In/Out Shake it all about.

[Ulysses]

Conservatives are cunts.

 

A statement that needs no explanation really.

So are the Liberal Democrats and the Labour Party. Can you point out any discernible difference between the 3?

[Ulysses]

Labour were honest fools, naive with good intentions.

 

Can you really say the same about Dave and his mandem. 

 

Is an honest fool better than a dishonest fool, at the end the result is still foolishness.

[Gambino]

Not so sure Tony Blaire was honest. He was lining up his pockets and future with the EU. Didn't his misses make a load of money from something to do with Europe.

[Ulysses]

Not so sure Tony Blaire was honest. He was lining up his pockets and future with the EU. Didn't his misses make a load of money from something to do with Europe.

Yeah exactly, the Human Rights Act benefitted Cherie Blair and her friends enormously. 

 

What about the spin. What about Iraq? What about destroying this country's finances? What about their complete assault on this country's civil liberties and the exaggerated threat of terrorism?

[Gambino]

There is absolutely no reason why we can't have a Free Market like we were supposed to be signing up for back in the day but got duped. Without having to be under the control of some foriegn unelected rulers. They won't even negotiate returning some powers back to us right now lol. And the fact that Obamas been on the phone telling Dave USA don't want us leaving is probably a good reason to get the fuck out too.

[Heero Yuy]

Not so sure Tony Blaire was honest. He was lining up his pockets and future with the EU. Didn't his misses make a load of money from something to do with Europe.

Yeah exactly, the Human Rights Act benefitted Cherie Blair and her friends enormously. 

 

What about the spin. What about Iraq? What about destroying this country's finances? 

 

Did Labour in general make life better for the average Brit during their time ? Of course we're paying for the mistakes that government made but you make out like it was a isolated incident, like only England got themselves into it. It was a lesson for the world.

 

Iraq was a situation that any leader of the UK would have been pulled into by America regardless, it's easy to look on hind sight and see how terrible it's gone but who could have predicated that ?

[Flojo]

The Conservatives aren't fools though, they're calculated in their fuckery which is what disgusts me.

 

It's the arrogance of the cunts that really gets to me which is personified by Osborne and Cameron smugly grinning when being questioned on their failing policies which according to numerous political analysts and independent bodies were doomed to fail from the outset.

 

They're cunts. It amazes me they have the bare faced cheek to constantly berate the poorest people in the country for having a sense of entitlement when their whole party is populated by cunts who've seemingly got it ingrained into their psyche that coming from their background means they're entitled to take up some of the most senior roles in government.

 

How the fuck is George Osborne the chancellor when prior to this job his only experience of work was working part time doing data input and folding fucking towels at Selfridges?

 

They're cunts and I would happily box Cameron and Osborne square in the face because it's clear by watching them debate that reasoned logic means nothing to them.

[Mic Man]

Ulysses just lurks the forum waiting for someone to bring up politics. Never see man In any other types of thread. Probably got the ass and titty threads on ignore

[Gambino]

http://youtu.be/p52BofOIHUQ

[Kurtis]

@Kurtis

 

Cannot say what the Cons would of been doing back then but I am talking about what they are doing now with the cuts.... However I believe leaving the EU would save us a whole heap of cash which could go towards paying these debts rather than the burden being put on every ones household. We pay in a lot more than we get out of it.

 

I don't know the figures and rules on Immigrants coming here but I am going off listening to a Politician who I actually believe in and seems to be involved in Politics for his beliefs. I suppose UKIP are the party you consider extremists? Either way if I or he is wrong about Immigrants being able to claim handouts and housing is it still not a decent idea to put a law down on it? A woman I worked with in her mid 50s who has worked all her life then got made redundant couldn't claim anything when signing on because her Husband works. Yet if somebody who has never worked here can? Surely that ain't right. And why say Non EU?

 

in all honesty i dont believe what the cons are doing is good. all theyre doing is placing all the blame on the working class and showing them as the demons, and not only that, making out that disabled people or whatever are benefit cheats so they can push through these "reforms", when its like 0.5% of claims that are fraudulent, theres more fraud from prople working or whatever (evenmore a good chunk of benefit claimants actually work)  not to mention dismantling the NHS.

