Elementalism Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Just gonna get into it, had a thought while arguing with a Youtube atheist and think it it quite interesting. VIP2, simply put, are sperm and eggs conscious? Do you think that consciousness must have existed on a micro level, for consciousness to exist on a macro level (the newborn human)? Anyone ever thought about it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtis Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 the sperm swims init? so there must be something in it to make it swim but i didnt really pay attention in sex ed bar watchin the video, so i may be chatting shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquilax Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Conscious in what way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarltonLeach Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 To be concious you have to be able to think, to be able to think you need a mind and brain. Does a sperm have a mind or brain? Me think not. I think sperm is just a reflex action 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yung bawse Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 think you chose the wrong word in 'conscious'.. most animals do some amazing things but most would argue they haven't got a conscious, just instincts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOCK Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 i doubt the sperms have sense of awareness, i think they posess more of an energy related form which is given by the creator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalism Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 To be concious you have to be able to think, to be able to think you need a mind and brain. Does a sperm have a mind or brain? Me think not. I think sperm is just a reflex action That's a pretty base assumption. Just because your consciousness is a result of a 'mind' (which you'd be hard pushed to define)/brain function, what makes you so sure that consciousness is definitely only ever a result of one or both of those things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalism Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 think you chose the wrong word in 'conscious'.. most animals do some amazing things but most would argue they haven't got a conscious, just instincts You don't think animals are conscious?? Bruv, do you watch Attenborough? I thought everybody knew animals were conscious, what the fuck? I think you are confused. We are the sentient consciousness in our environment (we think), but we are not the only consciousness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarltonLeach Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Bruv, what do you think our Neurons are for. Go and read up on Neurology then come back to this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquilax Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Sperm and eggs don't have what we would classify as a consciousness, no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PROFIT MARGINS Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 think you chose the wrong word in 'conscious'.. most animals do some amazing things but most would argue they haven't got a conscious, just instincts You don't think animals are conscious?? Bruv, do you watch Attenborough? I thought everybody knew animals were conscious, what the fuck? I think you are confused. We are the sentient consciousness in our environment (we think), but we are not the only consciousness. c/s but I think what he said about animals actually applies to the sperm they don't have a consiousness they just had instinct or an attraction to the egg and as far as I know the egg doesn't have one either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalism Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 d/p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarltonLeach Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'm studying psychology, I know more than you about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Dunno about yours, I got that super sperm. Matrix Sentinal ting. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalism Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'm studying psychology, I know more than you about this. Stop projecting your ego onto the situation. The world is more complex than the eye of a human can comprehend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarltonLeach Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 You're stoned and I'm leaving this thread. Goodnight. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalism Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 You're stoned and I'm leaving this thread. Goodnight. Act like the scientists down at CERN aren't scratching their heads and feeling ever so human and stupid right now... You don't know what a neuron is doing just because you study psychology brah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizouz Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 You're stoned and I'm leaving this thread. Goodnight. Act like the scientists down at CERN aren't scratching their heads and feeling ever so human and stupid right now... You don't know what a neuron is doing just because you study psychology brah. but that's science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquilax Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 You're stoned and I'm leaving this thread. Goodnight. Act like the scientists down at CERN aren't scratching their heads and feeling ever so human and stupid right now... You don't know what a neuron is doing just because you study psychology brah. ACTUALLY... http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/nov/18/higgs-boson-moment-truth-lhc It's so easy to say 'we're mere humans we can't know it all' than to go out and try and find it out like the people at CERN are doing Your question isn't deep it's retarded to anyone who has completed compulsory education 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermalt Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 lol @ esq winning this on page 1 elemental go and lie down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalism Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 You're stoned and I'm leaving this thread. Goodnight. Act like the scientists down at CERN aren't scratching their heads and feeling ever so human and stupid right now... You don't know what a neuron is doing just because you study psychology brah. ACTUALLY... http://www.guardian....oment-truth-lhc It's so easy to say 'we're mere humans we can't know it all' than to go out and try and find it out like the people at CERN are doing Your question isn't deep it's retarded to anyone who has completed compulsory education So science isn't attempting to answer the question of where consciousness comes from? You're stoned and I'm leaving this thread. Goodnight. Act like the scientists down at CERN aren't scratching their heads and feeling ever so human and stupid right now... You don't know what a neuron is doing just because you study psychology brah. ACTUALLY... http://www.guardian....oment-truth-lhc It's so easy to say 'we're mere humans we can't know it all' than to go out and try and find it out like the people at CERN are doing Your question isn't deep it's retarded to anyone who has completed compulsory education You're a trolly little c*nt aren't you. I am not criticizing science, I am point out that so far the search for consciousness has been fruitless. Just as fruitless as the search for the Higgs Boson. Apparently you've bust a few nuts and cracked out your microscope a long time ago, as this question is clearly an easy one for you. Enlighten me more, Jizzy Buddha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 They may be conscious but it isn't an intelligent consciousness where they are able to perceive their surroundings and make independent choices. On the same note, why do humans long term memory only go back to 2/3 years old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizouz Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 brain development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 You're stoned and I'm leaving this thread. Goodnight. Act like the scientists down at CERN aren't scratching their heads and feeling ever so human and stupid right now... You don't know what a neuron is doing just because you study psychology brah. but that's science http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dTvSa1rCOY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquilax Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 What the fuck are you talking about 'the search for consciousness has been fruitless'? Sperm are cells, they possess no nervous system, they cannot see, hear, taste, touch or smell, they have no concept of time and therefore no reference points, how could they ever conceivably be conscious? Why search for something that is quite obviously not there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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