Ken Livingstone has gone crazy

[Gunner]

Dont ever think i think everything black is good and everything white is bad, but id like i fair chance to find out what i need to find out.

[Ashman.]

Dont ever think i think everything black is good and everything white is bad, but id like i fair chance to find out what i need to find out.

Fair play to you.Maybe you should understand that I too may like the same chance to find out what I need to find out and not everything white is good and not everything black is bad.

[Natalie]

blacks >>>>_____

This is what I meanOther way round it would be "you're racist"

Ash why do you fall for these traps.Hes obv doin it do get a reaction.

[Ashman.]

blacks >>>>_____

This is what I meanOther way round it would be "you're racist"

Ash why do you fall for these traps.Hes obv doin it do get a reaction.

Are we talking about Radio Raheem here?or are we talking about KEN LIVINGSTON.Because either way, who ever is pulling the strings? it is sure working.

[Gunner]

you kno what the thing sis every ones the same coz were all HUMAN!!!!people are always trying to make us split apart, by sayin 1 religion is beter that another, by saying your white you shouldnt be with a black man, you asian u should be wich a indian person....WTF!!!!even one has skin bones and flesh and blood, wee are all made up the same, were we grew up from affected our skin colour....we now have intelligence and knowledge....and bk then people didnt....and to now be continuing a grudge is silly, bcoz if u actuly look aroud you, you will see differnt coltures embrace each other every day....WE SHUD BE ROWING OVER SOMTHING FROM THE PAST WE NEED 2 EMBRASE THE FUTURE...IN A UNITED FRONT!

iTS ALL GOOD SAYING THIS, SOUNDS NICE. bUT THE REALITY IS THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.How many people have said this, its easy saying that when your in a comfortible position. We cannot move to equality unless everyone has equal opportunities in everything AND IN THIS CASE WE ANT THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF LEARNING ABOUT OUR HISTORY.BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH SINCE DAY DOT, YET WE ARE TOLD ONLY OF WHAT HAPPENED SINCE THE EUROPEEANS ARRIVED IN AFRICA SOME 500 ODD YEARS AGO, WHILST THE GREEK LEANR ABOUT THEIR GODS AND ZEUS ETC from way back, since the SANISH LEANR ABOUT X,Y,Z FROM WHAY BACK, SINCE THE ENGLISH LEARN ABOUT HENRY 8TH, ROMANS VIKINGS AND WHOEVER FROM WAY BACKOH and in 14xx Cristopher cloumbus discovered the WEST INDIES liek they wernt there BEFORE, oh and EUROPEANS CAME TO AFRICA ONE DAY AND PACKED ALL THE BLACKS IN A SHIP LIKE SARDINES AND SHIPPED THEM TO THE AMERICAS (SOUTH AND NORTH) AND CARRIBBEAN TO WORK IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS CALLING THEM NAMES LIKE NIGGER ETC STEALING AND WHIPING THEIR HISTORY. you get my point..?

BUT THAT IS YOUR OWN FAULTS...We cannot know what happened before we arrived.. shall we just make up a story of how you arrived here?IT'S DOWN TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE TO FIND THE TRUTHS AND TEACH YOUR PEOPLES OH WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE..EVEN I WOUL BE INTERESTED TO KNOW!You rely on white people to teach you for things we can only account for since the day we found you!

No white people (collective term) came and abolished, eradicated most aspects of black history.How can (black)people in America find out about peoples in Africa all them years ago (slave times ) if they are separeted? withing time the links becaome smaller and smaller untill their are none left.Its all our fault that white people wanted to act inhumane toward blacks ?Im not saying white people should teach us about ourselves, but your saying you want equality and fairness, so why is it that white eople painted a distorted and untrue picture of black people then, whats the motives for that?Look what Jews have got, they have the state of Isreal, if you say the holocust never happened you can get put in jail in certian places. holocust happened over how many years5-10 absolute max, in A small section of europe, not trans american slavery was goin on for 100ys of years, imagine how many people died, and yet some people wanna say its OUR fault. WAS it the jews fault, Hitler was racist and mad?

[Gunner]

Dont ever think i think everything black is good and everything white is bad, but id like i fair chance to find out what i need to find out.

Fair play to you.Maybe you should understand that I too may like the same chance to find out what I need to find out and not everything white is good and not everything black is bad.

yes and you have more opportunity to do so. all im saying is we should have more opportunity to do so also. if you really want equality.