 

again, you cannot come into the country as a non EU citizen and claim benefits, not when youre on a student visa, not when youre on a work visa, not as anything, unless you are granted some sort of different leave to remain in the UK, and even then, theres a small chance youll be allowed to.

i agree hoousing and benefits shouldnt be handed out to random immigrants,  but thats not an issue because its not

[Ulysses]

 

Not so sure Tony Blaire was honest. He was lining up his pockets and future with the EU. Didn't his misses make a load of money from something to do with Europe.

Yeah exactly, the Human Rights Act benefitted Cherie Blair and her friends enormously. 

 

What about the spin. What about Iraq? What about destroying this country's finances? 

 

Did Labour in general make life better for the average Brit during their time ? Of course we're paying for the mistakes that government made but you make out like it was a isolated incident, like only England got themselves into it. It was a lesson for the world.

 

Iraq was a situation that any leader of the UK would have been pulled into by America regardless, it's easy to look on hind sight and see how terrible it's gone but who could have predicated that ?

 

 

 

Not so sure Tony Blaire was honest. He was lining up his pockets and future with the EU. Didn't his misses make a load of money from something to do with Europe.

Yeah exactly, the Human Rights Act benefitted Cherie Blair and her friends enormously. 

 

What about the spin. What about Iraq? What about destroying this country's finances? 

 

Did Labour in general make life better for the average Brit during their time ? Of course we're paying for the mistakes that government made but you make out like it was a isolated incident, like only England got themselves into it. It was a lesson for the world.

 

Iraq was a situation that any leader of the UK would have been pulled into by America regardless, it's easy to look on hind sight and see how terrible it's gone but who could have predicated that ?

But you cannot say that. Tony Blair was a confirmed liberal interventionist. Meaning that he was more willing that most to take Britain to war than previous PMs. Meaning that he was a neo-con. And he espoused these views in 1998 in Chicago, way before Bush got elected. He wasn't pulled in by Bush. He saw the Iraq war as a Just War and was as much for it as any neo-con in Washington. He knew the war was going to be unpopular. And he went to all that effort to sex up the intelligence. And hounded people who questioned the intelligence (Dr. Kelly, Andrew Gilligan etc.) He really believed in it. And he always said that history will be his judge. 

 

We haven't always been America's poodle. This has been a relatively new phenomenon. Even Thatcher and Reagan didn't get on all the time.  

 

But yes the country has gotten worse since Labour has been in power. By every standard. 

 

We have slipped down the league in global education standards. We have a worse healthcare system, despite all of the billions pumped in to these services. The gap between rich and poor widened to the widest levels under Labour. Manufacturing output declined by the highest levels under Labour, even much more that under Thatcher. under Labour we were more likely to be a victim of violent crime. And living standards have fallen across the board under Labour.  They have also bankrupted this country. 

 

Now the tories or the LDs may have done a lot worse or better. The point is that all of these political elites are  now more or less the same and do not give a flying f**k about you or the average man.

[Ulysses]

The Conservatives aren't fools though, they're calculated in their fuckery which is what disgusts me.

 

It's the arrogance of the cunts that really gets to me which is personified by Osborne and Cameron smugly grinning when being questioned on their failing policies which according to numerous political analysts and independent bodies were doomed to fail from the outset.

 

They're cunts. It amazes me they have the bare faced cheek to constantly berate the poorest people in the country for having a sense of entitlement when their whole party is populated by cunts who've seemingly got it ingrained into their psyche that coming from their background means they're entitled to take up some of the most senior roles in government.

 

How the fuck is George Osborne the chancellor when prior to this job his only experience of work was working part time doing data input and folding fucking towels at Selfridges?

 

They're cunts and I would happily box Cameron and Osborne square in the face because it's clear by watching them debate that reasoned logic means nothing to them.

 

Your assessment of Osborne may be fair. But what work experience did Brown, or Ed milliband or David Milliband or Ed balls have/ had? They have all never had jobs outside of politics. David and Ed milliband are both millionaires. David Milliband got into Oxford with BCC in his A-levels.

 

And remember they are the ones who got us into this mess. Despite Osborne not knowing what he is doing. Osborne plan is practically the same as the one Alistair Darling wanted to implement if Labour won the election. 

 

Don't be fooled into thinking that Ed Miliband won't be cutting budgets all across the board when he wins the next election. 

 

The country is genuinely f*cked. Living standards will continue to decline and we will never again see the levels of prosperity seen before the credit crunch.

