Neo Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 FAO i break ankleswhy do you want so bad to prove you're right ?It's what everyone wants.No point in arguing if you arent trying to prove your right....*steps back*pointless to prove you're right when talking to someone knowing they won't change their minds as religious will stay religious and atheist will stay atheistdo you honestly think vip2 will change someone's belief's, whether he does or doesnt believe in religions ?the whole concept of this thread is stupid (yet i'm taking part in it lol)I dont think a sharing/debate abot peopels views is stupid, noone is beign disrespectful really so its cool.He USED to be religious, so obviously people can change, similarly I know people that WERENT religios, but then became.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernova Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 RaaaahReligion is not my thingI have a bedrin that wud be bang onto thisI am not into following what an ancient book readsWhat reason do i have to believe it... the mass amounts of others follwing itThere is a mass amount of people commiting suicide but I dont see the logicalI am not into asking a guy which could possibly be conjured up by some other randoms for anythig in lifeI work for Kakashi and I follow Kakashis ideasAs for satanismI beg some of u people dosome flippniing researchSatanism is not evilIts alternative................Personally I believe in revenge and looking after myself....IF someone is gunna hit me....why would I ever turn the other cheekhit them back to rasssssbeg u do some further research rudeboyim not talking about goths who listen to marilyn mansonSatanic biblein a couple of nutshells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORA BATTY Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 We are just animals..We fullfill a role within this ecosystem as do mice, worms, spiders etc..Because we can speak etc I do not see it as making us any different....Boy, if Mice have the same after life fate as us, then thats cool... u wont go hell cos u dont follow the bible or quoran or torahall have elements of truth in themthe main thing is to follow your heart and to know theres a creator etcthen u go heavenHate to stop you right there buddy.BUT Evangelists and even the Bible say the only path to heaven is by Jesus Christ.Even though Muslims regard Jesus as a prophet Christians believe they will go to hell for not accepting him as their Messiah.hate to tell you buddy but thats just your belief. Each religion says the way to heaven is through their own way.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 you never know which religion is right, which is why i refuse to commit myself to one, its a parall i know is there's a high powercos all this couldnt have just come out of know whereor a "big bang" wtfin a sense i guess everybody needs something to believe ini guess i'll be chillin in the clouds looking down on you athiests in hell*walks da f*ck out the thread* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORA BATTY Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 e are just animals..We fullfill a role within this ecosystem as do mice, worms, spiders etc..Because we can speak etc I do not see it as making us any different....Boy, if Mice have the same after life fate as us, then thats cool...nope. wrong. we are not just animals we are far different to animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 e are just animals..We fullfill a role within this ecosystem as do mice, worms, spiders etc..Because we can speak etc I do not see it as making us any different....Boy, if Mice have the same after life fate as us, then thats cool...nope. wrong. we are not just animals we are far different to animals.Dissapointing you chose to pick up on that one thing and ignore the rest.I said that very simply, of course we are not ANIMALS.ORGANISMS then, if you choose to be pedantic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopa Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 definition of an animal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopa Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animalif you're not an animal what are you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 "Animals are a major group of organisms, classified as the kingdom Animalia or Metazoa. In general they are multiÂÂcellular, responsive to their environment, and feed by consuming other organisms or parts of them. ..."I assume she read animals as us being BASE and without reason, emotion or complex thought process.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORA BATTY Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 e are just animals..We fullfill a role within this ecosystem as do mice, worms, spiders etc..Because we can speak etc I do not see it as making us any different....Boy, if Mice have the same after life fate as us, then thats cool...nope. wrong. we are not just animals we are far different to animals.Dissapointing you chose to pick up on that one thing and ignore the rest.I said that very simply, of course we are not ANIMALS.ORGANISMS then, if you choose to be pedantic...funny how you spoke too soon its not like i can reply to every one of the points all in one go.you said what you said and my point is we ARE different to animals. animals are not capable of more than first order intentionality for one thing. A crucial difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 e are just animals..We fullfill a role within this ecosystem as do mice, worms, spiders etc..Because we can speak etc I do not see it as making us any different....Boy, if Mice have the same after life fate as us, then thats cool...nope. wrong. we are not just animals we are far different to animals.Dissapointing you chose to pick up on that one thing and ignore the rest.I said that very simply, of course we are not ANIMALS.ORGANISMS then, if you choose to be pedantic...funny how you spoke too soon its not like i can reply to every one of the points all in one go.you said what you said and my point is we ARE different to animals. animals are not capable of more than first order intentionality for one thing. A crucial difference.I did not speak too soon..We ARE animals though, it is a fact.Mamals are a group of animals.If you assumed I meant we are dogs, then well you were wrong.