some news

[Kurtis]

dumb question

just watched the autumn statement

when they talk about public borrowing, where exactly is the government borrowing the money from?

[SHOCK]

someone's shit is about to get fucked up

• UK warns of consequences after Iran embassy attack
  

http://gu.com/p/33ykk - video of the attack

http://gu.com/p/33m5m - demon making speech

William Hague has warned Iran it faces "serious consequences" over the attack on the British embassy in Tehran.

Hundreds of protesters surged onto two compounds this afternoon, putting the safety of staff at risk and causing "extensive damage" to property, the foreign secretary said.

"Clearly there will be other, further, and serious consequences. I will make a statement updating parliament on this tomorrow [Wednesday]."

Iranian police protected Britain's ambassador and some staff earlier from a large crowd outside, Hague said.

He added: "There has been a confusing situation at times as to the whereabouts of certain staff. I wouldn't use the term hostage. Clearly there have been situations where the Iranian police have intervened to try to ensure the safety of our staff.

"We are grateful for that but this situation should never have been allowed to arise in the first place."

Earlier on Tuesday, Iranian protesters stormed the buildings in Tehran, tearing down the union flag, throwing documents from windows, and reportedly briefly taking hostage six members of staff.

In scenes reminiscent of the takeover of the US mission in the same city in 1980 – which led to a long hostage standoff – crowds protesting against sanctions targeting Iran's nuclear programme smashed windows and burned a building at the main embassy compound, removing the British flag and replacing it with the Iranian one.

Six staff members were taken hostage at the ambassador's residence in northern Tehran, according to the semi-official Mehr news agency, but were later freed by police.

David Cameron chaired a meeting of the government's Cobra security committee on Tuesday afternoon, and the Iranian charge d'affaires was summoned to the FCO.

Hague said Iran had "committed a grave breach" of the Vienna convention, which demands the protection of diplomats and diplomatic premises under all circumstances. He added: "We hold the Iranian government responsible for its failure to take adequate measures to protect our embassy as it is required to do.

"I spoke to the Iranian foreign minister this afternoon to protest in the strongest terms about these events and to demand immediate steps to ensure the safety of our staff in both embassy compounds."

The White House also issued a strong protest.

Iran's foreign ministry later said it regretted the incidents, the ISNA news agency reported. It quoted a government statement that said: "The foreign ministry regrets the protests that led to some unacceptable behaviours.

"We respect and we are committed to international regulations on the immunity and safety of diplomats and diplomatic places."

Hague said of Iran's foreign minister, Ali Akbar Salehi: "While he said he was sorry for what had happened and that action would be taken in response, this remains a very serious failure by the Iranian government.

"The safety of our staff is our utmost priority. On our latest information, it now appears that all our staff and their dependants are accounted for. We are urgently establishing the whereabouts of our locally engaged security staff to ensure their wellbeing."

British nationals have been warned against "all but essential travel" to Iran, and the small number in the country were told to stay indoors and await advice.

The attack came two days after the Iranian parliament voted to expel the British ambassador, Dominick Chilcott, in retaliation for the new economic sanctions imposed by the west.

Ilna, another semi-official news agency, said the protesters had "conquered" the embassy. The events were shown live on state-run Press TV.

About 1,000 gathered on the street in front of the building, waving pictures of the Iranian nuclear scientist Majid Shahriari, who was assassinated in Tehran last November. Others held pictures of another assassinated Iranian scientist, Masoud Ali Mohammadi, and a senior commander of the elite Revolutionary Guard, Qassem Suleimani, who is said to be in charge of the group's overseas operations.

State TV reported that another group of hardline students had gathered at the gate of the British ambassador's residence in northern Tehran at the same time.

On Sunday, the Iranian parliament passed a bill to cut Iran's diplomatic ties with Britain and downgrade Tehran-London relations from an ambassadorial level to that requiring chargés d'affaires.

The move came in retaliation against the economic sanctions imposed by the west.

Tensions with Britain date back to the 19th century, when the Persian monarchy gave huge industrial concessions to London that led to significant British control over Iran's oil industry.

But they have become increasingly strained as the west accuses Iran of trying to develop nuclear weapons – a charge Tehran denies.

During the vote on Sunday, Mehdi Kuchakzadeh, a Tehran MP, suggested Iranians could raid the British embassy, implying a possible recurrence of the 1979 US hostage crisis in Iran. "The British government should know that, if they insist on their evil stances, the Iranian people will punch them in the mouth, exactly as happened against America's den of spies, before it was approved by officials," Kuchakzadeh said.

"We must lock the British embassy and ignore them until they come begging like the Americans," another MP, Mahmoud Ahmadi Bighash, said in quotes carried by the Borna news agency.

[O.Man]

obviously it was an iranian government ploy, they make it seem like it was ''students'' in sporting the ''green'' bandanna (peoples movement), but really it was Basiji (government army) who led the storm. the western press has been very irresponsible in headlining exactly what the iranian government want. now the western population will find it hard to sympathise with the green movement, because they think that the they are hated.