[djbmc]

The 21st century and beyond will be shaped by nation states the size of continents, none of these will be Britain. Leaving the EU is the one of the dumbest, most xenophobic things i have ever heard.

[Gambino]

Make no mistake a dislike Conservatives, Lib Dem and Labour equally. I'm just saying regarding the cuts now or mass spending I would choose the cuts. Same way I would in my personally life. Debt isn't a good thing. I'm not on about just Non EU Migrants either. I'm talking about the EU ones flooding here too. Plus the ones that do work like the Polish will willingly do it for less money which fucks up the whole structure for everyone else. These Rich guys running the country love these foriegners coming here, it's cheaper labour for them to make the gap between wealthy and poor bigger.

[Ulysses]

The 21st century and beyond will be shaped by nation states the size of continents, none of these will be Britain. Leaving the EU is the one of the dumbest, most xenophobic things i have ever heard.

 

It's not xenophobic at all. What has it got to do with xenophobia? It's got nothing to do with hating foreigners at all. It's a question of whether we we believe in parliamentary democracy and national sovereignty.  It's a question of liberty. If i am not happy with Brussels.What can I do about it ? Absolutely nothing. If i hate David cameron then I will not vote for him in the next election. If the EU was just a free market area then fine. But it is not, and it was never intended to be anything other then a european superstate.

 

"The 21st century and beyond will be shaped by nation states the size of continents, none of these will be Britain." Said who? it would be better for us to be like Norway or switzerland, and be free and prosperous. Than to continue to act as if we were important and act in a self-aggrandizing way on the world stage. 

 

A question for you- Living standards are higher where? A) Norway and Switzerland or b  )China ? 

 

Isn't strange that for centuries British foreign policy has been concerned with stoping a hegemonic power from dominating Europe. (be it with King Phillip of Spain, the Dutch, Napoleon etc.) Isn't strange that we fought two world wars to stop germany from dominating Europe. But now we have a germany that basically runs europe and will ensure that we also become a vassal state if we continue to be in this wretched organisation.

[TF S4DK]

The problem is OUR benefit system versus capitalist interest.

 

But thats England in a nutshell.

[Flojo]

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[Flojo]

The Conservatives aren't fools though, they're calculated in their fuckery which is what disgusts me.

 

It's the arrogance of the cunts that really gets to me which is personified by Osborne and Cameron smugly grinning when being questioned on their failing policies which according to numerous political analysts and independent bodies were doomed to fail from the outset.

 

They're cunts. It amazes me they have the bare faced cheek to constantly berate the poorest people in the country for having a sense of entitlement when their whole party is populated by cunts who've seemingly got it ingrained into their psyche that coming from their background means they're entitled to take up some of the most senior roles in government.

 

How the fuck is George Osborne the chancellor when prior to this job his only experience of work was working part time doing data input and folding fucking towels at Selfridges?

 

They're cunts and I would happily box Cameron and Osborne square in the face because it's clear by watching them debate that reasoned logic means nothing to them.

 

Your assessment of Osborne may be fair. But what work experience did Brown, or Ed milliband or David Milliband or Ed balls have/ had? 

 

And remember they are the ones who got us into this mess. Despite Osborne not knowing what he is doing. Osborne plan is practically the same as the one Alistair Darling wanted to implement if Labour won the election. 

 

Don't be fooled in thinking that Ed Miliband won't be cutting budgets all across the board when he wins the next election. 

 

The country is genuinely f*cked. Living standards will continue to decline and we will never again see the levels of prosperity seen before the credit crunch.

 

It's not just the lack of work experience it's the sense of entitlement, Gordon Brown grafted to get where he got to so the two aren't comparable in that sense. When I listen to Osborne I almost always get the feeling he doesn't really give a fuck, like he's not arsed about how the things he's doing are actually affecting people.

 

I'm not under any illusions regarding cuts, some needed to be made but not to the extent of the hatchet job done by Cameron and his cronies.

 

The economy is fucked for some but very prosperous for others and the latter is who the Conservatives are more interested in catering to.

 

Anyone interested in how the economy got fucked up and why it may continue to be fucked should check out this series of videos that basically shows many Politicans and University lecturers don't even understand how the economy works.

 

 

[Gambino]

With all this stuff in mind who are you people actually going to vote for in the Elections? 