[Ashman.]

you kno what the thing sis every ones the same coz were all HUMAN!!!!people are always trying to make us split apart, by sayin 1 religion is beter that another, by saying your white you shouldnt be with a black man, you asian u should be wich a indian person....WTF!!!!even one has skin bones and flesh and blood, wee are all made up the same, were we grew up from affected our skin colour....we now have intelligence and knowledge....and bk then people didnt....and to now be continuing a grudge is silly, bcoz if u actuly look aroud you, you will see differnt coltures embrace each other every day....WE SHUD BE ROWING OVER SOMTHING FROM THE PAST WE NEED 2 EMBRASE THE FUTURE...IN A UNITED FRONT!

iTS ALL GOOD SAYING THIS, SOUNDS NICE. bUT THE REALITY IS THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.How many people have said this, its easy saying that when your in a comfortible position. We cannot move to equality unless everyone has equal opportunities in everything AND IN THIS CASE WE ANT THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF LEARNING ABOUT OUR HISTORY.BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH SINCE DAY DOT, YET WE ARE TOLD ONLY OF WHAT HAPPENED SINCE THE EUROPEEANS ARRIVED IN AFRICA SOME 500 ODD YEARS AGO, WHILST THE GREEK LEANR ABOUT THEIR GODS AND ZEUS ETC from way back, since the SANISH LEANR ABOUT X,Y,Z FROM WHAY BACK, SINCE THE ENGLISH LEARN ABOUT HENRY 8TH, ROMANS VIKINGS AND WHOEVER FROM WAY BACKOH and in 14xx Cristopher cloumbus discovered the WEST INDIES liek they wernt there BEFORE, oh and EUROPEANS CAME TO AFRICA ONE DAY AND PACKED ALL THE BLACKS IN A SHIP LIKE SARDINES AND SHIPPED THEM TO THE AMERICAS (SOUTH AND NORTH) AND CARRIBBEAN TO WORK IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS CALLING THEM NAMES LIKE NIGGER ETC STEALING AND WHIPING THEIR HISTORY. you get my point..?

BUT THAT IS YOUR OWN FAULTS...We cannot know what happened before we arrived.. shall we just make up a story of how you arrived here?IT'S DOWN TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE TO FIND THE TRUTHS AND TEACH YOUR PEOPLES OH WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE..EVEN I WOUL BE INTERESTED TO KNOW!You rely on white people to teach you for things we can only account for since the day we found you!

No white people (collective term) came and abolished, eradicated most aspects of black history.How can (black)people in America find out about peoples in Africa all them years ago (slave times ) if they are separeted? withing time the links becaome smaller and smaller untill their are none left.Its all our fault that white people wanted to act inhumane toward blacks ?Im not saying white people should teach us about ourselves, but your saying you want equality and fairness, so why is it that white eople painted a distorted and untrue picture of black people then, whats the motives for that?Look what Jews have got, they have the state of Isreal, if you say the holocust never happened you can get put in jail in certian places. holocust happened over how many years5-10 absolute max, in A small section of europe, not trans american slavery was goin on for 100ys of years, imagine how many people died, and yet some people wanna say its OUR fault. WAS it the jews fault, Hitler was racist and mad?

When white people were BUYING slaves from BLACK people in guana I think it was, who was we paying?Do you think we was buying slaves from white people to start with?

[The King]

in notts its the complete reversebarely any white black cab drivers. all ethnic.

[Gunner]

you kno what the thing sis every ones the same coz were all HUMAN!!!!people are always trying to make us split apart, by sayin 1 religion is beter that another, by saying your white you shouldnt be with a black man, you asian u should be wich a indian person....WTF!!!!even one has skin bones and flesh and blood, wee are all made up the same, were we grew up from affected our skin colour....we now have intelligence and knowledge....and bk then people didnt....and to now be continuing a grudge is silly, bcoz if u actuly look aroud you, you will see differnt coltures embrace each other every day....WE SHUD BE ROWING OVER SOMTHING FROM THE PAST WE NEED 2 EMBRASE THE FUTURE...IN A UNITED FRONT!

