The Spurs Thread

[Rsonist]

I'm done sticking up for Jenas or Zokora anymore.We need to buy a new midfield.

[Lenny Jr.]

Glad you've seen the light Tanner

[Rsonist]

Its Tottenham mate. Dont forget about what we went through in 1997, 1998, 2002, 2003, this is nothing compared to that yet.Dont let them get to you. Its typical, i'm not surprised at all by any of this.Although i thought we coulda been good this season, obviously not, i'd be DELIGHTED if we get 6th now.

[Benicio del Toney]

You have Huddlestone but are too scared to start him.The Irony is he wont ever be ready if you dont start him.The problem spurs have is that Zakora is absolute PIE, lmfao @ you lot thinking he could ever replace Carrick.For Everton's 3rd yesterday I see Stubbs take the freekick and Zakora move OUT the way like he was scared and put 1 of them pansy legs out which every defender knows kills your keeper.Also is Kaboul injured??if not why wasnt he playing last night?Spurs as always aint too far off a very good team, but like its been said before, Jol aint top 4 material, he aint a winner, he aint the man to take you to the next level.

[Rsonist]

I'm not even gonna blame the players last night, I'm putting it all on Martin Jol. okay fine, you can't help all 3 left-backs getting injured. you also can't help your 3 best central defenders being injured either.But he's to blame for only having one winger and 27 central midfielders. that Zokora/Jenas partnership doesn't work, and never will work.

[Rsonist]

Alot of the blame goes on Jol's head for last night.Although i'm not condoning Stalteri's and Gardner's shitness, he has made blinding errors in the last 2 games.Such a pity i was a mug and actually bought my tickets for Derby and Man Utd.We will be lucky to draw with Derby and the way things are going Man Utd will beat us 7-0.

[GoldCoast]

they lost....AGAIN???LMAOOOOOO

[Rsonist]

Biggest mistake was shotin carrick.. These manz thought they capitalized.. But the team as hit rock buttom since then..

How the f*ck did we hit rock bottom without Carrick you inept mug?!We were better last season than the season before where we had Carrick.What a f*ckin dumb statement.Clearly you started watching football 2 years ago and cant remember Tottenham before 2005, if you think 5th is "rock bottom"..............lmao.

[Guest M12]

Biggest mistake was shotin carrick.. These manz thought they capitalized.. But the team as hit rock buttom since then..

How the f*ck did we hit rock bottom without Carrick you inept mug?!We were better last season than the season before where we had Carrick.What a f*ckin dumb statement.Clearly you started watching football 2 years ago and cant remember Tottenham before 2005, if you think 5th is "rock bottom"..............lmao.

LMFAO when i checked the table blad you weren't 5th.you're supposed to have 6 points right about now. or at VERY least 4. you have 0.

[Tom]

Why didn't Tottenham shot Gardner when they had the chance.

[Rsonist]

Biggest mistake was shotin carrick.. These manz thought they capitalized.. But the team as hit rock buttom since then..

How the f*ck did we hit rock bottom without Carrick you inept mug?!We were better last season than the season before where we had Carrick.What a f*ckin dumb statement.Clearly you started watching football 2 years ago and cant remember Tottenham before 2005, if you think 5th is "rock bottom"..............lmao.

LMFAO when i checked the table blad you weren't 5th.you're supposed to have 6 points right about now. or at VERY least 4. you have 0.

Read again.He said when we sold Carrick we hit rock bottom.So finishing 5th for the 2nd time in a row, reaching a semi final and 2 quarter finals of each cup, thats rock bottom.Seen.....

[Mr Invincible 49]

a shocking start to the season...i cant see this run continuing for long but it is funny as hell.i hope this run continues.by the time spurs play and lose to us (6th game of the season). i can see them only having 4(6 at best) points out of a possible 18. not a good look at all....

[Mr Invincible 49]

Alot of the blame goes on Jol's head for last night.Although i'm not condoning Stalteri's and Gardner's shitness, he has made blinding errors in the last 2 games.Such a pity i was a mug and actually bought my tickets for Derby and Man Utd.We will be lucky to draw with Derby and the way things are going Man Utd will beat us 7-0.

at last you are starting to see your team in the same light as the rest of the premiership

[DRC]

I feel for spurs, one of them team that has pure potential but just can't seem to get anywhere. Thought this season was their time but its only early days

Also is Kaboul injured??if not why wasnt he playing last night?

Came off after about 20mins

[Dizzle]

"What do we think of Tottenham?sh*tWhat do we think of sh*t?Tottenham"

[Rsonist]

Alot of the blame goes on Jol's head for last night.Although i'm not condoning Stalteri's and Gardner's shitness, he has made blinding errors in the last 2 games.Such a pity i was a mug and actually bought my tickets for Derby and Man Utd.We will be lucky to draw with Derby and the way things are going Man Utd will beat us 7-0.

at last you are starting to see your team in the same light as the rest of the premiership

The rest of the premiership minus arsenal fans thought we would have a great season this year round, so i dont know what you are on about with that comment....

[Benicio del Toney]

I feel for spurs, one of them team that has pure potential but just can't seem to get anywhere. Thought this season was their time but its only early days

Also is Kaboul injured??if not why wasnt he playing last night?

