Capricious Beats Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Anybody else agree with me on this one.Barry ain't anywhere near good enough to play for Liverpool, Not as good as Masch, Alonso in the holding role or Babel on the left wing.Hleb is nowhere good enough to start ahead of Messi or Iniesta or Ron if he stays.Ade shouldnt start ahead of Bojan or Henry or Eto'o if he stays.Hargreaves was never technically a good enough player to sign for United.But because they are English or play for big clubs they are over hyped and make the move.Any Championship player >>> Steve Sidwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Turnover Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 A bit extreme, but I see your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBK Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 It's not media hype. It's player hype. They gethyped over the thought of plasying for a team they shouldn't realistically get at.Happened pure times with Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacoste Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Anybody else agree with me on this one.Barry ain't anywhere near good enough to play for Liverpool, Not as good as Masch, Alonso in the holding role or Babel on the left wing.Hleb is nowhere good enough to start ahead of Messi or Iniesta or Ron if he stays.Ade shouldnt start ahead of Bojan or Henry or Eto'o if he stays.Hargreaves was never technically a good enough player to sign for United.But because they are English or play for big clubs they are over hyped and make the move.Any Championship player >>> Steve SidwellSMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricious Beats Posted June 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Wake up, yeah.He is a defensive midfielder, yeah. Can he tackle. No. Just gives pure fouls away, yeah.Has he got a sick range of passing. No.Does he chip in with goals. No.So what does he actually do? yeah. Run about and pester the opposition. Thats it, yeah.Technically he is any footballer, yeah. Nobody that should be playing for the best team in Europe, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBK Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 He is a water carrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Barry is better than Alonso thoughIts a typical football manager/pro evo talkXabi has played consistently sh*t for 2 yearsBarry has played well in 3 seasonsyou do the mathsthis isn't football manager its a real game where you build a machine Barry is a screw thats missing while Xabi is a boltsimple things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HangTheDJ Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Barry is a better Premier League player than Alonso.Barry is a better partner for Gerrard than Alonso.Barry is better in a withdrawn role in a 3/5 man midfield than Alonso.Barry is better on the left side of a defensive two than Alonso.It's all about partnerships and Liverpool will improve vastly with Barry in their team rather than Alonso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HangTheDJ Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Actually what you're saying is complete bullshit actually.You're saying that the media influenced Ferguson to sign Hargreaves, Rafa to try and sign Barry, MON to sign Sidwell and Guardiola to sign Hleb?Theres so much more to football than technical ability.It's about building a team, and if one of the components of the team isn't pulling his weight, longs for a move, or just doesn't click well enough with their players then it's time to move them on, it's that simple.About the newspapers are telling these great tacticians who to sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricious Beats Posted June 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Nah I meant Sidwell to Chelsea from Reading but still. My point is the players they are signing are not improving their strongest team.Alonso's range of passing is sick, his sry piece taking is sick, he can actually tackle. He will bang a few goals.Barry just scores the odd tap in here and there and gets the odd assist due to Carew, Young or Gabbys class not his.Even Lucas is around Barrys level of ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Are you a Liverpool fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBK Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 The only hype is the price Premiership clubs want for their players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HangTheDJ Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Nah I meant Sidwell to Chelsea from Reading but still. My point is the players they are signing are not improving their strongest team.Barry just scores the odd tap in here and there and gets the odd assist due to Carew, Young or Gabbys class not his. That was 'cos Mourinho wasn't allowed anymore big funds from Abramovic though, he gave him no money in the January when he NEEDED defeners, then in the Summer Mourinho signed 3 players on a free and Malouda.And you've obviously dont watch us play regularly enough to comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agony Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Anybody else agree with me on this one.Barry ain't anywhere near good enough to play for Liverpool, Not as good as Masch, Alonso in the holding role or Babel on the left wing.Hleb is nowhere good enough to start ahead of Messi or Iniesta or Ron if he stays.Ade shouldnt start ahead of Bojan or Henry or Eto'o if he stays.Hargreaves was never technically a good enough player to sign for United.But because they are English or play for big clubs they are over hyped and make the move.Any Championship player >>> Steve SidwellSMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricious Beats Posted June 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Your front 3 is sick. Thats it fam. The rest of your team is average.Agbon Young and Carew are big.O Neill is a g for swapping waste of space Baros for Carew.And watch he will laugh all the way to the bank when he shots Barry any average £4M breh for going on £20M.Im neutral so I can see, your biased as you are a Villa fan.Back on the Hargeaves thing had been at Bayern for years, won things etc, hated by England fans. Nobody wanted to sign him, he puts in bare effort at the world cup and all of a sudden United are in for him.Scouts are lazy, they go for flavour of the month instead of searching out talent.Directors of football, they are the ones.Trust Rafa went Alonso is going Juve, find me a midfield replacement. And his DOF went Barry is hyped right now and tried to sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Your a lost soul still no point even writing anythinglike say the scout doesn't watch a player up to 11 times and write reports and sends videos to Rafa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricious Beats Posted June 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Obviously Rafa OK'ed it. But are you trying to tell me for £20M Liverpool, one of the worlds biggest clubs could not sign a better midfielder that Gareth Barry?If you are you are an idiot.Clubs are signing players with hype around them instead of better players who are understated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Q Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 We havent offered 20 million for him and highly doubt we will. If we were signing players with hype around them we would be trying to get Turan Or Arshavin.For example before Villa was "hyped" Rafa wanted him but he went to Valencia from Zaragoza....LOL @ thinking this is FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HangTheDJ Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Thats not the point though is it.And Liverpool arn't paying 20million, they dont want to pay 15million.Rafa wants him to get the best out of Gerrard and his system. The money is irrelevant.. it's about signing the right players, and Rafa obviously thinks Barry is the right player.Much like Hargreaves with his tenacious personality was exactly the right player to bring in to United, to add a drive to the midfield, versatility to the squad and not come with a massive ego who is gonna sulk and moan whenever he's not in the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 You are the idiot stillA MANAGER WANTS A PLAYERHE WILLS SIGN THE PLAYER IF HE WANTS HIMsimple as that whether it be Barry or Eto'osome dumbnesswho else is there to sign this isn't football manager suggest a central midfielder we should sign instead of Barry i can only think of Van Der Vaart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricious Beats Posted June 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 So if it is not about hype, why did they not try and sign Barry the season before? He was still at Villa doing whatever it is he does. Could have got him for cheaper. Now all of a sudden he is back for England everybody licking his balls and all of a sudden Pool want him.You have to admit hype plays a part.Zlatan went for £17M a couple of seasons ago, a World Class centre forward moving from a big club in Juve to a big club in Inter.Barry is not world class, moving from an average club in Villa to a top club in Pool for £15-20M. The difference in quality of the two players is huge yet the price is the same. It is hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Zlatan wasn't world class at Juventusshows how much you know still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBK Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 He was still f*ck*ng light years ahead of that no mark c*nt Barry. Please god don't let you be implying that Zlatan at Juve was of a similar standing to Gareth Barry.Again, the aforementioned point just emphasises the inflation of prices in the Premiership, not anything to do with media hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricious Beats Posted June 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 He was World Class at Ajax.Was banging in left foot goals from 40 yards at Juve so dont talk sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 He was World Class at Ajax.Was banging in left foot goals from 40 yards at Juve so dont talk sh*t.LMFAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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