iTS ALL GOOD SAYING THIS, SOUNDS NICE. bUT THE REALITY IS THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.How many people have said this, its easy saying that when your in a comfortible position. We cannot move to equality unless everyone has equal opportunities in everything AND IN THIS CASE WE ANT THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF LEARNING ABOUT OUR HISTORY.BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH SINCE DAY DOT, YET WE ARE TOLD ONLY OF WHAT HAPPENED SINCE THE EUROPEEANS ARRIVED IN AFRICA SOME 500 ODD YEARS AGO, WHILST THE GREEK LEANR ABOUT THEIR GODS AND ZEUS ETC from way back, since the SANISH LEANR ABOUT X,Y,Z FROM WHAY BACK, SINCE THE ENGLISH LEARN ABOUT HENRY 8TH, ROMANS VIKINGS AND WHOEVER FROM WAY BACKOH and in 14xx Cristopher cloumbus discovered the WEST INDIES liek they wernt there BEFORE, oh and EUROPEANS CAME TO AFRICA ONE DAY AND PACKED ALL THE BLACKS IN A SHIP LIKE SARDINES AND SHIPPED THEM TO THE AMERICAS (SOUTH AND NORTH) AND CARRIBBEAN TO WORK IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS CALLING THEM NAMES LIKE NIGGER ETC STEALING AND WHIPING THEIR HISTORY. you get my point..?

BUT THAT IS YOUR OWN FAULTS...We cannot know what happened before we arrived.. shall we just make up a story of how you arrived here?IT'S DOWN TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE TO FIND THE TRUTHS AND TEACH YOUR PEOPLES OH WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE..EVEN I WOUL BE INTERESTED TO KNOW!You rely on white people to teach you for things we can only account for since the day we found you!

No white people (collective term) came and abolished, eradicated most aspects of black history.How can (black)people in America find out about peoples in Africa all them years ago (slave times ) if they are separeted? withing time the links becaome smaller and smaller untill their are none left.Its all our fault that white people wanted to act inhumane toward blacks ?Im not saying white people should teach us about ourselves, but your saying you want equality and fairness, so why is it that white eople painted a distorted and untrue picture of black people then, whats the motives for that?Look what Jews have got, they have the state of Isreal, if you say the holocust never happened you can get put in jail in certian places. holocust happened over how many years5-10 absolute max, in A small section of europe, not trans american slavery was goin on for 100ys of years, imagine how many people died, and yet some people wanna say its OUR fault. WAS it the jews fault, Hitler was racist and mad?

When white people were BUYING slaves from BLACK people in guana I think it was, who was we paying?Do you think we was buying slaves from white people to start with?

And if you really think that you 'bought' ll them slaves fairly and whatever then thats you.But there is more to transatlantic slave trade than what happened in AfricaDont forgetThe ship journey their, the condidtions, America, everything that happed there, to what still happens now.life AS a slave.

[Ashman.]

Dont ever think i think everything black is good and everything white is bad, but id like i fair chance to find out what i need to find out.

Fair play to you.Maybe you should understand that I too may like the same chance to find out what I need to find out and not everything white is good and not everything black is bad.

yes and you have more opportunity to do so. all im saying is we should have more opportunity to do so also. if you really want equality.

How do I have more opputunity to do so?This is what pisses me off.There is a library in Lewisham college..Meet me there and we will look in there for books that will show us the past.Lets see who can gather most information about there own people.IF PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO BE EDUCATED, IF PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO READ OR RESEARCH, DO NOT BLAME THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESEARCHING AND FINDING TIME TO READ.ALL IT TAKES IS 1 EDUCATED PERSON TO PASS THE SKILLS ON.. THATS ALL. OUT OF THE BILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE EARTH.1 EDUCATED PERSON CAN SHOW ILLITERATE PEOPLE HOW TO READ AND WRITE IF THEY WANT TO LEARN.

[Ashman.]

you kno what the thing sis every ones the same coz were all HUMAN!!!!people are always trying to make us split apart, by sayin 1 religion is beter that another, by saying your white you shouldnt be with a black man, you asian u should be wich a indian person....WTF!!!!even one has skin bones and flesh and blood, wee are all made up the same, were we grew up from affected our skin colour....we now have intelligence and knowledge....and bk then people didnt....and to now be continuing a grudge is silly, bcoz if u actuly look aroud you, you will see differnt coltures embrace each other every day....WE SHUD BE ROWING OVER SOMTHING FROM THE PAST WE NEED 2 EMBRASE THE FUTURE...IN A UNITED FRONT!