[MARVELL]

so theres consequences for people storming the UK embassy, but not for the western govts carrying out state sponsored terrorosm and assasinations in iran. seen

[O.Man]

that was Mossad, and its still heavily denied.

[MARVELL]

Mossad work along side the Mi5 and CIA, they all support each other, and the UK has acknowledged this and called for it to continue.

whoever negged me can suck their mums

[SHOCK]

What you reckon will be the next step of action. Do they really want to bring down Iran because of nuculear reasons when North Korea have just announced thier nuclear programme is going well? Or is it down to the demons wanting to control their banking system.

[MARVELL]

they know that N korea already posess nukes, but nothing daemons do is really in the interest of world security

N korea isnt strategic in terms of economic and policial gain, and is not importantly hostile to israel.

everything centres on israel...........

[O.Man]

Mossad work along side the Mi5 and CIA, they all support each other, and the UK has acknowledged this and called for it to continue.

whoever negged me can suck their mums

i didnt negnah i agree with u obv mossad/cia same thing US n israel same thing, but on paper they are different stories1 - Iranian government claims that Mossad assassinated head of nuclear program in Iran/Bombed nuclear facilities2 - Iranian government openly sends its revolutionary guard to ambush the british embassy and hold british citizens hostageUk have legitimate grounds for retaliationi dont know y the western media has done such a shit job of covering this storysince when was the basiji considered ''protesters''?since when did the iranian state tv publicise anything protesters in its own country are doing?

[MARVELL]

are there common people in Iran who dislike the west? or does verything have to be 'state organised'

either way, thats minor, and cant be an excuse for any sanctions. as if they havent sanctioned them to the full already. sanctions dont work for shit for a rich country with and oil and gas reserves. CHina will gladly buy up all their oil

[Mr. Martinez]

So baffled about this Iran situation. Didn't even know anything had happened till I see a video of some guy running out the embassy with a picture of the queen

BBC news did their thing and basically explained to me how

believe it or not, this guy is the 'good' guy:

and wants to ease tensions with the West.

but this man is the 'evil' guy

who arranged the whole embassy spectacle, and is basically an extremist.

The BBC finished by saying the two are growing in their divide and the country is basically being split into 2.

Not sure what to make of any of this.

[JOHN DOE]

fak second guy looks scary

[O.Man]

large proportion of population of iran have been brainwashed by state media into hating the west, but the students and large proportion of young adults have been into education and have had access to other sources of information, and themselves witnessed the unjust actions of the government in terms of dissidence, greed and power.

the first proportion is being split by ahmedinejad and khameni (supreme council)

but the second proportion want an end to the theocracy and want a secular state

so theres divides, and theres divides in the divides

[Kurtis]

Armoureddinnerjacket goes in with his press conferences I wont lie

bare passion

[MARVELL]

large proportion of the west have been brainwashed into hating muslims bymedia with a state like agenda

no difference between what goes on here and there for the most part

hearing about iran you woudlnt think they have a parliament

[Mr. Martinez]

What I don't understand is how the BBC can say, "believe it or not, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the good guy"

they say 'believe it or not', because they and every other media institution has been telling us he's a deranged, psycho for the last however many years and now he's the good guy?

Wtf?

[MARVELL]

super uncle tom herman cain has dropped out of the presidential race. Lol@ newt gingrich being the current frontrunner. man has blatantly asked for a a long fought WAR against iran...he says that a big air campaign against them will subdue them in a year. This daemon even gets ratings in the US, using the "church" and their affiliation to protect israel to get people on his side. even though thats never in the bible...

[SHOCK]

US drone shot down in Iran, the US are chatting some bullshit about one of thier drones lost control

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/04/iran-shoots-down-us-drone

[Mr. Martinez]

I read that story and I thought the same thing. NATO are jokes.

But then Iran are also jokes, "The drone suffered minor damage and is now in the possession of Iran"

YEAA RIGHT.

[MARVELL]

Major General Zhang Zhaozhong has said, "China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a third World War."

The United States and Israel have repeatedly threatened Tehran with the "option" of a military strike, based on the allegation that Iran's nuclear program may consist of a covert military agenda.

[SHOCK]

2012 might just be the end of the world as we know it

[Kurtis]

ooooooo shit

dont want it with China

pretty sure Russia is just itching to get involved aswell

[Gunner]

Found this

An Italian radio program’s story about Iceland’s on-going revolution is a stunning example of how little our media tells us about the rest of the world. Americans may remember that at the start of the 2008 financial crisis, Iceland literally went bankrupt. The reasons were mentioned only in passing, and since then, this little-known member of the European Union fell back into oblivion.

