NO SUNSHINE Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 The Chief Rabbi has called on Muslims to get used to living as a minority in Britain and to learn to separate religion from power. Lord Sacks said that neither Muslims nor Christians had yet learnt the lessons inflicted on the Jewish people by the Babylonian exile. “One of the great advantages of being Jewish is you know how to sing in the minor key,” he said. “We have had 26 centuries of experience ever since the Babylonian exile of living as a minority in the midst of a culture that does not share our views. Christianity and Islam have not had that experience.” He said that Christianity had learnt toleration but only after 100 years of “knocking the hell out of each other all over Europe”. “I have no doubt that Islam will work its way through to the essential situation that Judaism arrived at and Christianity, namely the substantive separation of religion from power. But there’s no quick way of getting there. It is quite a difficult and painful process within religion. “Only Muslims can do it. Nobody can tell them from the outside. That would be taken as an affront and I would regard it as morally unacceptable. I do see some wonderful Muslims in this country and elsewhere, in Iraq and even in Iran, going through that process. "I think some of the Muslim thinkers today are some of the most courageous thinkers I have come across and it is very striking how many of them are women. It is very interesting. So Islam will get there. But I would hope that one of the ways they would get there is just coming to understand how things work in Britain.” The Chief Rabbi was delivering the annual lecture to the think-tank Theos in London to an audience of politicians, journalists, academics, businessmen and faith representatives. He warned that Europe’s loss of a tolerant religious culture made it vulnerable to the advance of fundamentalism. Tolerant religion was “the only strong enough defence with some of the religiosity that is coming our way with the force of a hurricane,” the Chief Rabbi said. “Let me be blunt. Either we win or the fundamentalists win and that is the challenge. If the fundamentalists win, I wouldn’t hang around too long.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest R9 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I'll save 2 pages of essays and say itIt doesn't count as living as a minority when you run the country/world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokia Charger Wire Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 i usually rate Jonathan Sacks he usually talks sensebut this is gassed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ant Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 The Chief Rabbi has called on Muslims to get used to living as a minority in Britain and to learn to separate religion from power. Lord Sacks said that neither Muslims nor Christians had yet learnt the lessons inflicted on the Jewish people by the Babylonian exile. “One of the great advantages of being Jewish is you know how to sing in the minor key,” he said. “We have had 26 centuries of experience ever since the Babylonian exile of living as a minority in the midst of a culture that does not share our views. Christianity and Islam have not had that experience.” He said that Christianity had learnt toleration but only after 100 years of “knocking the hell out of each other all over Europe”. “I have no doubt that Islam will work its way through to the essential situation that Judaism arrived at and Christianity, namely the substantive separation of religion from power. But there’s no quick way of getting there. It is quite a difficult and painful process within religion. “Only Muslims can do it. Nobody can tell them from the outside. That would be taken as an affront and I would regard it as morally unacceptable. I do see some wonderful Muslims in this country and elsewhere, in Iraq and even in Iran, going through that process. "I think some of the Muslim thinkers today are some of the most courageous thinkers I have come across and it is very striking how many of them are women. It is very interesting. So Islam will get there. But I would hope that one of the ways they would get there is just coming to understand how things work in Britain.” The Chief Rabbi was delivering the annual lecture to the think-tank Theos in London to an audience of politicians, journalists, academics, businessmen and faith representatives. He warned that Europe’s loss of a tolerant religious culture made it vulnerable to the advance of fundamentalism. Tolerant religion was “the only strong enough defence with some of the religiosity that is coming our way with the force of a hurricane,” the Chief Rabbi said. “Let me be blunt. Either we win or the fundamentalists win and that is the challenge. If the fundamentalists win, I wouldn’t hang around too long.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I'll save 2 pages of essays and say itIt doesn't count as living as a minority when you run the country/worldlol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest luckstar Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 hes right in a way but i promise you when they get out of iraq and afghanistan and sort out a palestinian state and stop letting the jews knock down palestinian houses then the radicaliasation will slow downthe problems only going to get worsewhen the 3rd intifida begins next year the middle east will explode... young hussein that useless f*ck*ng dilute has brought ruin to the world with his false optimism and airy fairy meaningless words... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Disraeli Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Why can't they just leave people be and let people decide for themselves? It's like this guy EXPECTS everyone to become a Muslim one day. All they do is influence and corrupt minds. I am not saying their views are wrong and I am not just pointing at Islam here, but can people just not accept the individuals right to decide for themselves? Really makes me angry sometimes. It may not seem extreme to many, but it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TimeBomb Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 the audacity to talk about muslims mixing religion and power when his people are in palestine pushing people off their land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TimeBomb Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=...9448&ref=mf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhhhhh8 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 People still believe in Religion? Wow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Q Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I'll save 2 pages of essays and say itIt doesn't count as living as a minority when you run the country/worldlol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gayle Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 People still believe in Religion? Wow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 lol blue eyed jesus weeps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhhhhh8 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 People still believe in Religion? Wow... And you believe this dude is the son of a God? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro Sosa Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Y would Muslims want to be like Jews thoughAside from money what do they have They dont have love in their hearts that Muslims doAnd judging by their actions they dont fear God like Muslims do Id rather die than live like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NO SUNSHINE Posted November 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Y would Muslims want to be like Jews thoughAside from money what do they have They dont have love in their hearts that Muslims doAnd judging by their actions they dont fear God like Muslims do Id rather die than live like thatWhole post = :/You come across as being extremely hypocritical and self-righteous sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro Sosa Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Woteva brother at the end of the day at least i type what i feelAnd i dont see you do that very often so u cant really chat to me LLow calling me self righteous though thats not true at all dawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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