iTS ALL GOOD SAYING THIS, SOUNDS NICE. bUT THE REALITY IS THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.How many people have said this, its easy saying that when your in a comfortible position. We cannot move to equality unless everyone has equal opportunities in everything AND IN THIS CASE WE ANT THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF LEARNING ABOUT OUR HISTORY.BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH SINCE DAY DOT, YET WE ARE TOLD ONLY OF WHAT HAPPENED SINCE THE EUROPEEANS ARRIVED IN AFRICA SOME 500 ODD YEARS AGO, WHILST THE GREEK LEANR ABOUT THEIR GODS AND ZEUS ETC from way back, since the SANISH LEANR ABOUT X,Y,Z FROM WHAY BACK, SINCE THE ENGLISH LEARN ABOUT HENRY 8TH, ROMANS VIKINGS AND WHOEVER FROM WAY BACKOH and in 14xx Cristopher cloumbus discovered the WEST INDIES liek they wernt there BEFORE, oh and EUROPEANS CAME TO AFRICA ONE DAY AND PACKED ALL THE BLACKS IN A SHIP LIKE SARDINES AND SHIPPED THEM TO THE AMERICAS (SOUTH AND NORTH) AND CARRIBBEAN TO WORK IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS CALLING THEM NAMES LIKE NIGGER ETC STEALING AND WHIPING THEIR HISTORY. you get my point..?

BUT THAT IS YOUR OWN FAULTS...We cannot know what happened before we arrived.. shall we just make up a story of how you arrived here?IT'S DOWN TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE TO FIND THE TRUTHS AND TEACH YOUR PEOPLES OH WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE..EVEN I WOUL BE INTERESTED TO KNOW!You rely on white people to teach you for things we can only account for since the day we found you!

No white people (collective term) came and abolished, eradicated most aspects of black history.How can (black)people in America find out about peoples in Africa all them years ago (slave times ) if they are separeted? withing time the links becaome smaller and smaller untill their are none left.Its all our fault that white people wanted to act inhumane toward blacks ?Im not saying white people should teach us about ourselves, but your saying you want equality and fairness, so why is it that white eople painted a distorted and untrue picture of black people then, whats the motives for that?Look what Jews have got, they have the state of Isreal, if you say the holocust never happened you can get put in jail in certian places. holocust happened over how many years5-10 absolute max, in A small section of europe, not trans american slavery was goin on for 100ys of years, imagine how many people died, and yet some people wanna say its OUR fault. WAS it the jews fault, Hitler was racist and mad?

When white people were BUYING slaves from BLACK people in guana I think it was, who was we paying?Do you think we was buying slaves from white people to start with?

And if you really think that you 'bought' ll them slaves fairly and whatever then thats you.But there is more to transatlantic slave trade than what happened in AfricaDont forgetThe ship journey their, the condidtions, America, everything that happed there, to what still happens now.life AS a slave.

Hey I totally agree with what you're saying. The beatings, the rapes, the inhumane treatment etc.I hear what you're saying. I am not saying that is right. I am saying don't blame white people for everything because sometimes a person or a race can be there own downfall at times for letting things happen or inventing things that may come back to haunt you. Did you not ask where was the rest of the world when you was being enslaved and oppressed?Did you not think where was the chinese? where was the Jews? where was everyone ele the whole time?Don't just blame white people.

[Sole]

you kno what the thing sis every ones the same coz were all HUMAN!!!!people are always trying to make us split apart, by sayin 1 religion is beter that another, by saying your white you shouldnt be with a black man, you asian u should be wich a indian person....WTF!!!!even one has skin bones and flesh and blood, wee are all made up the same, were we grew up from affected our skin colour....we now have intelligence and knowledge....and bk then people didnt....and to now be continuing a grudge is silly, bcoz if u actuly look aroud you, you will see differnt coltures embrace each other every day....WE SHUD BE ROWING OVER SOMTHING FROM THE PAST WE NEED 2 EMBRASE THE FUTURE...IN A UNITED FRONT!

iTS ALL GOOD SAYING THIS, SOUNDS NICE. bUT THE REALITY IS THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.How many people have said this, its easy saying that when your in a comfortible position. We cannot move to equality unless everyone has equal opportunities in everything AND IN THIS CASE WE ANT THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF LEARNING ABOUT OUR HISTORY.BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH SINCE DAY DOT, YET WE ARE TOLD ONLY OF WHAT HAPPENED SINCE THE EUROPEEANS ARRIVED IN AFRICA SOME 500 ODD YEARS AGO, WHILST THE GREEK LEANR ABOUT THEIR GODS AND ZEUS ETC from way back, since the SANISH LEANR ABOUT X,Y,Z FROM WHAY BACK, SINCE THE ENGLISH LEARN ABOUT HENRY 8TH, ROMANS VIKINGS AND WHOEVER FROM WAY BACKOH and in 14xx Cristopher cloumbus discovered the WEST INDIES liek they wernt there BEFORE, oh and EUROPEANS CAME TO AFRICA ONE DAY AND PACKED ALL THE BLACKS IN A SHIP LIKE SARDINES AND SHIPPED THEM TO THE AMERICAS (SOUTH AND NORTH) AND CARRIBBEAN TO WORK IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS CALLING THEM NAMES LIKE NIGGER ETC STEALING AND WHIPING THEIR HISTORY. you get my point..?