As one European country after another fails or risks failing, imperiling the Euro, with repercussions for the entire world, the last thing the powers that be want is for Iceland to become an example. Here’s why:

Five years of a pure neo-liberal regime had made Iceland, (population 320 thousand, no army), one of the richest countries in the world. In 2003 all the country’s banks were privatized, and in an effort to attract foreign investors, they offered on-line banking whose minimal costs allowed them to offer relatively high rates of return. The accounts, called IceSave, attracted many English and Dutch small investors. But as investments grew, so did the banks’ foreign debt. In 2003 Iceland’s debt was equal to 200 times its GNP, but in 2007, it was 900 percent. The 2008 world financial crisis was the coup de grace. The three main Icelandic banks, Landbanki, Kapthing and Glitnir, went belly up and were nationalized, while the Kroner lost 85% of its value with respect to the Euro. At the end of the year Iceland declared bankruptcy.

Contrary to what could be expected, the crisis resulted in Icelanders recovering their sovereign rights, through a process of direct participatory democracy that eventually led to a new Constitution. But only after much pain.

Geir Haarde, the Prime Minister of a Social Democratic coalition government, negotiated a two million one hundred thousand dollar loan, to which the Nordic countries added another two and a half million. But the foreign financial community pressured Iceland to impose drastic measures. The FMI and the European Union wanted to take over its debt, claiming this was the only way for the country to pay back Holland and Great Britain, who had promised to reimburse their citizens.

Protests and riots continued, eventually forcing the government to resign. Elections were brought forward to April 2009, resulting in a left-wing coalition which condemned the neoliberal economic system, but immediately gave in to its demands that Iceland pay off a total of three and a half million Euros. This required each Icelandic citizen to pay 100 Euros a month (or about $130) for fifteen years, at 5.5% interest, to pay off a debt incurred by private parties vis a vis other private parties. It was the straw that broke the reindeer’s back.

What happened next was extraordinary. The belief that citizens had to pay for the mistakes of a financial monopoly, that an entire nation must be taxed to pay off private debts was shattered, transforming the relationship between citizens and their political institutions and eventually driving Iceland’s leaders to the side of their constituents. The Head of State, Olafur Ragnar Grimsson, refused to ratify the law that would have made Iceland’s citizens responsible for its bankers’ debts, and accepted calls for a referendum.

Of course the international community only increased the pressure on Iceland. Great Britain and Holland threatened dire reprisals that would isolate the country. As Icelanders went to vote, foreign bankers threatened to block any aid from the IMF. The British government threatened to freeze Icelander savings and checking accounts. As Grimsson said: “We were told that if we refused the international community’s conditions, we would become the Cuba of the North. But if we had accepted, we would have become the Haiti of the North.” (How many times have I written that when Cubans see the dire state of their neighbor, Haiti, they count themselves lucky.)

In the March 2010 referendum, 93% voted against repayment of the debt. The IMF immediately froze its loan. But the revolution (though not televised in the United States), would not be intimidated. With the support of a furious citizenry, the government launched civil and penal investigations into those responsible for the financial crisis. Interpol put out an international arrest warrant for the ex-president of Kaupthing, Sigurdur Einarsson, as the other bankers implicated in the crash fled the country.

But Icelanders didn’t stop there: they decided to draft a new constitution that would free the country from the exaggerated power of international finance and virtual money. (The one in use had been written when Iceland gained its independence from Denmark, in 1918, the only difference with the Danish constitution being that the word ‘president’ replaced the word ‘king’.)

To write the new constitution, the people of Iceland elected twenty-five citizens from among 522 adults not belonging to any political party but recommended by at least thirty citizens. This document was not the work of a handful of politicians, but was written on the internet. The constituent’s meetings are streamed on-line, and citizens can send their comments and suggestions, witnessing the document as it takes shape. The constitution that eventually emerges from this participatory democratic process will be submitted to parliament for approval after the next elections.

Some readers will remember that Iceland’s ninth century agrarian collapse was featured in Jared Diamond’s book by the same name. Today, that country is recovering from its financial collapse in ways just the opposite of those generally considered unavoidable, as confirmed yesterday by the new head of the IMF, Christine Lagarde to Fareed Zakaria. The people of Greece have been told that the privatization of their public sector is the only solution. And those of Italy, Spain and Portugal are facing the same threat.

They should look to Iceland. Refusing to bow to foreign interests, that small country stated loud and clear that the people are sovereign.

That’s why it is not in the news anymore.

[MARVELL]

Barrats and priceless shoes gone bust. must say ive never stepped foot into a priceless store ever..but ive reached barratts.

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Iran has published pictures and video of the US stealth drone they "forced down", and just as they claimed it appeared to be in perfect condition. The US military claimed that what they had was a pile or rubble gotta love daemonz

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EU merkell and that uber zionist short french c*nt sarkozy want to introduce a new EU treaty that gives the EU more power to introduce taxes and gain control over london's financial prowess. one world banking to begin with the EU........

[O.Man]