Guest Silver Surfer Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 WHATS BETTER FULL BODY ROUTINES OR SPLITS?? OR PUSH/PULLI NEED TO ADD MASS OVER THE SUMMER IM SKINNYI do body part splits, me and my mate are doing decent weights now. So the secondary muscles are gettin worked hard, therefore has an affect on the workout. In otherwords, I used to do back and bicep on the same day, but because my dead lift, seated rows weight is quite heavy my biceps get a decent enough workout even though is secondary.So I do a 4 day splitMon, ChestTues, ShouldersWeds, BackThurs, BicepsI add in triceps on Mons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silver Surfer Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 This whole gym ting is a joke..If i lift weights, i have no muscle definition unless i rest for like 3 days.. But if i'm going gym 3 times a week that sh*t dont work.. so i just look big, but not toned at all..F*ck the gymIm not gettiin what u mean, this makes no sense.You get definition from have a low body fat percentage, a skinny guy with about 10% body fat will have muscle definition, its not about how many times u go gym. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YourFutureStepDaddy Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 My muscle definiation is SICK. I just don't have the sized muscles I'd like.I do:Monday: TorsoWednesday: LegsFriday: Back.Am I working out on Monday too much. Maybe allow my legs and use Monday for Chest and Wednesday for arms and Abs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doughboi Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Can anyone reccommend me a mon/wed/fri split?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savant Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Can anyone reccommend me a mon/wed/fri split??For real. I need a bit of advice there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 You get definition from have a low body fat percentage, a skinny guy with about 10% body fat will have muscle definition, its not about how many times u go gym.lol, its a combination of muscle mass and body fat.. You trying to tell me that ethiopians look cut?Regarding what i said.. Its pretty simple.. If i dont go gym for a couple of days my muscles look more defined.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpe_Deum Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Can anyone reccommend me a mon/wed/fri split??at my gym, attendance has tripled in the past week...some people only started going gym 2 weeks ago cos its getting hot , and wanna look wench for 'the summer'!!. summer is about 8-12 weeks long. so even if you trained amazingly well..you wouldnt get your hench look until just as summer is ending lol. cos thats how long it takes to put on considerable muscle..or lose considerable bodyfat so you get your definition. putting it blunty..its best to train for next summer. genetics could also help..but for most peeps it isnt gonna happen properly just like that. L.. the most probable reason for what u say is wrong is gonna be your diet, or how you train. how you train being form, isolation etc.. split routine:Monday - Chest/TricepsTuesday - offWednesday - Biceps/BackThursday - offFriday - Shoulders/LegsSaturday - offSunday - offyou could mix this around..but the technique is knowing how to seperate the excercises that are compound and secondary movements. working on your chest is gonna involve triceps and shoulders throughout. so you dont need to do 300 exercises on chest bcos its chest day, cos by time you work on the smaller muscles like shoulders/tris..your tired. stick to about 4 chest exercises on any day, 3 for shoulders, and 3 for tris. so lets say there are 12 major chest exercises possible.. week 1..choose 4 (of which all should hit the 3 main areas of ur chest) stick with this for 2 weeks, then choose another 4 for 2 weeks..and so on. i prefer to work bis and tris together..so if i did that split above i would leave out triceps on monday..and do them on wed. legs are big muscles so i would also do legs for 80% of whatever day i work on them..leaving the rest 20% for something light..like traps or high reps. in mixing the split around..you could make the triceps the focus and train them heavy..and lighter chest. mixing around is needed cos ur body will just get used to your routine and then u get the "i dont seem to grow anymore even though i been training hard" scenario. alot of pple seem hooked on benches too.. i pointed this out to one breh who could do 80kg on benchpress, but i said he woudlnt manage 60kg (30x2) on barbell presses..and he didnt. barbells work ur tris more and dont let u cheat like u can on a bar. so focus more on barbells. u also need to check out the "get cut with glass" workout series on bodybuilding.com it was posted here. his shoulder isolation routine is sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doughboi Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Can anyone reccommend me a mon/wed/fri split??at my gym, attendance has tripled in the past week...some people only started going gym 2 weeks ago cos its getting hot , and wanna look wench for 'the summer'!!. summer is about 8-12 weeks long. so even if you trained amazingly well..you wouldnt get your hench look until just as summer is ending