Mayweather Vs Mosley

[The King]

Great performance from Floyd.Thought HBO made an intresting point when they said Mosley might have over trained by doing a full camp straight after the Berto fight collapsed.He looked tired after the third.

[Flojo]

Floyd fought a masterful fight.More or less everyone expected him to be on the back foot and pot shot his way to a victory but for the most part he stood right there in the pocket like he did against Hatton.A lot of people have questioned his chin but he took 2 bombs from Mosley, regained his composure and even started to swing the momentum back in his favour in the same round. I think that must have had an affect on Mosley psychologically because throughout the build up he repeatedly stated that speed and power would be the difference, he was partially right because speed was a major factor in the fight but it wasn't his speed.Floyd's hand speed surprised Mosley and similarly to when he fought Oscar the timing of his crisp punches made Mosley think twice about throwing because he knew that if he missed he'd pay.I want to see the Pac PBF fight even more now, it has to happen.

[UN.Muzik]

Floyd fought a masterful fight.More or less everyone expected him to be on the back foot and pot shot his way to a victory but for the most part he stood right there in the pocket like he did against Hatton.A lot of people have questioned his chin but he took 2 bombs from Mosley, regained his composure and even started to swing the momentum back in his favour in the same round. I think that must have had an affect on Mosley psychologically because throughout the build up he repeatedly stated that speed and power would be the difference, he was partially right because speed was a major factor in the fight but it wasn't his speed.Floyd's hand speed surprised Mosley and similarly to when he fought Oscar the timing of his crisp punches made Mosley think twice about throwing because he knew that if he missed he'd pay.I want to see the Pac PBF fight even more now, it has to happen.

Literally going through my head post Round 4 onwardsNot even getting behind the Pacquiao hype because PBF's just the best, but it would be very interesting Floyd fighting someone just as (if not more) faster than him with arguably a more explosive punchLet's hope Pacman's overcome his fear of needles this time around

[Mic Man]

PBF = best pound for pound right now.Im a PacMan fan but he won't beat mayweather

[Guest Yilmaz]

Everything in this thread is like LDO

[Numero001]

Floyd fought a masterful fight.More or less everyone expected him to be on the back foot and pot shot his way to a victory but for the most part he stood right there in the pocket like he did against Hatton.A lot of people have questioned his chin but he took 2 bombs from Mosley, regained his composure and even started to swing the momentum back in his favour in the same round. I think that must have had an affect on Mosley psychologically because throughout the build up he repeatedly stated that speed and power would be the difference, he was partially right because speed was a major factor in the fight but it wasn't his speed.Floyd's hand speed surprised Mosley and similarly to when he fought Oscar the timing of his crisp punches made Mosley think twice about throwing because he knew that if he missed he'd pay.I want to see the Pac PBF fight even more now, it has to happen.

No denying the masterclass, but look at who was in the other corner. Did you honestly read the fight any different? We all said it depends on which Mosley turns up. Mosley didnt look anywhere near as defined as he has done over the course of his career. He was done for juice against DLH 2nd time they fought, a few of us speculated whether he was back on it after the job on Margarito fight, he wasnt allowed to take it this time... His fitness clearly wasnt there with him either.Speed wasnt the telling thing in the fight, conditioning was. Even Mosley's trainer said the same. Mosley punched himself out in the 2nd round. Had he maintained that, it COULD have been a different fightWhat makes me laugh is some of you same people on here were cussing an extremely durable, strong and live fighter in Clottey - that gave Cotto a tough fight - for not doing much whilst taking away from Pacqiao's phenomenal display, yet giving Mayweather credit for beating an exhausted 38 year old fighter who has had 4 fights 4 years? How does that one work then? To me Pacman put on a better display against a better opponent.Mayweather will be under a whole lot more pressure against Pac, and will have to come through a few more of those 2nd rounds to win. The biggest thing this fight showed me was Mayweather's as good his chin is, his defence isnt impregnable. Mosley wasnt able to sustain the pressure, we all know Pacquiao WILL!

