Player Tiers. Discuss

[Fresh]

What does he lack?

[Fighting Weight]

Because he's got a shit footballing brain or decides not to use it in the personal persuit of being a one man team

 

HOWEVER if Ronaldo played in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, he would be known as the GOAT without question

 

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yes I have seen a hundred times more of either Maradonna or Pele (be it scare, but full games or compulations, dvds, shows) where I can actually see them play with my own eyes

 

Yashin, not so much

 

As I said I do not disagree with having Yashin in the list of greatest ever keepers but to have him as the only keeper when hes the only one out of a list of others that you or I havent seen play isn't something I'd do

[O Fenomeno]

Dominace in the international scene

[Fighting Weight]

What does he lack?

 

Intelligence

 

(he doesn't actually, he just has an ego)

[Fighting Weight]

Dominace in the international scene

 

This too

[O Fenomeno]

Schmeichel?

Buffon?

Kahn?

Casillas?

Neuer?

Dida?

Toldo?

Van Der Sar?

Barthez?

Marcos?

Julio Cesar?

[O Fenomeno]

Messi will become a goat if he dominates a WC

If Argentina reach a Semi Final at least and he has an excellent WC

[O Fenomeno]

I have watched DVDs of Pele e Maradona but was told its not good enough because I never saw them in the flesh or live on TV

[Fighting Weight]

Tiers from your list

 

Buffon

Schmeichel

Khan

 

Van Der Saar

Saint Mark

Toldo

 

Cesar of the previous decade / his current form

 

Casillias

Dida

 

Neuer is too yuoung

 

The bottom two aren't in the others league, especially the top 3

[Fighting Weight]

I have watched DVDs of Pele e Maradona but was told its not good enough because I never saw them in the flesh or live on TV

 

Thats stupid, if youve watched them you've watched them, obviously some mediums are better than others but still

[O Fenomeno]

Fair enough

[Flojo]

Tiers are all over the place.

 

The number of Premier League / English players coupled with the omission of John Barnes disgusts me, it's a real shame that he never had the opportunity to do it on the the European stage for Liverpool at the peak of his powers.

[Benicio del Toney]

We need to talk about Schmiechel being a God but Khan only being a Demi. 

 

Which ever level you put them, they meant to be same level

 

Nah, Schmeichel should be GOAT tbh.

[Benicio del Toney]

the omission of John Barnes disgusts me, it's a real shame that he never had the opportunity to do it on the the European stage for Liverpool at the peak of his powers.

 

Peter Beardsley (should be on the list also) said John Barnes was the best player he ever played with.

 

And Peter Beardsley played in them World Cups with Hoddle, Waddle etc...

 

 

England just didn't let Barnes be free like Dalglish let him be.

 

 

If I could change 1 thing in footballing history it would be seeing that Liverpool team in the European Cup.

 

 

I think they woulda fucked over AC Milan still.

[O Fenomeno]

I disagree

Nobody was stopping Sacchi's Milan

Just look at the players

Baresi

Maldini

Ancelotti

Costacurta

Rijkaard

Gullit

Van Basten

Toney let's be realistic

Van Basten was the best European player at the time