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopa Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 how can we be different to a group we belong in ?animal = scientific defintion men are part of the animal kingdomhumans are the only animals capable having high level of thought and cognitionmaybe that's semantics, but it's important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_Break_Ankles Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 you never know which religion is right, which is why i refuse to commit myself to one, its a parall i know is there's a high powercos all this couldnt have just come out of know whereor a "big bang" wtfin a sense i guess everybody needs something to believe ini guess i'll be chillin in the clouds looking down on you athiests in hell*walks da f*ck out the thread*I agree with you there actually.I don't know sh*t about no big bang or evolution though tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORA BATTY Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 humans are the only animals capable having high level of thought and cognitionmaybe that's semantics, but it's importantin what sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 humans are the only animals capable having high level of thought and cognitionmaybe that's semantics, but it's importantin what sense?In the fact that we are animals, but that is what differentiates us from most others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopa Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 in a scientific sensethat's how you make the difference between an animal and a treewhen you make cognitive tests, a dog can't do themso far human beings are the only animals capable of high level of thought and cognition, just look around yourself what men have made : civlisation, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 in a scientific sensethat's how you make the difference between an animal and a treewhen you make cognitive tests, a dog can't do themso far human beings are the only animals capable of high level of thought and cognition, just look around yourself what men have made : civlisation, etc.Technically, primates have been shown to possess cognitive thougt patterns..all members of the Homo group could...no homo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopa Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 not as advanced as men's though that's why i said high level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORA BATTY Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 primates cannot possess more higher order thought. that's how you make the difference between an animal and a treewhen you make cognitive tests, a dog can't do themso far human beings are the only animals capable of high level of thought and cognition, just look around yourself what men have made : civlisation, etc.so what? ants build their nests, etc you dont need high level thought for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 The heart is treacherous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopa Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 i knew someone was going to say things about ants loli don't think ants can be compared to humans because humans are the only animals capable of abstraction for example and plus humans have much more "mental" skills than other animalsso yes ants are in a way "intelligent" but define intelligence ?*lol @ me asking questions like i'm teaching philosophy* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Social Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 RaaaahReligion is not my thingI have a bedrin that wud be bang onto thisI am not into following what an ancient book readsWhat reason do i have to believe it... the mass amounts of others follwing itThere is a mass amount of people commiting suicide but I dont see the logicalI am not into asking a guy which could possibly be conjured up by some other randoms for anythig in lifeI work for Kakashi and I follow Kakashis ideasAs for satanismI beg some of u people dosome flippniing researchSatanism is not evilIts alternative................Personally I believe in revenge and looking after myself....IF someone is gunna hit me....why would I ever turn the other cheekhit them back to rasssssbeg u do some further research rudeboyim not talking about goths who listen to marilyn mansonlol @ beleiving in revenge, come like its a way of life@ Social, its very very very very very extreme to call anyone a satanist/evil.As I said before, I do not know of anyone that is evil, not in relation to God anyway..Obviously by in relation I do not mean that God is evil, I mean in speaking from the pov that god exists.Infact, even maybe from that he doesnt.well call me an extremist,i also call free prostitutes whores i know thats un pc in satans new worldyr letting modern day tabloid connotations of the word or concept of satanism cloud the fact that wat these man are preaching/practising is satanic,sorry if u dont like the word evil doesnt necesarily have to manifest itself in conscious attacks on the ark of covenant,sum1 can even carry out evil just by being lazy or ignoring