[Aquaman]

Floyd fought a masterful fight.More or less everyone expected him to be on the back foot and pot shot his way to a victory but for the most part he stood right there in the pocket like he did against Hatton.A lot of people have questioned his chin but he took 2 bombs from Mosley, regained his composure and even started to swing the momentum back in his favour in the same round. I think that must have had an affect on Mosley psychologically because throughout the build up he repeatedly stated that speed and power would be the difference, he was partially right because speed was a major factor in the fight but it wasn't his speed.Floyd's hand speed surprised Mosley and similarly to when he fought Oscar the timing of his crisp punches made Mosley think twice about throwing because he knew that if he missed he'd pay.I want to see the Pac PBF fight even more now, it has to happen.

No denying the masterclass, but look at who was in the other corner. Mosley didnt look anywhere near as defined as he has done over the course of his career. He was done for juice against DLH 2nd time they fought, a few of us speculated whether he was back on it after the job on Margarito fight, he wasnt allowed to take it this time... His fitness clearly wasnt there with him either.Speed wasnt the telling thing in the fight, conditioning was. Even Mosley's trainer said the same. Mosley punched himself out in the 2nd round. Had he maintained that, it COULD have been a different fightWhat makes me laugh is some of you same people on here were cussing an extremely durable, strong and live fighter in Clottey - that gave Cotto a tough fight - for not doing much whilst taking away from Pacqiao's phenomenal display, yet giving Mayweather credit for beating an exhausted 38 year old fighter who has had 4 fights 4 years? How does that one work then? To me Pacman put on a better display against a better opponent.Mayweather will be under a whole lot more pressure against Pac, and will have to come through a few more of those 2nd rounds to win. The biggest thing this fight showed me was Mayweather's as good his chin is, his defence isnt impregnable. Mosley wasnt able to sustain the pressure, we all know Pacquiao WILL!

your trying it now. lol, Shane overtrained thats all he beat magarito fair and square.If Floyd fought whoever you would still have something to say this is def a better W than clottey. To suggest anything else is laughablenot gonna get into a back n forth. just the facts

[Flojo]

lol Numero your dislike for Mayweather is clouding your judgement.

Shane Mosley batters Margarito fresh off taking Cotto's 0, confronts Mayweather in the ring following May's victory over the blown up lightweight, but May isnt talking about Shane right now. Nor Paul Williams. It'll be interesting to see which fighter he scouts from the lower weight. He'll get crucified if he fights Mallinaggi, absolutely crucified

From what you said here you implied 1. That Mosley was a worthy opponent2. That Mayweather would fight somebody else, most likely from a lower weight classNow that Mayweather's beaten Mosley you're referring to him as 'a 38 year old fighter who has had 4 fights in 4 years'. This is the same guy who' battered' Margarito is it not? Mayweather has also had 4 fights in 4 years but his inactivity isn't relevant?Mosley was the fight everyone asked for after the Pac negotiations fell through and now that they've had it a lot are dismissing it because it didn't end how they wanted it to.This fight showed us that your pre fight plan is irrelevant because Mayweather might just throw you a curve ball so you better have a plan a ,b, c and d. Nobody expected him to stand right in front of Shane but he did, one of the reasons I'm so desperate for the Pac fight is to see how Mayweather approaches it.

[The King]

Pacquiao, who watched the fight in the Philippines, told Manilla radio station DZBB that he would agree to blood testing, but only if it is not taken within 24 days of the fight. That is basically the same stance that derailed the fight the first time around. "For me, as long as the drug test is not done close to the match, I'll agree because if they'll get blood from me close to the match, it will be a disadvantage for me because I'm smaller and he's big," Pacquiao said.

