 cents

The only Jews left alive would be ones who managed to hide their Jewishness.

Muslim Arabs didn't hate Jews until 1948. Anti-semitism was pretty much a European phenomenon until that point.

And lol @ thinking European whites would be below Muslim Arabs and the Japanese.

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Yeah the way they teach WWII in school it's all about England. Nothing about the Africans and Indians who died, nothing about the fact that Russia is the reason the Germans got stopped, nothing about the 25million Russians who died because of Churchill and the lack of compensation they got from the Allies after the war, nothing about the victories that were won by minorities like black soldiers, then covered up to make it look like white european/american soldiers did it.

to be fair when u study History in A-Levels u get taught this...well i did anyway

[Guest Awesome Kong]

The Spitfire >>>>>>> Me bf-109

It's mad how the best engineers in the world were the British & Germans back then.

Research 'Operation Paperclip'

You will see were all the cream of the crop of scum from Nazi Germany went after the war and some avoiding the Nuremberg trials

Engineers?

They were taken in by USA, UK & Russia mostly.

[Fresh]

interesting thread

[Bardissimo]

erm

the teaching of WW2 was anglocentric but most of the stuff you lot said you weren't taught i was (GCSE)

get your attention game up

[Guest Triple XXX]

some of us didnt do GCSE history

[Guest Awesome Kong]

School never really taught the truth about history tbh.

[Yuri]

U think hitler would have rated Arabs and japaneese over other whites?

I know he formed alliances with some Arab groups and with japan as a whole

but once hitler no longer had use for them be certain that he would have turned on them as they didn't fit into his Aryan ideal

Japan would control a larger area than Hitler, he wouldn't have been able to if the USA couldn't have.

lol i agree he wouldn't have been able to

but hitler was off his head with tertiary syhpillis, so he would have tried to chuck a ting eventually

lol this is the same doughnut they try invade russia snm

what does this mean?

firstly, he didn't invade russia, he invaded the sovyet union

second, the german army made it to moscow. if there was no western front it would have been game over for the red army

[Frank.]

Would i be right in thinking that if the japs wernt fending off the yanks in the pacific it would have been lights out for russia?

[Guest Triple XXX]

why isnt Japan allowed to have an army but Germany is?

[Frank.]

they have the japanese self defence forces, there just not allowed to get involved in conflict outside there country i believe, peacekeeping and what not. i may be wrong.

[Guest Awesome Kong]

why isnt Japan allowed to have an army but Germany is?

Yeah, they're not allowed aircraft carriers or anything. PISSED!

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But if they feel really threatened by North Korea then they might decide to build up though.

[jcee]

'Hitler's Stealth Bomber'

The Horten 2-29 was a retro-futuristic fighter that was to be armed with four 30mm cannons and two 500-kilogram (1,100-pound) bombs. A Horten 2-29 prototype made a successful test flight just before Christmas 1944. Thankfully the Nazis were never able to perfect the design or produce more than a handful of prototype planes.

http://www.examiner.com/tv-in-san-francisco/national-geographic-channel-to-air-hitler-s-stealth-bomber

if hitler had a bit more time this would have changed the game,

wonder what other kind of technology he was working on.

National Geographic, could watch their stuff all day

[Frank.]

Madness. That looks lightyears ahead of its time.

Cream of the crop technology/engineers.

Phycotic junkie leaders controlling their armys and airforce. Cant have everything i suppose.

[Guest Awesome Kong]

'Hitler's Stealth Bomber'

The Horten 2-29 was a retro-futuristic fighter that was to be armed with four 30mm cannons and two 500-kilogram (1,100-pound) bombs. A Horten 2-29 prototype made a successful test flight just before Christmas 1944. Thankfully the Nazis were never able to perfect the design or produce more than a handful of prototype planes.

http://www.examiner.com/tv-in-san-francisco/national-geographic-channel-to-air-hitler-s-stealth-bomber

if hitler had a bit more time this would have changed the game,

wonder what other kind of technology he was working on.

National Geographic, could watch their stuff all day

To be fear, both sides would have made advances really. This aircraft was to late, along with the ME Bf-262.

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It would have needed fly by wire, that plane must have been a bitch to fly.

[Guest Awesome Kong]

All the old German aviation companies are pissed, not allowed to make war planes (I'm not sure about commercial though) ever again. BMW are one such company.