Goddaz Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/8001796.stm Lottery organisers have warned people to guard their tickets after a couple who found a £30,000 winning ticket and cashed it in were sentenced for fraud.Amanda Stacey, 34, from Swindon, Wiltshire, reportedly found the prize ticket on the floor of her local Co-op. She and her husband Michael reportedly spent some money on clearing debts. The Staceys admitted charges of making a false representation, and Amanda Stacey also admitted theft. They were given 11-month suspended sentences. Police were brought in after Dorothy McDonagh proved to lottery firm Camelot that the ticket was hers, The Sun newspaper reported. Police reportedly froze the remaining £15,000 and brought charges against the couple. The pair admitted charges of making a false representation and Amanda Stacey also admitted theft. On Tuesday, a judge at Swindon Crown Court said the pair had acted out of financial need, not greed, The Sun said. We are reminding players to keep their tickets safe and fill out their names and addresses on the back Camelot spokesman A court hearing in July will decide if Ms McDonagh, 61, will get the remaining £15,000. On Wednesday a Camelot spokesman said: "The dispute is now between the two parties involved. "We are reminding players to keep their tickets safe and fill out their names and addresses on the back. That way there can be no dispute. "We have a clear lost-and-found policy, so if a member of the public finds the ticket they should send it to our prize payout department, setting out in writing the circumstances of the find and the steps they took [if any] to reunite the ticket with its rightful owner. "If no corresponding prize claim or lost ticket notice has been received, the prize may be paid to the finder at Camelot's discretion after the expiry of the 180-day claim deadline." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojo Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 lol saw this earlier, should be grateful for the 15k thats left after losing her ticket in the place she most likely bought it from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeko Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 how did she prove this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddaz Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'm not sure tbh but I'm guessing CCTV of her buying the ticket, they zoomed in & the numbers could be seen, maybe she marks the same numbers moretime. orWhen the couple that falsely claimed the ticket couldn't prove how/when/where they bought the ticket but the real winners could. Maybe they weren't even near where the ticket was bought.*Shrugs* "If no corresponding prize claim or lost ticket notice has been received, the prize may be paid to the finder at Camelot's discretion after the expiry of the 180-day claim deadline."The real ticket holder must have put in a lost ticket claim so Camelot did what they had to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skola Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Wait a minit....THEFT?!?BOY....they must have a sh*t lawyer, coz I'm sure that aint theft - they found it.Example: My girlfriend left her phone on the counter in a shop, and later that day realised it was gone. Long story cut short, when she spoke to the police they said that it wasnt theft because nobody had stolen it - it had been FOUND.If you walk in a public place, and pick up something you see on the floor, you've stolen it? Thats bullshit.These people are not criminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davicious X Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Im baffled, if I find a ticket with winning numbers I understand that the tickets gotta go to the rightful owner but I cant get a finders fee? Fark orf, Id burn the ticket tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 init^^^^lmAO stooopiddddddddddd doh¬ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WAVESURFER Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Wait a minit....THEFT?!?BOY....they must have a sh*t lawyer, coz I'm sure that aint theft - they found it.Example: My girlfriend left her phone on the counter in a shop, and later that day realised it was gone. Long story cut short, when she spoke to the police they said that it wasnt theft because nobody had stolen it - it had been FOUND.If you walk in a public place, and pick up something you see on the floor, you've stolen it? Thats bullshit.These people are not criminals.Not theft, fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skola Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Wait a minit....THEFT?!?..............These people are not criminals.Not theft, fraud.Now I re-read, they were charged with fraud, but the woman admitted theft? wtf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NO SUNSHINE Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Im baffled, if I find a ticket with winning numbers I understand that the tickets gotta go to the rightful owner but I cant get a finders fee? Fark orf, Id burn the ticket tbhIf I lost my winning ticket, but received a phone call telling me a Mr. Gandalf had found it and handed it in and I was getting £15 mil, I'd chuck you a little 30 grand or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipset Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 deepamd the original owner is lucky she got it back, eventho not the full amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WAVESURFER Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Wait a minit....THEFT?!?..............These people are not criminals.Not theft, fraud.Now I re-read, they were charged with fraud, but the woman admitted theft? wtf.Oh yeah, just noticed that part.Dunno about the theft thing then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojo Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Im baffled, if I find a ticket with winning numbers I understand that the tickets gotta go to the rightful owner but I cant get a finders fee? Fark orf, Id burn the ticket tbhIf I lost my winning ticket, but received a phone call telling me a Mr. Gandalf had found it and handed it in and I was getting £15 mil, I'd chuck you a little 30 grand or something30 grand?!?I'd at least buy him a yard and set him more than 30k on top of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpedeum Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Wait a minit....THEFT?!?BOY....they must have a sh*t lawyer, coz I'm sure that aint theft - they found it.Example: My girlfriend left her phone on the counter in a shop, and later that day realised it was gone. Long story cut short, when she spoke to the police they said that it wasnt theft because nobody had stolen it - it had been FOUND.If you walk in a public place, and pick up something you see on the floor, you've stolen it? Thats bullshit.These people are not criminals.Not theft, fraud.how is it fraud? do lottery tickets have personal details on them? i thoguth they just have numbers..and anyone who finds them can claim them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucaPiano Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 how is it fraud? do lottery tickets have personal details on them?Yo Kamal"In the broadest sense, a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEAZE BALL Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 TBH they would have buss it if they had my barristerFraud you knowSMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpedeum Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 how is it fraud? do lottery tickets have personal details on them?Yo Kamal"In the broadest sense, a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual." deception does not come into play here i dont see how it does anyway. unless there were personal details involved that were impersonated. i mean i find a lottery ticket..what law says i must hand it in? i blame their sh*t duty solicitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEAZE BALL Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Its not even that deepAll they had to do is not bait themselves up by saying they cashed it knowing it was the ticket that they found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black. Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Thats f*cked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skola Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 innit - i think we can conclude they need a new ,awyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flat Ericó Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 how did dorothy prove it was her ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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