[Ulysses]

 

The Conservatives aren't fools though, they're calculated in their fuckery which is what disgusts me.

 

It's the arrogance of the cunts that really gets to me which is personified by Osborne and Cameron smugly grinning when being questioned on their failing policies which according to numerous political analysts and independent bodies were doomed to fail from the outset.

 

They're cunts. It amazes me they have the bare faced cheek to constantly berate the poorest people in the country for having a sense of entitlement when their whole party is populated by cunts who've seemingly got it ingrained into their psyche that coming from their background means they're entitled to take up some of the most senior roles in government.

 

How the fuck is George Osborne the chancellor when prior to this job his only experience of work was working part time doing data input and folding fucking towels at Selfridges?

 

They're cunts and I would happily box Cameron and Osborne square in the face because it's clear by watching them debate that reasoned logic means nothing to them.

 

Your assessment of Osborne may be fair. But what work experience did Brown, or Ed milliband or David Milliband or Ed balls have/ had? 

 

And remember they are the ones who got us into this mess. Despite Osborne not knowing what he is doing. Osborne plan is practically the same as the one Alistair Darling wanted to implement if Labour won the election. 

 

Don't be fooled in thinking that Ed Miliband won't be cutting budgets all across the board when he wins the next election. 

 

The country is genuinely f*cked. Living standards will continue to decline and we will never again see the levels of prosperity seen before the credit crunch.

 

It's not just the lack of work experience it's the sense of entitlement, Gordon Brown grafted to get where he got to so the two aren't comparable in that sense. When I listen to Osborne I almost always get the feeling he doesn't really give a fuck, like he's not arsed about how the things he's doing are actually affecting people.

 

I'm not under any illusions regarding cuts, some needed to be made but not to the extent of the hatchet job done by Cameron and his cronies.

 

The economy is fucked for some but very prosperous for others and the latter is who the Conservatives are more interested in catering to.

 

Anyone interested in how the economy got fucked up and why it may continue to be fucked should check out this series of videos that basically shows many Politicans and University lecturers don't even understand how the economy works.

 

 

 

Sorry but more and deeper cuts will have to made. This country is basically bankrupt.  State spending has actually increased under the Tories. They haven't made any serious cuts. 

 

Are you forgetting that the gap between rich and poor widened to the highest levels under labour. Are you forgetting that the Labour Party was the Party of Bernie ecclestone and the Hinduja Brothers, and of Mittal. Are you forgetting that The City and Brown had a great relationship, which was why the Tripartite System implemented by Brown failed, and was also the reason why regulation was so lax in the city. Most of the toxic sh*t that caused the financial crisis was traded out of London. New Labour was most certainly the party of big business, and they went out of their way to court big business.

 

So you're ok with Brown more because somehow he's more of 'a man of the people'. Even though he is one of the worst chancellors/ PMs ever and he got into this mess. Even though people who know him personally say that he is completely unhinged and do not have a nice word to say about him.

[djbmc]

The 21st century and beyond will be shaped by nation states the size of continents, none of these will be Britain. Leaving the EU is the one of the dumbest, most xenophobic things i have ever heard.

 

It's not xenophobic at all. What has it got to do with xenophobia? It's got nothing to do with hating foreigners at all. It's a question of whether we we believe in parliamentary democracy and national sovereignty.  It's a question of liberty. If i am not happy with Brussels.What can I do about it ? Absolutely nothing. - Vote for your MEP, in a system that's more democratic than our own If i hate David cameron then I will not vote for him in the next election. If the EU was just a free market area then fine. But it is not, and it was never intended to be anything other then a european superstate.

 

"The 21st century and beyond will be shaped by nation states the size of continents, none of these will be Britain." Said who? - Said USA, China and Brazil who all have larger economies than us, soon to be joined by India it would be better for us to be like Norway or switzerland, and be free and prosperous. Than to continue to act as if we were important and act in a self-aggrandizing way on the world stage. - both countries have to follow EU legislation if they want to trade with the single market yet get no say on its implementation, that's undemocratic is it not?

 

A question for you- Living standards are higher where? A) Norway and Switzerland or b  )China ? - A better question for you, whose are growing at a faster rate?