[anelka]

Mayweather will out class Mosely imoI dnt think Shane has a chance

I cant see Shane brawling or winning over 3 roundsAs Floyd senior said, jnr will be too clever, too quick & too smart..Floyd to outclass and dominate the fight

Pretty much..Imo I cnt see why Pacman would take the fight with Floyd, he is an easy target and Floyd is a great counter puncherFloyd will outclass and out think Manny for 12 rounds..With all this hype and excitement surrounding this Pacman guy, I cnt see why his camp will risk him being dominated by Floyd, they should hide behind the blood thing and get another fight n avoid Floyd

[Yuri]

oh yeahwho knew chris brown had such a sh*t voicei was cringing when he sang the anthem

[Phil Brooks]

lol Numero your dislike for Mayweather is clouding your judgement.

Shane Mosley batters Margarito fresh off taking Cotto's 0, confronts Mayweather in the ring following May's victory over the blown up lightweight, but May isnt talking about Shane right now. Nor Paul Williams. It'll be interesting to see which fighter he scouts from the lower weight. He'll get crucified if he fights Mallinaggi, absolutely crucified

From what you said here you implied 1. That Mosley was a worthy opponent2. That Mayweather would fight somebody else, most likely from a lower weight classNow that Mayweather's beaten Mosley you're referring to him as 'a 38 year old fighter who has had 4 fights in 4 years'. This is the same guy who' battered' Margarito is it not? Mayweather has also had 4 fights in 4 years but his inactivity isn't relevant?Mosley was the fight everyone asked for after the Pac negotiations fell through and now that they've had it a lot are dismissing it because it didn't end how they wanted it to.This fight showed us that your pre fight plan is irrelevant because Mayweather might just throw you a curve ball so you better have a plan a ,b, c and d. Nobody expected him to stand right in front of Shane but he did, one of the reasons I'm so desperate for the Pac fight is to see how Mayweather approaches it.

Agreed!!!Allow moaning and making the excuse of his age.

[Guest Yilmaz]

Floyd will beat Pacman no doubt. \Someone offer me the right odds, and I'll have a wager with you.

[Numero001]

lol Numero your dislike for Mayweather is clouding your judgement.

Shane Mosley batters Margarito fresh off taking Cotto's 0, confronts Mayweather in the ring following May's victory over the blown up lightweight, but May isnt talking about Shane right now. Nor Paul Williams. It'll be interesting to see which fighter he scouts from the lower weight. He'll get crucified if he fights Mallinaggi, absolutely crucified

From what you said here you implied 1. That Mosley was a worthy opponent2. That Mayweather would fight somebody else, most likely from a lower weight classNow that Mayweather's beaten Mosley you're referring to him as 'a 38 year old fighter who has had 4 fights in 4 years'. This is the same guy who' battered' Margarito is it not? Mayweather has also had 4 fights in 4 years but his inactivity isn't relevant?Mosley was the fight everyone asked for after the Pac negotiations fell through and now that they've had it a lot are dismissing it because it didn't end how they wanted it to.This fight showed us that your pre fight plan is irrelevant because Mayweather might just throw you a curve ball so you better have a plan a ,b, c and d. Nobody expected him to stand right in front of Shane but he did, one of the reasons I'm so desperate for the Pac fight is to see how Mayweather approaches it.

Agreed!!!Allow moaning and making the excuse of his age.

I've always said, "It depends on which Shane Mosley turns up". There is no denying the one that did wasnt in the same shape that he was against Margarito. He punched himself out in 2nd round. I dont think I ever said Mosley will win. Found this in Pac vs Cotto

People dislike Mayweather so much they turn anything he says into something negative. from what he said in that interview he wants to fight him, he just pointed out what will be said afterwards.The point about excuses is true, he beat JMM and all people went on about was the size difference. Nobody seemed to acknowledge that JMM is a supremely gifted boxer and couldn't land a punch which isn't a result of the size difference.Skills aside the way PBF conducts himself will only add to this fight as a spectacle anyway, theirs nothing better than a fight between a likeable guy and a guy that people hate and I'm sure PBF is fully aware of this.