lol. cos thats how long it takes to put on considerable muscle..or lose considerable bodyfat so you get your definition. putting it blunty..its best to train for next summer. genetics could also help..but for most peeps it isnt gonna happen properly just like that. L.. the most probable reason for what u say is wrong is gonna be your diet, or how you train. how you train being form, isolation etc.. split routine:Monday - Chest/TricepsTuesday - offWednesday - Biceps/BackThursday - offFriday - Shoulders/LegsSaturday - offSunday - offyou could mix this around..but the technique is knowing how to seperate the excercises that are compound and secondary movements. working on your chest is gonna involve triceps and shoulders throughout. so you dont need to do 300 exercises on chest bcos its chest day, cos by time you work on the smaller muscles like shoulders/tris..your tired. stick to about 4 chest exercises on any day, 3 for shoulders, and 3 for tris. so lets say there are 12 major chest exercises possible.. week 1..choose 4 (of which all should hit the 3 main areas of ur chest) stick with this for 2 weeks, then choose another 4 for 2 weeks..and so on. i prefer to work bis and tris together..so if i did that split above i would leave out triceps on monday..and do them on wed. legs are big muscles so i would also do legs for 80% of whatever day i work on them..leaving the rest 20% for something light..like traps or high reps. in mixing the split around..you could make the triceps the focus and train them heavy..and lighter chest. mixing around is needed cos ur body will just get used to your routine and then u get the "i dont seem to grow anymore even though i been training hard" scenario. alot of pple seem hooked on benches too.. i pointed this out to one breh who could do 80kg on benchpress, but i said he woudlnt manage 60kg (30x2) on barbell presses..and he didnt. barbells work ur tris more and dont let u cheat like u can on a bar. so focus more on barbells. u also need to check out the "get cut with glass" workout series on bodybuilding.com it was posted here. his shoulder isolation routine is sick.Safe for that.btw im not looking to impress this summer tho, i've been working out for 5 months seriously, just wanted to start a new routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbmc Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I've started doing this thing, i think it's called supersetting, where after i've finished my routine, after the last 6 reps i take most of the weights off quick and do another 10 reps with no rest....geez i did it on the rows and thought i was gonna puke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doughboi Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I've started doing this thing, i think it's called supersetting, where after i've finished my routine, after the last 6 reps i take most of the weights off quick and do another 10 reps with no rest....geez i did it on the rows and thought i was gonna puke!lol supersets are sick for pumps.I incline dumbbell presses, straight after that I banged out dumbbel flies till failure.I felt like a tank for 1 hour, my chest was pumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savant Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Can anyone reccommend me a mon/wed/fri split??at my gym, attendance has tripled in the past week...some people only started going gym 2 weeks ago cos its getting hot , and wanna look wench for 'the summer'!!. summer is about 8-12 weeks long. so even if you trained amazingly well..you wouldnt get your hench look until just as summer is ending lol. cos thats how long it takes to put on considerable muscle..or lose considerable bodyfat so you get your definition. putting it blunty..its best to train for next summer. genetics could also help..but for most peeps it isnt gonna happen properly just like that. L.. the most probable reason for what u say is wrong is gonna be your diet, or how you train. how you train being form, isolation etc.. split routine:Monday - Chest/TricepsTuesday - offWednesday - Biceps/BackThursday - offFriday - Shoulders/LegsSaturday - offSunday - offyou could mix this around..but the technique is knowing how to seperate the excercises that are compound and secondary movements. working on your chest is gonna involve triceps and shoulders throughout. so you dont need to do 300 exercises on chest bcos its chest day, cos by time you work on the smaller muscles like shoulders/tris..your tired. stick to about 4 chest exercises on any day, 3 for shoulders, and 3 for tris. so lets say there are 12 major chest exercises possible.. week 1..choose 4 (of which all should hit the 3 main areas of ur chest) stick with this for 2 weeks, then choose another 4 for 2 weeks..and so on. i prefer to work bis and tris together..so if i did that split above i would leave out triceps on monday..and do them on wed. legs are big muscles so i would also do legs for 80% of whatever day i work on them..leaving the rest 20% for something light..like traps or high reps. in mixing the split around..you could make the triceps the focus and train them heavy..and lighter chest. mixing around is needed cos ur body will just get used to your routine and then u get the "i dont seem to grow anymore even though i been training hard" scenario. alot