 

Isn't strange that for centuries British foreign policy has been concerned with stoping a hegemonic power from dominating Europe. (be it with King Phillip of Spain, the Dutch, Napoleon etc.) Isn't strange that we fought two world wars to stop germany from dominating Europe. But now we have a germany that basically runs europe and will ensure that we also become a vassal state if we continue to be in this wretched organisation. - This is what it comes down to, and here is your xenophobic reason, fear of the foreigner. Fear that a German might tell you what to do.

[Ulysses]

 

The 21st century and beyond will be shaped by nation states the size of continents, none of these will be Britain. Leaving the EU is the one of the dumbest, most xenophobic things i have ever heard.

 

It's not xenophobic at all. What has it got to do with xenophobia? It's got nothing to do with hating foreigners at all. It's a question of whether we we believe in parliamentary democracy and national sovereignty.  It's a question of liberty. If i am not happy with Brussels.What can I do about it ? Absolutely nothing. - Vote for your MEP, in a system that's more democratic than our own If i hate David cameron then I will not vote for him in the next election. If the EU was just a free market area then fine. But it is not, and it was never intended to be anything other then a european superstate.

 

"The 21st century and beyond will be shaped by nation states the size of continents, none of these will be Britain." Said who? - Said USA, China and Brazil who all have larger economies than us, soon to be joined by India it would be better for us to be like Norway or switzerland, and be free and prosperous. Than to continue to act as if we were important and act in a self-aggrandizing way on the world stage. - both countries have to follow EU legislation if they want to trade with the single market yet get no say on its implementation, that's undemocratic is it not?

 

A question for you- Living standards are higher where? A) Norway and Switzerland or b  )China ? - A better question for you, whose are growing at a faster rate?

 

Isn't strange that for centuries British foreign policy has been concerned with stoping a hegemonic power from dominating Europe. (be it with King Phillip of Spain, the Dutch, Napoleon etc.) Isn't strange that we fought two world wars to stop germany from dominating Europe. But now we have a germany that basically runs europe and will ensure that we also become a vassal state if we continue to be in this wretched organisation. - This is what it comes down to, and here is your xenophobic reason, fear of the foreigner. Fear that a German might tell you what to do.

Absolute nonsense. You obviously have no understanding of how the EU works. 

 

The European Parliament is just a deliberative body they are not a legislative body like at Westminster. All they do really is debate sh*t. They don't have any power. The European Commission is the executive body, they are the ones who decide sh*t. And they are not elected but appointed. And usually they are failed politicians. 

 

Stop thinking about economies in that way of course China, India and Brazil will have bigger economies. The UK has a population of 60 m. Brazil nearly 300m and china over a billion. What is important is GDP PER CAPITA. In that sense we are a lot wealthier than both countries. The average person has a much better standard of living than in China or brazil. 

 

It doesn't matter what country is growing at a faster rate. Ethiopia's economy is growing at a faster rate than the UK's it doesn't mean a thing. When you start from a lower level and have plenty of spare capacity of course you will grow at a higher rate.  

 

"This is what it comes down to, and here is your xenophobic reason, fear of the foreigner. Fear that a German might tell you what to do." you are just being silly. Why wouldn't anyone want their country to independent and free from external influence? Are Iraqis or Afghans xenophobic? 

[Gambino]

Should have a Political Topic permanently on here. Not just for the UK and Europe but for all News around the World regarding. Like China sending out warnings to Australia recently about not backing the USA in their Japan troubles.

[Flojo]

 

 

The Conservatives aren't fools though, they're calculated in their fuckery which is what disgusts me.

 

It's the arrogance of the cunts that really gets to me which is personified by Osborne and Cameron smugly grinning when being questioned on their failing policies which according to numerous political analysts and independent bodies were doomed to fail from the outset.

 

They're cunts. It amazes me they have the bare faced cheek to constantly berate the poorest people in the country for having a sense of entitlement when their whole party is populated by cunts who've seemingly got it ingrained into their psyche that coming from their background means they're entitled to take up some of the most senior roles in government.

 

How the fuck is George Osborne the chancellor when prior to this job his only experience of work was working part time doing data input and folding fucking towels at Selfridges?

 

They're cunts and I would happily box Cameron and Osborne square in the face because it's clear by watching them debate that reasoned logic means nothing to them.

 

Your assessment of Osborne may be fair. But what work experience did Brown, or Ed milliband or David Milliband or Ed balls have/ had? 