All depends on which Mosley is fighting. If it vs. Mayorga he's in trouble, if its vs. Margarito then we are in for a real fight

Found this in Margarito vs Mosley thread

Mosley isnt winning this for sh*t. In fact, I can see him taking a pasting in this one. Oneadem ones where you think "Maybe this is one fight too many Mosley". People will be calling for him to retire after this. He's going in there to be the sacrificial lamb aka the big-name journeyman/easy set-up fight.I dont mind Mosely so I dont wanna see him get hurt. Now I'm wishing Mayorga won 'cause that would be a good fight between Marg and Mayorga in a sense of all-out, toe-to-toe brawling even though there will only be one outcome.

How wrong I was. Wouldnt be surprised if Mosley's back on the juice. There is no way he went from that Mayorga fight to this without it. Not ashamed with what I said in the slightest tho.That was probably the best I've ever seen Mosley; speed and power where at some crazy equilibrium. He always had the spped, but didnt really feel he had that power until I saw him knockout Mayorga. Impressive performance to say the least. Shows how f*cked up boxing is. Mosley lost to Cotto, Marg hammered Cotto yet Mosley pasted Marg.20k in the place was the second biggest shocker. How the hell did they manage to get that many out? Shows if the right fight is made, people will pay Mosley - PBF NOW!!! Wanna see PBF get f*cked up

Before anyone tries it, "wanna" doesnt mean "I believe he will" it means exactly what I said "wanna"But ultimately, go to the first page and you'll see I wrote:

Oh f*ck right off! This has worked out perfectly. I'd rather see Mosley-Mayweather followed by May-Pac, than the other way around.This is for the fans. The way it should have been if Mayweather didnt opt for Marquez like a p*ssy in the first place.Like I said in the Pac-Clottey thread, sod's law will mean Pac loses to Clottey, but I'm hoping for the best. I'm torn, want Mosley to f*ck him up difffffffffffffffferently. Knock man down at least 2, buss up mans face... allsorts (May's defence is too good for that but one can hope). On the other hand I want Pacman to do the same thing in return for the complete disrespect and defamation May showed him.If May beats, and he can, both of them I'll feel a void in my life on levels near to those I felt when MJ died. No hype. Hate himDeep down I do reckon Mosley will lose. I'm hoping its the Mosley who fought Margarito. That f*cker was possessed! Also hoping there isnt a Joe Cortez wannabe in there as its in Mosley's best interest to make this physical.

Mayweather is much younger. Mosley's last was 15 months ago.I dont hate Mayweather, I was always a fan of his right until people started gassing him. I dont like him for the same reason I dont like Clazaghe. To me there isnt much of a difference. Both made a career of beating well-known guys who ultimately werent gonna trouble them.

[Yuri]

^ So who SHOULD Mayweather fight that you think will trouble him?All I'm hearing is Pacquiao, and if Mayweather picks him apart the same way he did Mosley all we're gonna hear is "Pacquiao was fighting too heavy, Mayweather has never fought a legit threat his own weight at 147" etc. It gets old.And who else is there apart from Pacquiao? Does anybody still believe Cotto would have any chance? Margarito is...well, Margacheato. Berto and Williams aren't money-generators.

[Numero001]

^ So who SHOULD Mayweather fight that you think will trouble him?All I'm hearing is Pacquiao, and if Mayweather picks him apart the same way he did Mosley all we're gonna hear is "Pacquiao was fighting too heavy, Mayweather has never fought a legit threat his own weight at 147" etc. It gets old.And who else is there apart from Pacquiao? Does anybody still believe Cotto would have any chance? Margarito is...well, Margacheato. Berto and Williams aren't money-generators.

TBH apart from Pac (who isnt legit but operates well up there) there isnt a genuine challenger. I guess thats the downfall of being special. I'd like to see him at Light Middle. Fight Williams. Not every fight has to be a blockbuster. He is a big name now, surely that in itself should generate money if he, as he likes to say, is the biggest draw in boxing. Clottey isnt a big draw but Pac fought him and generated his own money.Unluckily for him he missed the likes of Mosley, DLH, Trinidad etc. at their best. Down in Super Feather he missed Morales, Barrera, JMM etc. He missed out on Cotto when he was a somebody. I guess its a bit unlucky in timing.

