Grafter Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Stop and search is a vital police tool - and especially important in relation to combating gangs, knife crime and drug offences. In the last year in London alone, stop and searches resulted in 45,000 criminals being arrested, including more than 3,000 who were carrying weapons and guns, and more than 7,000 in possession of suspected stolen goods. Vital police tool But when it is over-used, or when people are targeted when they do not need to be, it is a waste of police time and erodes community confidence in the police. Home Secretary Theresa May said: The government supports the ability of police officers to stop and search suspects. But if it’s being used too much or with the wrong people, then that is a dreadful waste of police time. It must be applied fairly and in a way that builds community confidence in the police rather than undermining it. Stop and search More than one million stop and searches are carried out every year – taking up more than 300,000 hours of officer time. On average, only about nine per cent of those incidents results in an arrest and the figures also vary considerably among forces. Figures show that people from a black or ethnic minority background are up to seven times more likely to be stopped and searched by the police than those from white backgrounds. This consultation will look at whether stop and search is used appropriately and fairly, and how it can be better targeted and more intelligence-led. The Home Secretary said: I want to see stop and search used only when it’s needed, I want to see higher search to arrest ratios, I want to see better community engagement, and I want to see more efficient recording practices across the country. Independent review Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) has carried out an independent review into these powers and its recommendations will be published next week. The report is expected to provide, for the first time, a comprehensive evidence base of how stop and search is used and recorded across the country. The results of the public consultation, which can also be taken online, will shape future work with HMIC, the College of Policing and police forces to ensure stop and search works fairly and in the interests of all members of the public. Background information The search-to-arrest ratio varies considerably across forces. In Cumbria the figure is three per cent; in Kent it is 19 per cent. In London, where most stop and search incidents take place, it is eight per cent, in Greater Manchester it is eight per cent. Police stopped and searched 1.2 million persons and/or vehicles under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act (PACE) and other legislation in 2011/12. Police forces in England and Wales stopped and searched 9 per cent fewer people in 2011/12 than in 2010/11. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 woah my eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuffir Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 section b for the ic3s i thought a lot of the stop n search powers came from the terrorist act even doe they quote the misuse of drugs act newai it is what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 can u sue the police for harrasment if there constantly pullin u over.....?? wot can be done if this is happenin nt for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafter Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 y did you do that to my post JOHN DOE? I use the white background as do many others, i cant read a damn thing now. writing is also too small cretin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshie Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Grafter, on 02 Jul 2013 - 20:24, said: Stop and search is a vital police tool - and especially important in relation to combating gangs, knife crime and drug offences. In the last year in London alone, stop and searches resulted in 45,000 criminals being arrested, including more than 3,000 who were carrying weapons and guns, and more than 7,000 in possession of suspected stolen goods. Vital police tool But when it is over-used, or when people are targeted when they do not need to be, it is a waste of police time and erodes community confidence in the police. Home Secretary Theresa May said: The government supports the ability of police officers to stop and search suspects. But if it’s being used too much or with the wrong people, then that is a dreadful waste of police time. It must be applied fairly and in a way that builds community confidence in the police rather than undermining it. Stop and search More than one million stop and searches are carried out every year – taking up more than 300,000 hours of officer time. On average, only about nine per cent of those incidents results in an arrest and the figures also vary considerably among forces. Figures show that people from a black or ethnic minority background are up to seven times more likely to be stopped and searched by the police than those from white backgrounds. This consultation will look at whether stop and search is used appropriately and fairly, and how it can be better targeted and more intelligence-led. The Home Secretary said: I want to see stop and search used only when it’s needed, I want to see higher search to arrest ratios, I want to see better community engagement, and I want to see more efficient recording practices across the country. Independent review Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) has carried out an independent review into these powers and its recommendations will be published next week. The report is expected to provide, for the first time, a comprehensive evidence base of how stop and search is used and recorded across the country. The results of the public consultation, which can also be taken online, will shape future work with HMIC, the College of Policing and police forces to ensure stop and search works fairly and in the interests of all members of the public. Background information The search-to-arrest ratio varies considerably across forces. In Cumbria the figure is three per cent; in Kent it is 19 per cent. In London, where most stop and search incidents take place, it is eight per cent, in Greater Manchester it is eight per cent. Police stopped and searched 1.2 million persons and/or vehicles under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act (PACE) and other legislation in 2011/12. Police forces in England and Wales stopped and searched 9 per cent fewer people in 2011/12 than in 2010/11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grafter Posted July 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 thanks is there a reason that the link to the consultation was removed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskay Jones Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Refuse stop and search if they dont have probable cause or reason. I said it a thousand times get to know the law knowledge is more powerful than any entity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtis Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 theyll talk about it its pure show nothing will be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illusion Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Never once been stopped and searched. Have been told to fuck off by the bacon boys numerous times, but never searched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN DOE Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 U white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtis Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 ive never been searched either but ive been stopped a few times twice in a large group who got searched cause they were yappin, but i didnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lens Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 In the last year in London alone, stop and searches resulted in 45,000 criminals being arrested, including more than 3,000 who were carrying weapons and guns, and more than 7,000 in possession of suspected stolen goods. and the other 35,000 were arrested because the police harassed them while they were not in possession of anything illegal. more than 3/4 weren't doing anything illegal and the stop and search alone was the cause of the arrest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 In the last year in London alone, stop and searches resulted in 45,000 criminals being arrested, including more than 3,000 who were carrying weapons and guns, and more than 7,000 in possession of suspected stolen goods. and the other 35,000 were arrested because the police harassed them while they were not in possession of anything illegal. more than 3/4 weren't doing anything illegal and the stop and search alone was the cause of the arrest. c/s I've witnessed this with my own eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 In the last year in London alone, stop and searches resulted in 45,000 criminals being arrested, including more than 3,000 who were carrying weapons and guns, and more than 7,000 in possession of suspected stolen goods. and the other 35,000 were arrested because the police harassed them while they were not in possession of anything illegal. more than 3/4 weren't doing anything illegal and the stop and search alone was the cause of the arrest. c/s I've witnessed this with my own eyes. C/s this has happened to meThis is why I don't agree with all this talk about "show them you know the law", that youtube lawyer chat will have you in a cell for disorderly behaviour before you finish your sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illusion Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 U white? Mixed. I get picked out for extra investigation when traveling by air almost always though. It's like I said in the assumptions thread, most white people can't make a call on my ethnic make up. Have been taken for an Arab several times. In January I flew from Heathrow and they took the piss. Swabbed my fuckin phone for explosives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 tht is a piss take people should protest,, at the end of the day thts modern day times racism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 I undertstand his frustration but racial profiling is not racism 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 thts wot they tell u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacksbranning Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Just to let a few guys know that probably dont know in the past 50 years a THOUSAND black men have been killed police custody . Make of that what you will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marly Mar Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Joketing custodial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Just to let a few guys know that probably dont know in the past 50 years a THOUSAND black men have been killed police custody . Make of that what you will Versus how many white men? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacksbranning Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Just to let a few guys know that probably dont know in the past 50 years a THOUSAND black men have been killed police custody . Make of that what you will Versus how many white men? Don't know how many tbh , didn't look up those figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Ferguson Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 Too many man have died in police custody and no fed been prosecuted. Deeper than life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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