BUT THAT IS YOUR OWN FAULTS...We cannot know what happened before we arrived.. shall we just make up a story of how you arrived here?IT'S DOWN TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE TO FIND THE TRUTHS AND TEACH YOUR PEOPLES OH WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE..EVEN I WOUL BE INTERESTED TO KNOW!You rely on white people to teach you for things we can only account for since the day we found you!

No white people (collective term) came and abolished, eradicated most aspects of black history.How can (black)people in America find out about peoples in Africa all them years ago (slave times ) if they are separeted? withing time the links becaome smaller and smaller untill their are none left.Its all our fault that white people wanted to act inhumane toward blacks ?Im not saying white people should teach us about ourselves, but your saying you want equality and fairness, so why is it that white eople painted a distorted and untrue picture of black people then, whats the motives for that?Look what Jews have got, they have the state of Isreal, if you say the holocust never happened you can get put in jail in certian places. holocust happened over how many years5-10 absolute max, in A small section of europe, not trans american slavery was goin on for 100ys of years, imagine how many people died, and yet some people wanna say its OUR fault. WAS it the jews fault, Hitler was racist and mad?

When white people were BUYING slaves from BLACK people in guana I think it was, who was we paying?Do you think we was buying slaves from white people to start with?

And if you really think that you 'bought' ll them slaves fairly and whatever then thats you.But there is more to transatlantic slave trade than what happened in AfricaDont forgetThe ship journey their, the condidtions, America, everything that happed there, to what still happens now.life AS a slave.

Hey I totally agree with what you're saying. The beatings, the rapes, the inhumane treatment etc.I hear what you're saying. I am not saying that is right. I am saying don't blame white people for everything because sometimes a person or a race can be there own downfall at times for letting things happen or inventing things that may come back to haunt you. Did you not ask where was the rest of the world when you was being enslaved and oppressed?Did you not think where was the chinese? where was the Jews? where was everyone ele the whole time?Don't just blame white people.

evrything happens for a reason...certain people wouldnt be here on this forum if it wernt for the slave trade.

[Ashman.]

you kno what the thing sis every ones the same coz were all HUMAN!!!!people are always trying to make us split apart, by sayin 1 religion is beter that another, by saying your white you shouldnt be with a black man, you asian u should be wich a indian person....WTF!!!!even one has skin bones and flesh and blood, wee are all made up the same, were we grew up from affected our skin colour....we now have intelligence and knowledge....and bk then people didnt....and to now be continuing a grudge is silly, bcoz if u actuly look aroud you, you will see differnt coltures embrace each other every day....WE SHUD BE ROWING OVER SOMTHING FROM THE PAST WE NEED 2 EMBRASE THE FUTURE...IN A UNITED FRONT!

iTS ALL GOOD SAYING THIS, SOUNDS NICE. bUT THE REALITY IS THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.How many people have said this, its easy saying that when your in a comfortible position. We cannot move to equality unless everyone has equal opportunities in everything AND IN THIS CASE WE ANT THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF LEARNING ABOUT OUR HISTORY.BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH SINCE DAY DOT, YET WE ARE TOLD ONLY OF WHAT HAPPENED SINCE THE EUROPEEANS ARRIVED IN AFRICA SOME 500 ODD YEARS AGO, WHILST THE GREEK LEANR ABOUT THEIR GODS AND ZEUS ETC from way back, since the SANISH LEANR ABOUT X,Y,Z FROM WHAY BACK, SINCE THE ENGLISH LEARN ABOUT HENRY 8TH, ROMANS VIKINGS AND WHOEVER FROM WAY BACKOH and in 14xx Cristopher cloumbus discovered the WEST INDIES liek they wernt there BEFORE, oh and EUROPEANS CAME TO AFRICA ONE DAY AND PACKED ALL THE BLACKS IN A SHIP LIKE SARDINES AND SHIPPED THEM TO THE AMERICAS (SOUTH AND NORTH) AND CARRIBBEAN TO WORK IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS CALLING THEM NAMES LIKE NIGGER ETC STEALING AND WHIPING THEIR HISTORY. you get my point..?

