Aquaman Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 None of u mugs see the foot stepping going on by marquez pure cheating totally effected paquaios rythm You gotta be kidding me I just told you its southpaw vs orthodox = feet get crossed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Di Gradi Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 None of u mugs see the foot stepping going on by marquez pure cheating totally effected paquaios rythm if it isnt dance dance revolution asians dont have rhythm end of the day marquez outboxed him. Other than pacman fan boys everybody else knows marquez won. You land better + more effective punches and dominate rounds & dont get knocked out = you win. Bob Arum won this fight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 what the fuck is up with the way Pacquiao was walking through those punches though. I know certain guys can take a hit but boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojo Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 None of u mugs see the foot stepping going on by marquez pure cheating totally effected paquaios rythm if it isnt dance dance revolution asians dont have rhythm end of the day marquez outboxed him. Other than pacman fan boys everybody else knows marquez won. You land better + more effective punches and dominate rounds & dont get knocked out = you win. Bob Arum won this fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 When Southpaw fighters go up against Orthodox fighters, because of the angles at which they fight, their front feet are always in close proximity (as opposed to two fighters of the same stance, where their bodies would be mirrored by eachother), this usually leads to one fighter stepping on another foot when the fighters get within reach, it also causes a lot of accidental headbutts, again, due to angles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN DOE Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 what the fuck is up with the way Pacquiao was walking through those punches though. I know certain guys can take a hit but boy thats the meds he is on 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Sekkle down fool who the fuck do u think u r a judge or something get in line and take marquez c*ck out ya mouth u fucking mong 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaman Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 what the fuck is up with the way Pacquiao was walking through those punches though. I know certain guys can take a hit but boy thats the meds he is on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojo Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Just watched it again 1 Pac 2 jmm 3 Pac 4 jmm 5 jmm 6 jmm 7 jmm 8 Pac 9 Pac 10 Pac 11 jmm 12 jmm 7-5 Marquez and I gave Pac any round I thought was a toss up. I thought the clearest rounds were won by Marquez and the cleaner shots were landed by Marquez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38KOs) has advised his promoter, Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, that he wants an immediate fourth meeting with Juan Manuel Marquez (53-6-1, 39KOs). Last Saturday night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Pacquiao won a controversial twelve round majority decision over Marquez, with many observers believing Marquez did enough to win the fight. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 / If that happens then fair play to Manny, Even he knows he didn't deserve to win that, his walk back to his corner after the 12th round told you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichYung Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Mayweather: "MARQUEZ IS NEVER GOING TO GET THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT" http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11193.html BT: What's up Floyd? FM: How's it going Ben? BT: You know, I can't complain, at least not as much as Marquez can about losing another controversial decision to Pacquiao. I know you didn't get a chance to watch the fight. FM: I didn't. I was at the club. I had a party in Virginia. I got some text messages and some emails about the fight last night though. I didn't watch the fight, but from what I'm hearing, Marquez got cheated. Win, lose or draw, whoever I fight still has to be tested with random blood and urine tests. BT: From what you've heard, do you have any comment on Pacquiao's performance? FM: I can't really say nothing about him because there's been a defamation of character case filed against me. In the past, I was able to criticize my opponents and talk trash in a playful manner, but I guess, you know, with me talking trash to Manny Pacquiao, I got a lawsuit. I mean, Ali's done it and a lot of the other top fighters have done it. Fighters, we do it back and forth to each other. I mean, the fight could've happened the way it happened because, you know, someone is slowly changing so they can prepare to fight me. They know they're going to have to take the random blood and the random urine tests. BT: So you think there's a chance that they may actually want to fight you next? FM: What I don't really understand is, I know Manny Pacquiao can't really speak much because he don't really understand English, but he may know a few words because he do live in the States from time to time, so...I personally think it's Bob Arum having a vendetta. I think he's very very upset with me because, you know, I exposed and I opened the world's eyes up to different things. I never officially came out and said that I believe Manny Pacquiao is on steroids or that I believe he's on enhancement drugs; I never came out and said that he actually is. I only stated my opinion on what I believe in. BT: Well after the fight, Bob Arum was talking more about a 4th fight with Marquez than he was about a fight with you. FM: Why? I mean, I truly feel that Marquez is never going to get the benefit of the doubt. I want to congratulate Marquez and I want to congratulate Manny Pacquiao for doing it a third time, but I just feel like if you get it done right the first time, there's no need for a second or third fight, and if it is needed, do it again in the same fashion and in the same way, or do it even better. People fail to realize, when I faced Marquez, I was two years off just traveling and vacationing. I took