Came off after about 20mins

Ah pissed, I was cooking for the 1st part of the match still lol

[Rsonist]

Kaboul has been the only positive to take out of the first 2 games. Typical he gets injured.

[Dizzle]

Where's KP Boeteng?To losses already is not a good look, will HAVE to take points off some of the big boys to stand a chance of CL football.

[OGSTA1]

FAO of Robinson... Berbatov is not Mido. Stop punting the ball up to Berbs for flick on's cos his aerial strength isn't that great and he's geetin battered competing with goons such as Stubbs and Mcshane.Keane should be dropped.ALSOI've been amazed by the universal agreement that Defoe is our 4th choice STRIKER...totally disregarded cos we brought Bent..its so wrong.BERBATOV>>>>DEFOE>>>>.KEANE/BENT.

[Rsonist]

Where's KP Boeteng?To losses already is not a good look, will HAVE to take points off some of the big boys to stand a chance of CL football.

Did you say champions league............loooooooool!

[Rsonist]

FAO of Robinson... Berbatov is not Mido. Stop punting the ball up to Berbs for flick on's cos his aerial strength isn't that great and he's geetin battered competing with goons such as Stubbs and Mcshane.Keane should be dropped.ALSOI've been amazed by the universal agreement that Defoe is our 4th choice STRIKER...totally disregarded cos we brought Bent..its so wrong.BERBATOV>>>>DEFOE>>>>.KEANE/BENT.

Keane is not a right sided midfielder.No chance in hell is Keane better than that little c*nt Defoe.llow them comments.

[Guest Its Me Bitches]

next game spurs need to startAnwickHuddlestoneRochaDefoeBentJenasTaarabtBoatengThese guys area MUSTdrop Berbatov he was soo sh*t yesterday i was in msn convo telling them man hes pie when you were still in the game, keane needs to get dropped hes always better after being dropped what was hapening yesterday was you were getting theball in defence giving it to janeas who was bringing into the other hald then giving it to zakora or keane who were then baffed at what to do next

[Rsonist]

If Berbatov gets dropped thats him away before September.Its not his fault he is surrounded by uncreative sh*t, he was one of the few actually trying last night. Robbo is still one of the best shot stoppers in the league, but has no command of his area anymore.We need new coaches in to teach the players how to defend set pieces.If Taarabt dont start and Stalteri plays against Derby i will request a refund for the travel and tickets i have spent over the last week from Tottenham

[Rsonist]

Following last night`s debacle the spotlight has been firmly placed on Martin Jol`s tenure and the debate will continue and claims and counter claims will be made. It is times such as these that the facts should be remembered so that a balanced argument can ensue.First of all, here are the main players that Jol inherited when he took over in November 2004 (and who he has been coaching since June 2004):Paul RobinsonLedley KingRobbie KeaneJermain DefoeCalum Davenport Sean Davis Michael Carrick Frederic KanoutePedro MendesNoe PamarotThimothee AtoubaAnthony GardnerNoureddine NaybetMichael BrownOut of the players that Jol inherited, six of them played regularly in the season we got our first 5th place and 5 of them for last season.The players that have come into the Club under Jol's management and whom he personally sanctioned are as follows:Hossam Ghaly Danny Murphy Grzegorz Rasiak Jermaine Jenas Lee Young-Pyo Edgar Davids Wayne Routledge Aaron Lennon Paul Stalteri Tom Huddlestone Teemu Tainio Gareth Bale Ricardo Rocha Adel Taarabt Ben Alnwick Pascal Chimbonda Steed Malbranque Mido Dorian Dervite Tomas Pekhart Dimitar Berbatov Didier Zokora Benoit Assou-EkottoKevin-Prince Boateng Danny Rose Younes Kaboul Darren Bent The Board of Directors has backed Jol more than any other Tottenham Manager/Head Coach ever and his gross spending is in excess of £100 million and is second only to Chelski. The "net" spending of the Club has nothing to do with Jol - the players he deems as surplus are then traded by Daniel Levy. Also, he inherited a valuable squad and not least was Carrick of whom we made a profit of £15 million.Much has been said about Jol being our best Manager since the PL started. Here are his contenders:Doug Livermore / Ray Clemence Osvaldo Ardiles Gerry FrancisChristian Gross George Graham Glenn Hoddle David Pleat (Caretaker) Jacques Santini Finally, Jol has been in charge of 137 matches in which 64 have been won, 33 have been drawn and 40 lost.I hope that I have not missed out any players and I am sure that you will correct me if I have. Those are the facts so is he worth the money we have invested under his management? 50% of the regulars for last 3 seasons were already at the Club so has the money been well spent by Jol considering that we still do not have a LW/LM or a play making CM?I have been giving him the benefit of the doubt but I am afraid that the facts speak for themselves in that he has been given unprecedented financial backing and yet 3 years on we still have no balance in the team, no logical team selection, no leadership and his comments that the players are arguing amongst themselves indicates that he has lost the dressing room.Please don't forget that Hoddle had 2 full seasons and at the start of his third season he had 4 points from first 6 games and he was history. (Something that is very likely now to happen with Tottenham, considering the next run of games) Levy is not the type to panic but he also has a duty to the Club and he will act accordingly. After last night's shambles I have a feeling that it will be sooner rather than later.