something,its all doing the devils worki dunno jayz probly told iba that if he prayed to the devil he wud get a basketball sponsorship or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORA BATTY Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 well call me an extremist,i also call free prostitutes whores i know thats un pc in satans new worldyr letting modern day tabloid connotations of the word or concept of satanism cloud the fact that wat these man are preaching/practising is satanic,sorry if u dont like the word evil doesnt necesarily have to manifest itself in conscious attacks on the ark of covenant,sum1 can even carry out evil just by being lazy or ignoring something,its all doing the devils worki dunno jayz probly told iba that if he prayed to the devil he wud get a basketball sponsorship or somethingyou might be defending your religion but fact is you dont know all the answers anyway.so if you dont know dont try to act like you know thats all im saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_Break_Ankles Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 RaaaahReligion is not my thingI have a bedrin that wud be bang onto thisI am not into following what an ancient book readsWhat reason do i have to believe it... the mass amounts of others follwing itThere is a mass amount of people commiting suicide but I dont see the logicalI am not into asking a guy which could possibly be conjured up by some other randoms for anythig in lifeI work for Kakashi and I follow Kakashis ideasAs for satanismI beg some of u people dosome flippniing researchSatanism is not evilIts alternative................Personally I believe in revenge and looking after myself....IF someone is gunna hit me....why would I ever turn the other cheekhit them back to rasssssbeg u do some further research rudeboyim not talking about goths who listen to marilyn mansonlol @ beleiving in revenge, come like its a way of life@ Social, its very very very very very extreme to call anyone a satanist/evil.As I said before, I do not know of anyone that is evil, not in relation to God anyway..Obviously by in relation I do not mean that God is evil, I mean in speaking from the pov that god exists.Infact, even maybe from that he doesnt.well call me an extremist,i also call free prostitutes whores i know thats un pc in satans new worldyr letting modern day tabloid connotations of the word or concept of satanism cloud the fact that wat these man are preaching/practising is satanic,sorry if u dont like the word evil doesnt necesarily have to manifest itself in conscious attacks on the ark of covenant,sum1 can even carry out evil just by being lazy or ignoring something,its all doing the devils worki dunno jayz probly told iba that if he prayed to the devil he wud get a basketball sponsorship or something LOL I actually laughed at that But seriously though, didn't know I offended you so much to be amking such statements. Guess I really got to you EHH?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 primates cannot possess more higher order thought.that's how you make the difference between an animal and a treewhen you make cognitive tests, a dog can't do themso far human beings are the only animals capable of high level of thought and cognition, just look around yourself what men have made : civlisation, etc.so what? ants build their nests, etc you dont need high level thought for that.Primates have concious intellectual activity. End of really.. RaaaahReligion is not my thingI have a bedrin that wud be bang onto thisI am not into following what an ancient book readsWhat reason do i have to believe it... the mass amounts of others follwing itThere is a mass amount of people commiting suicide but I dont see the logicalI am not into asking a guy which could possibly be conjured up by some other randoms for anythig in lifeI work for Kakashi and I follow Kakashis ideasAs for satanismI beg some of u people dosome flippniing researchSatanism is not evilIts alternative................Personally I believe in revenge and looking after myself....IF someone is gunna hit me....why would I ever turn the other cheekhit them back to rasssssbeg u do some further research rudeboyim not talking about goths who listen to marilyn mansonlol @ beleiving in revenge, come like its a way of life@ Social, its very very very very very extreme to call anyone a satanist/evil.As I said before, I do not know of anyone that is evil, not in relation to God anyway..Obviously by in relation I do not mean that God is evil, I mean in speaking from the pov that god exists.Infact, even maybe from that he doesnt.well call me an extremist,i also call free prostitutes whores i know thats un pc in satans new worldyr letting modern day tabloid connotations of the word or concept of satanism cloud the fact that wat these man are preaching/practising is satanic,sorry if u dont like the word evil doesnt necesarily have to manifest itself in conscious attacks on the ark of covenant,sum1 can even carry out evil just by being lazy or ignoring something,its all doing the devils worki dunno jayz probly told iba that if he prayed to the devil he wud get a basketball sponsorship or somethingI disagree with you there (althoguh i regard whoreish behaviour as one of the worst things you can do, and the lax attitude towarsd it disgusts me greatly but meh)Evil is too strong a word.to me evil is absolute knowledge of what you do & the knowledge that it is wrong etc..I think an evil person is an oxymoron in itself.I dont think beingn against religion is bad, being against what is GOOD can be classed as bad I think thoughTake God as Good and the devil as bad if you will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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