[Flojo]

Fair enough Numero but Mosley looked in perfect shape in the run up to the fight, he said he felt tight in the ring rather than gassed out.I see a lot of people talking about Williams as an opponent for Mayweather but I'm not sure why. I like Williams a lot but stylistically I don't think Mayweather is a good match up for him, he's tall but doesn't really use his height advantage.His punch output is the only attribute that I think would give him a chance but he leaves himself open to counter punches almost every time he throws. Quintana gave him massive problems with his movement and counter punching and won a UD, Williams soundly won the rematch but the 1st round KO didn't really tell us much about his ability to adjust his game plan. I thought he was fortunate to get the decision against Martinez who again gave him problems with movement and counter punches. I reckon Mayweather would win a UD and as a result all the above flaws would be cited as a way of discrediting the victory.

[Yuri]

I reckon Mayweather would win a UD and as a result all the above flaws would be cited as a way of discrediting the victory.

Lol, I completely agree with your analysis of any potential Williams match-up and this

is part of the reason some of the criticism against Mayweather are so ridiculous:What other fighter has his technical superiority used as an EXCUSE as to why he beat his opponent and to discredit a win, rather than having his superior skills applauded? Rather than "Mayweather demolished Gatti, he's pretty good", it's "Gatti had no defence and a bad game plan". It's not "Mayweather was boring against DLH, but did the job", it's "Oscar neglected his jab." "Oscar was faded".The fact that Mayweather is so technically sound (I would go as far as to say he is the most flawless boxer in the game in terms of technique, no Flomo) is often used against him, rather than praised. It's crazy. And once you've exhausted the list of people he's faced at 140+ who "were never that good anyway" you're not left with that many fighters.The criticism that is valid is that he has avoided fighters, but even when he's taken the fights that fans want to see (Hatton, Oscar, Mosley) he's won and he's still discredited for it.

[Numero001]

The fact that Mayweather is so technically sound (I would go as far as to say he is the most flawless boxer in the game in terms of technique, no Flomo) is often used against him, rather than praised. It's crazy. And once you've exhausted the list of people he's faced at 140+ who "were never that good anyway" you're not left with that many fighters.The criticism that is valid is that he has avoided fighters, but even when he's taken the fights that fans want to see (Hatton, Oscar, Mosley) he's won and he's still discredited for it.

I agree. I reckon he would have beaten the likes of Cotto, Margarito, Williams when they were all the top guys, but he missed every single one of them to fight Boldomir, Judah, Gatti etc. Fought Hatton at a weight he was never comfortable at (Collazo nearly dropped him in the last round), DLH at his weight but had struggled with conditioning for a while (reason I feel he lost to the judges), as I said before Mosley was a second away from embarrassment.Your 2nd statement is the reason for the 1st statement. To be the best you have to beat the best.Compare him with Pac Man who has fought EVERYONE he could and should have except Mayweather. This is why Pac doesnt face the criticism May does. As we all know, Mayweather is more concerned with hand-picking his opponents to maximise pay days rather than seal himself as a great in the ring than with his mouth.

[Flojo]

The fact that Mayweather is so technically sound (I would go as far as to say he is the most flawless boxer in the game in terms of technique, no Flomo) is often used against him, rather than praised. It's crazy. And once you've exhausted the list of people he's faced at 140+ who "were never that good anyway" you're not left with that many fighters.The criticism that is valid is that he has avoided fighters, but even when he's taken the fights that fans want to see (Hatton, Oscar, Mosley) he's won and he's still discredited for it.