two years off, no working out, no other activities. I went into training camp and then the fight had got pushed back because I had an injury, so that pushed it back a little bit more, but I still went out there and performed and looked marvelous. If I fight a guy and I don't knock him out, they say, "Well, Mayweather didn't knock him out." If I knock him out in the late rounds, they say, "Well, what took so long?" If I knock him out in the early rounds, they say, "Well, you can always catch a guy cold." Like I said before, I'm always in a no-win situation. If I fight a guy that's my age, they're going to say, "You know what? He's over the hill." When I fought Marquez, they said Marquez was over the hill. Remember, when I fought Marquez, I think he was 36 and I was 32. Now, two years later, Pacquiao is 32 and Marquez is 38. BT: They also said Marquez was too small for you. I know you didn't get a chance to see it, but Saturday night, on HBO's unofficial scales, Pacquiao weighed in at 148 pounds while Marquez weighed in at 150 pounds. He was actually 2 pounds heavier than him. FM: I mean, like I said before, I never accused Pacquiao of nothing, but I think I'm entitled to my own opinion. I just had an opinion. I didn't say, "I know you doing this" or "I know you doing that." I said some jokes in the past, had fun, doing it smiling, and we talked about it, but if I was or wasn't joking, it's just my opinion. I'm entitled to my own opinion. People have said things about me, and wrote and criticized me about things in the past, but it goes in one ear and out the other. A lot of times, I don't hear about it because, like I said before, I don't read it if it's negative. If it's positive, then they know to bring it to me. BT: After the fight, Freddie Roach said that Marquez has given Pacquiao problems three times now and he has to do a better job of dealing with counter-punchers, but in the past, he's suggested that you would be an easy fight for them because they have you figured out. Do you think there's a reason why Roach would make such contradictory statements considering that most people say you're the best counter-puncher in the sport. FM: I'm not going to say nothing about Freddie Roach. He's battling Parkinson's Disease, so I don't want to say nothing bad about him. If he says something about me, they're gonna be like, "Oh, Freddie Roach is chewing Floyd Mayweather out," but if I say something about him, they're gonna be like, "Why is he talking about a guy that has a disease." The only thing I can do is wish Freddie Roach nothing but the best with all of his fighters and I'm going to continue to do what I do. Freddie Roach has faced me before and he came up on the short end of the stick. Like I always say, a trainer can't get in there and fight for a fighter. I mean, it ain't no different for me. A trainer can train you, but you have to go out there and execute the game plan and that's something that I'm able to do. Mocking guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A walmart bag Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Lmao @ that pic. PAC MAN is still top dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberz999 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Marquez is a cheat foot stopper wasteman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaman Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 pactards a different breed im telling you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JOHN DOE Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 not a pac fan myself but i at first thght it was becuase they are both southpaws but not gonna lie a couple of those did look intentional dont change the fact that marquez was bumped. and for the 3rd time as well marquez shouldnt evenn fight him again should just leave it as that as most people know he was robbed. this has defo tainted pacquiaos career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN DOE Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 / If that happens then fair play to Manny, Even he knows he didn't deserve to win that, his walk back to his corner after the 12th round told you that. and he had the nerve to say 'i clearly won the fight' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Marquez isn't a southpaw, if both fighters are the same stance there's no problem. But yes he most likely knew what he was doing a couple of times, but it's something that happens naturally anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN DOE Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 mistake meant a southpaw opposed to an orthodox of course he knew he was doing it . i acknowldge naturally opposing stances are susceptible to clashes but some of those looked intentional and it looks like a good tactic as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Yup it's a trick like holding the back of the head, clever use the forearm etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaman Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 i honestlt dont think he was being dirty although i have not watched the vid his whole game plan was to get his lead foot inside of pacmans without that he gets anhiliated he even said in the faceoff that he intended to do this iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 You sure he didn't say outside? The whole reason the problem is caused is that Pac needs to manoeuvre so he can avoid Juans right hand, which means he will circle to his own right, likewise JMM needs to neutralise Pacs left hand so he circles to his own left (Pacquiaos right) keeping his lead foot outside Pacquiaos, the motion of them moving forward in the same direction means that when they come within reach of eachother, one is going to step on the others foot. It is however something that wiley fighters will do to try and gain an advantage, which JMM definitely is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 The way he pivoted away from Pacs left even in the midst of his own combos was beautiful tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarltonLeach Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I didn't believe any of the footstops untill I saw the one in round 12 on that video. FACKING ELLL :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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