of pple seem hooked on benches too.. i pointed this out to one breh who could do 80kg on benchpress, but i said he woudlnt manage 60kg (30x2) on barbell presses..and he didnt. barbells work ur tris more and dont let u cheat like u can on a bar. so focus more on barbells. u also need to check out the "get cut with glass" workout series on bodybuilding.com it was posted here. his shoulder isolation routine is sick.Safe.I needed some guidance I'm in gym just doing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silver Surfer Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 You get definition from have a low body fat percentage, a skinny guy with about 10% body fat will have muscle definition, its not about how many times u go gym.lol, its a combination of muscle mass and body fat.. You trying to tell me that ethiopians look cut?Regarding what i said.. Its pretty simple.. If i dont go gym for a couple of days my muscles look more defined..Less body fat = being more cut, hence steriods and cuttin diets. Ethipians just have skin and bones lol, Im talking about the average person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFCCHAMPS2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Ok so ive just got some weights in my garage, got a diet and routine sorted out.But i dont know what exercise to pick, i looked on websites and theres loads for each muscle.How do i decide what to pick and whats best to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doughboi Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Ok so ive just got some weights in my garage, got a diet and routine sorted out.But i dont know what exercise to pick, i looked on websites and theres loads for each muscle.How do i decide what to pick and whats best to do.Chest:Dumbbell/Barbell pressDipsPushup variationBiceps:Chin upsHammer curlTriceps:DipsSkullcrusherLeg:Dumbbell squatLungesOne legged squatBack:PullupDumbbell rowStiff legged deadliftShoulders:Any type of overhead press e.g. standing dumbbell military pressSide raisesLateral raisesThats all you need to build a strong foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbmc Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Ok so ive just got some weights in my garage, got a diet and routine sorted out.But i dont know what exercise to pick, i looked on websites and theres loads for each muscle.How do i decide what to pick and whats best to do.Chest:Dumbbell/Barbell pressDipsPushup variationBiceps:Chin upsHammer curlTriceps:DipsSkullcrusherLeg:Dumbbell squatLungesOne legged squatBack:PullupDumbbell rowStiff legged deadliftShoulders:Any type of overhead press e.g. standing dumbbell military pressSide raisesLateral raisesThats all you need to build a strong foundation.Them getting cut with Glass vids u posted were sick! anyone that wants to know different exercises and how to do them properley should watch them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doughboi Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Milos Sarcev chest training:http://thefitshow.com/week3/milos_chest_med.htmLeg training:http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/fitshow47.htmBicep training:http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/fitshow32.htmMore getting cut with glass videos:http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/glasscut.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YourFutureStepDaddy Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 That chest training is nuts.His benches were PERFECT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFCCHAMPS2007 Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I went on that bodybuliding website and they talking bout gettin hench as hell.I dun wanna get hench as hell tho, walking like a statue n sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YourFutureStepDaddy Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I'm excited to go tomorrow now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doughboi Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/GymPowerLifter/sheez.only 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YourFutureStepDaddy Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 A lot of my joints click.Would this be a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpe_Deum Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 click how.. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YourFutureStepDaddy Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 click how.. lol.Like yesterday I done the Arnold Press manouvre with no weights.Just the move and the bones in my shoulder were clicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M12 Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 click how.. lol.Like yesterday I done the Arnold Press manouvre with no weights.Just the move and the bones in my shoulder were clicking.cod liver oil + calcium supplement?if theres no pain though allow it. if it dont hurt it aint a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFCCHAMPS2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Ok ive got some golds gym dumbells and weights but i need some more weight plates.Will they have to be golds gyms weights of will any make fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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