Tbf I genuinely thought that the London House scene was doing bits until I got to Ibiza.
Ibiza is forever changing, I mean 10 years ago it was probably groove armada and shapeshifters, and look where it is now.
I know a few of these man (London house DJ’s)had a few small events over there and I heard they pretty much all bombed. So it’s not like Ibiza didn’t give these man a chance, it’s that nobody out there was really interested in their music.
Now you look at Amine & Edge Dance and their G-House, these man regardless of how poor I thought they were when I saw them. Had a contract and their own night at Sankeys, furthermore they then went on to do Pacha for closing. So ibiza is accepting of different styles aslong as the people demand it.
Ibiza isn’t the be all and end all but you’d say it’s a melting pot for the house heads in the UK. So you can atleast get a feel if it's what the majority are feeling or the minority.
This is a part of the problem. How can an overpriced Spanish resort island full of beautiful sheeple be the hub of a UK sound?
Makes no sense. And imitating Ibiza isn't helping us either. Cool, UKG had satellite hubs in Napa/Faliraki/Zante/Malia etc, but the sound had a home on UK soil.
You are right that Ibiza is dynamic. But really and truly the top ranking Ibiza guys are the shit mainroom trance/dance acts and the long-running residents. A lot of Ibiza DJs are technically shit, but they play to fawning crowds all day so who can tell them different.
That style of house has a hub, it’s London and that’s the point. It’s very successful in London, and in some parts down south. As a whole though it’s not. I was speaking to some people from Manchester who told me Arun Verone was getting booed when he played a set there. I know Manchester really isn’t on the audio whore / house of silk type of house music.
Funnily enough I was talking to my friends a few days ago and I was referring to how similar bassline is to that wave of house (bassline before it got very commercialised) . And the same places who loved bassline up north, are the same ones loving off Arun Verone, Lance Morgan and all those guys.
All those DJ's you named are Pacha guys, that's like saying Birmingham is dead because you went to Gatecrasher.
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if you are talking uk producers on a whole, this is complete fraff.
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This is the straight truth.
Funky and dubstep were way more innovative sounds than this stuff. Even UKG and Jungle.
I hate to say it but real scenes need community hubs. Look at UKG, you had a fledgling internet backbone by the late '90s/early '00s, in addition to the record shops, the pirates and the 'core' raves; the forums, DC++ etc. Grime had that support, so did Dubstep. I don't see that with house. It's too 'international' to feel like 'our sound' and therefore our producers never really have space to innovate.
I never considered house to be something new and therefore never got extra gassed about it - but I can see why it grew. Just felt a bit forced - Rinse ramming out their slots with house DJs and kicking popular shows off air, etc.
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The end bit he wrote is facts.
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Tbf I genuinely thought that the London House scene was doing bits until I got to Ibiza.
Ibiza is forever changing, I mean 10 years ago it was probably groove armada and shapeshifters, and look where it is now.
I know a few of these man (London house DJ’s)had a few small events over there and I heard they pretty much all bombed. So it’s not like Ibiza didn’t give these man a chance, it’s that nobody out there was really interested in their music.
Now you look at Amine & Edge Dance and their G-House, these man regardless of how poor I thought they were when I saw them. Had a contract and their own night at Sankeys, furthermore they then went on to do Pacha for closing. So ibiza is accepting of different styles aslong as the people demand it.
Ibiza isn’t the be all and end all but you’d say it’s a melting pot for the house heads in the UK. So you can atleast get a feel if it's what the majority are feeling or the minority.
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This is a part of the problem. How can an overpriced Spanish resort island full of beautiful sheeple be the hub of a UK sound?
Makes no sense. And imitating Ibiza isn't helping us either. Cool, UKG had satellite hubs in Napa/Faliraki/Zante/Malia etc, but the sound had a home on UK soil.
You are right that Ibiza is dynamic. But really and truly the top ranking Ibiza guys are the shit mainroom trance/dance acts and the long-running residents. A lot of Ibiza DJs are technically shit, but they play to fawning crowds all day so who can tell them different.
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Elementalism writes so much, people cba to read it, so they just pos him because they are (ironically) sheeple.
Please elaborate on what you mean when you say "A lot of Ibiza DJs are technically shit" then name names, then show me better and why.
Cos to me it just seems like you're passing your own ignorant opinion off as fact.
The kinda dude that I never let fly in real life.
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Tiesto, Armin Van Buuren, the prog house stuff. There is better selection and mixing on Rinse.
Stop talking to the forum like you have an audience. You say I'm ignorant, yet you can't be arsed to read 3 lines of text. Does that really compute for you?
Ed: The UK has always been a much more diverse melting pot for electronic music than the continent. Even if the 'hardcore continuum' theory isn't bang on, it highlights the diversity of the UK sound. To put it short, the UK is levels above continental Europe, and our underground scene is much richer.
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