I agree. I reckon he would have beaten the likes of Cotto, Margarito, Williams when they were all the top guys, but he missed every single one of them to fight Boldomir, Judah, Gatti etc. Fought Hatton at a weight he was never comfortable at (Collazo nearly dropped him in the last round), DLH at his weight but had struggled with conditioning for a while (reason I feel he lost to the judges), as I said before Mosley was a second away from embarrassment.Your 2nd statement is the reason for the 1st statement. To be the best you have to beat the best.Compare him with Pac Man who has fought EVERYONE he could and should have except Mayweather. This is why Pac doesnt face the criticism May does. As we all know, Mayweather is more concerned with hand-picking his opponents to maximise pay days rather than seal himself as a great in the ring than with his mouth.

Pac is worse than Mayweather in selecting his opponents but with him being so well liked people don't put his resume under scrutiny in the same way they do Mayweather's. The funny thing is that Roach actually tells everyone bare faced how he's cherry picking and nobody seems to pick up on it.

[Numero001]

The fact that Mayweather is so technically sound (I would go as far as to say he is the most flawless boxer in the game in terms of technique, no Flomo) is often used against him, rather than praised. It's crazy. And once you've exhausted the list of people he's faced at 140+ who "were never that good anyway" you're not left with that many fighters.The criticism that is valid is that he has avoided fighters, but even when he's taken the fights that fans want to see (Hatton, Oscar, Mosley) he's won and he's still discredited for it.

I agree. I reckon he would have beaten the likes of Cotto, Margarito, Williams when they were all the top guys, but he missed every single one of them to fight Boldomir, Judah, Gatti etc. Fought Hatton at a weight he was never comfortable at (Collazo nearly dropped him in the last round), DLH at his weight but had struggled with conditioning for a while (reason I feel he lost to the judges), as I said before Mosley was a second away from embarrassment.Your 2nd statement is the reason for the 1st statement. To be the best you have to beat the best.Compare him with Pac Man who has fought EVERYONE he could and should have except Mayweather. This is why Pac doesnt face the criticism May does. As we all know, Mayweather is more concerned with hand-picking his opponents to maximise pay days rather than seal himself as a great in the ring than with his mouth.

Pac is worse than Mayweather in selecting his opponents but with him being so well liked people don't put his resume under scrutiny in the same way they do Mayweather's. The funny thing is that Roach actually tells everyone bare faced how he's cherry picking and nobody seems to pick up on it.

Who would you say he hasnt fought that he should have? Morales, Barrera, JMM, Clottey gave Cotto a good fight, Cotto wasnt undefeated but isnt a slouch. I dont rate the DLH he fought. Can you name Mayweather opponents to match that?

[Flojo]

The fact that Mayweather is so technically sound (I would go as far as to say he is the most flawless boxer in the game in terms of technique, no Flomo) is often used against him, rather than praised. It's crazy. And once you've exhausted the list of people he's faced at 140+ who "were never that good anyway" you're not left with that many fighters.The criticism that is valid is that he has avoided fighters, but even when he's taken the fights that fans want to see (Hatton, Oscar, Mosley) he's won and he's still discredited for it.

I agree. I reckon he would have beaten the likes of Cotto, Margarito, Williams when they were all the top guys, but he missed every single one of them to fight Boldomir, Judah, Gatti etc. Fought Hatton at a weight he was never comfortable at (Collazo nearly dropped him in the last round), DLH at his weight but had struggled with conditioning for a while (reason I feel he lost to the judges), as I said before Mosley was a second away from embarrassment.Your 2nd statement is the reason for the 1st statement. To be the best you have to beat the best.Compare him with Pac Man who has fought EVERYONE he could and should have except Mayweather. This is why Pac doesnt face the criticism May does. As we all know, Mayweather is more concerned with hand-picking his opponents to maximise pay days rather than seal himself as a great in the ring than with his mouth.

Pac is worse than Mayweather in selecting his opponents but with him being so well liked people don't put his resume under scrutiny in the same way they do Mayweather's. The funny thing is that Roach actually tells everyone bare faced how he's cherry picking and nobody seems to pick up on it.