 

And remember they are the ones who got us into this mess. Despite Osborne not knowing what he is doing. Osborne plan is practically the same as the one Alistair Darling wanted to implement if Labour won the election. 

 

Don't be fooled in thinking that Ed Miliband won't be cutting budgets all across the board when he wins the next election. 

 

The country is genuinely f*cked. Living standards will continue to decline and we will never again see the levels of prosperity seen before the credit crunch.

 

It's not just the lack of work experience it's the sense of entitlement, Gordon Brown grafted to get where he got to so the two aren't comparable in that sense. When I listen to Osborne I almost always get the feeling he doesn't really give a fuck, like he's not arsed about how the things he's doing are actually affecting people.

 

I'm not under any illusions regarding cuts, some needed to be made but not to the extent of the hatchet job done by Cameron and his cronies.

 

The economy is fucked for some but very prosperous for others and the latter is who the Conservatives are more interested in catering to.

 

Anyone interested in how the economy got fucked up and why it may continue to be fucked should check out this series of videos that basically shows many Politicans and University lecturers don't even understand how the economy works.

 

 

 

Sorry but more and deeper cuts will have to made. This country is basically bankrupt.  State spending has actually increased under the Tories. They haven't made any serious cuts. 

 

Are you forgetting that the gap between rich and poor widened to the highest levels under labour. Are you forgetting that the Labour Party was the Party of Bernie ecclestone and the Hinduja Brothers, and of Mittal. Are you forgetting that The City and Brown had a great relationship, which was why the Tripartite System implemented by Brown failed, and was also the reason why regulation was so lax in the city. Most of the toxic sh*t that caused the financial crisis was traded out of London. New Labour was most certainly the party of big business, and they went out of their way to court big business.

 

So you're ok with Brown more because somehow he's more of 'a man of the people'. Even though he is one of the worst chancellors/ PMs ever and he got into this mess. Even though people who know him personally say that he is completely unhinged and do not have a nice word to say about him.

 

You seem to be burdening Brown with the fallout of a global crisis and perceiving me as someone who is against the super rich when that's not it. How is being the party of Bernie Ecclestone some sort of smear? He is a self made man who grafted to get where he is today so all credit to him.

 

I've mentioned it in every post so far but you seem to be missing it, my problem is the sense of entitlement pricks like Cameron and Osborne have whilst berating others for having it to a much lesser extent. The reason I despise typical Tories is because they cater for their own which is all well and good in certain circumstances but not when you're role is to cater for the masses. 

 

They bang on with this rhetoric about hard work being rewarded yet half of these cunts have a bigger sense of entitlement than every dole dosser in the country combined - a dole dosser's sense of entitlement extends to having enough money to wear name brand clothes and watch Sky TV whereas a Tories' sense of entitlement extends to being amongst the most influential people in the country.

 

How does a fuckwit who's experience of real work extends to folding towels in Selfridges for 1 week and doing data input part time have the audacity to tell people who are working their arse off and still struggling to get by on a week to week basis that they need to work harder? His policies are purposely aimed at fucking over the majority of people and no matter what you say I don't believe that was the case with Labour.

 

So far all he's done is beat on the people who can least afford it and masked it by painting a picture of benefit cheats being the scum of the earth who epitomise what's wrong with modern Britain. This d*ckhead government are pushing this rhetoric whilst giving companies with huge profits like Tesco free labour, imagine you're on the dole being told if you don't go to stack shelves for free they will cut off your benefits. It's disgusting but it's indicative of how they view the poor, as minions who's only purpose is to prop up the living standards of the rich. 

 

As for constantly pointing the finger at the previous Government, the expiry date for doing that has passed. This government are now being judged on their policies, on the predictions that they made and ultimately on their failures. They were told that their economic policies would do more damage than good by almost every independent body yet still insisted on going ahead which proved to be a mistake.

 

for all Labour's mistakes I think they believe in and support social mobility which is evident by the policies they introduced like EMA, the way they made university accessible to more people and the funding they pumped into assisting people with starting their own businesses all of which have been pretty much abandoned by these pricks in government. 

 

These Tory pricks want you to die as you were born - ie you came as a working class person and you'll die as one to prop up our standards of living and they have the audacity to say 'We're All in it together'

 

So yeah fuck them man.

[stacksbranning]

Dont give  a shit