Who would you say he hasnt fought that he should have? Morales, Barrera, JMM, Clottey gave Cotto a good fight, Cotto wasnt undefeated but isnt a slouch. I dont rate the DLH he fought. Can you name Mayweather opponents to match that?

Pac's resume is strong on names but he pick fighters that are ripe for the picking in one way or another.Again These are opinions that I've drawn from listening to the person who lines up Manny's opponents, Freddie Roach.Roach openly said that Cotto was damaged goods after the Margarito fight and knew he wasn't the same which was evident by the way he fought in the Clottey fight. It's fortunate Clottey is such a nearly man. Roach said that after he trained DLh for the Mayweather fight that he knew DLh was done and couldn't pull the trigger. He also made DLH come down to a weight he hadn't fought at for 8 years which meant DLH had to use an iv to rehydrate himself for the fight.Roach said that after Mayweather KO'ed Hatton he wouldn't be the same and that his punch resistance was fading.Roach said that Clottey was too passive to win a fight against Pac. Clottey is most famous for nearly winning but is a credible opponent yet Mosley isn't?The only fighter that has given Pac any trouble in the past few years is JMM and thats because he is a slick boxer rather than a come forward plodder, Roach is fully aware of this and picks fighters that play into Pac's hands.Roach openly said that Mosley came to his gym to ask for a fight with Pac and he said to Mosley can you get down to 140.Mosley said no and asked why they couldn't fight at 147 like he did against DLH and roach said because you're not Oscar, you're too good.Would you say that is cherry picking?

[Numero001]

Yeah but Mayweather fights blatantly over the hill fighters that are in no chance of winning. There is no way you can tell me Mayweather isnt on par if not worse than Pac.I dont even think Hatton's punch resistance had gone, May fought Hatton at the weight Collazo nearly ko'd him at.End of the day, whether Roach believes Pac's gonna win or not, hes fighting the fighters. Who would you say Pac should have fought that he didnt. Clottey would probably beat this current Mosley. Dont use the nameMayweather hasnt fought anyone worthy throughout his while career. There is no comparison.

[Flojo]

Yeah but Mayweather fights blatantly over the hill fighters that are in no chance of winning. There is no way you can tell me Mayweather isnt on par if not worse than Pac.I dont even think Hatton's punch resistance had gone, May fought Hatton at the weight Collazo nearly ko'd him at.End of the day, whether Roach believes Pac's gonna win or not, hes fighting the fighters. Who would you say Pac should have fought that he didnt. Clottey would probably beat this current Mosley. Dont use the nameMayweather hasnt fought anyone worthy throughout his while career. There is no comparison.

Barerra, Morales, Hatton, Cotto and De La Hoya are Pac's most highly regarded victories which one of those fighters was in their prime at the time?lol what has Clottey done to suggest he would beat Mosley, lose to Cotto when he was presented with a heaven sent opportunity to win the fight and stands in front of Pac for half hour doing nothing?When you put both fighter's resumes under scrutiny to the same degree you realise how easy it is to discredit their opposition, Pac's personality buys him a lot of lee way while Mayweather's does the opposite.I would love for Pacquiao to fight a boxer rather than a come forward fighter to see how he handles it because JMM showed that with a little ring smarts you can cause him problems and this is why I think he ducked Mayweather. Roach openly said that they would need more time to prepare for Mayweather's style and in the lead up to the Clottey fight the sparring partners didn't seem to be emulating Clottey's style but Mayweather's.

[Yuri]

Mayweather hasnt fought anyone worthy throughout his while career. There is no comparison.

Woah, slow down bro.ManfredyCorralesHernandezJesus ChavezJLCDe La Hoya(Mosley ?)Aren't 'worthy' opponents?I agree with Flojo in the sense that Pacquiao's fights post-Diaz have been carefully selected hype jobs. However, it's churlish to completely dismiss his successes against Oscar, Hatton, Cotto and Clottey, given that he was competing well above his 'natural' weight and each of them had a significant weight advantage over him in the ring.