BUT THAT IS YOUR OWN FAULTS...We cannot know what happened before we arrived.. shall we just make up a story of how you arrived here?IT'S DOWN TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE TO FIND THE TRUTHS AND TEACH YOUR PEOPLES OH WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE..EVEN I WOUL BE INTERESTED TO KNOW!You rely on white people to teach you for things we can only account for since the day we found you!

No white people (collective term) came and abolished, eradicated most aspects of black history.How can (black)people in America find out about peoples in Africa all them years ago (slave times ) if they are separeted? withing time the links becaome smaller and smaller untill their are none left.Its all our fault that white people wanted to act inhumane toward blacks ?Im not saying white people should teach us about ourselves, but your saying you want equality and fairness, so why is it that white eople painted a distorted and untrue picture of black people then, whats the motives for that?Look what Jews have got, they have the state of Isreal, if you say the holocust never happened you can get put in jail in certian places. holocust happened over how many years5-10 absolute max, in A small section of europe, not trans american slavery was goin on for 100ys of years, imagine how many people died, and yet some people wanna say its OUR fault. WAS it the jews fault, Hitler was racist and mad?

When white people were BUYING slaves from BLACK people in guana I think it was, who was we paying?Do you think we was buying slaves from white people to start with?

And if you really think that you 'bought' ll them slaves fairly and whatever then thats you.But there is more to transatlantic slave trade than what happened in AfricaDont forgetThe ship journey their, the condidtions, America, everything that happed there, to what still happens now.life AS a slave.

Hey I totally agree with what you're saying. The beatings, the rapes, the inhumane treatment etc.I hear what you're saying. I am not saying that is right. I am saying don't blame white people for everything because sometimes a person or a race can be there own downfall at times for letting things happen or inventing things that may come back to haunt you. Did you not ask where was the rest of the world when you was being enslaved and oppressed?Did you not think where was the chinese? where was the Jews? where was everyone ele the whole time?Don't just blame white people.

evrything happens for a reason...certain people wouldnt be here on this forum if it wernt for the slave trade.

as bad as it sounds, it's true.Jamicia would not be embraced as the home of black people.There would be no bob marley etc.I know it is bad to say but sometimes bad things happen to create more good openings.

[Gunner]

Dont ever think i think everything black is good and everything white is bad, but id like i fair chance to find out what i need to find out.

Fair play to you.Maybe you should understand that I too may like the same chance to find out what I need to find out and not everything white is good and not everything black is bad.

yes and you have more opportunity to do so. all im saying is we should have more opportunity to do so also. if you really want equality.

How do I have more opputunity to do so?This is what pisses me off.There is a library in Lewisham college..Meet me there and we will look in there for books that will show us the past.Lets see who can gather most information about there own people.IF PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO BE EDUCATED, IF PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO READ OR RESEARCH, DO NOT BLAME THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESEARCHING AND FINDING TIME TO READ.ALL IT TAKES IS 1 EDUCATED PERSON TO PASS THE SKILLS ON.. THATS ALL. OUT OF THE BILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE EARTH.1 EDUCATED PERSON CAN SHOW ILLITERATE PEOPLE HOW TO READ AND WRITE IF THEY WANT TO LEARN.

THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT THE MINDSET, which is a irect conditioning and respult of slavery, black peoples and white peoples fault.Yea i can go lewisham library, most them books would have been written by white people. Probably less than 5 of books on none white history would be written by black people.Why would a young 16year old boy want to know about hi history if he has no knowledge if all he sees everyday is things that take his mind so far away from that. music, socitey, to name but a few. Certain people think we should be content that we get our black faces on the TV.Take MTV for example, whit is it that the only famous black people that MAJORITY of white people know about are SPORTS MEN OR MUSICIANS.consumers and buyers of black music = white youth>>>>black youthmessage of black music (rap,hip hop, etc) that is shown on tv such as mtv = guns, violence, sex, money, disrespect etc, negaitve thingsmesage white youths are getting of blacks = neagitve imagesPowers that Be, that control waht is shown on TV, Radio = not balck peopletruth is powers are content with feeding this message as it is a form of brainwashing, it keeps people happy but at the detriment of our community, not just black community , but even you ashman most of your badness and attiutdes are because your peple are folloewing what they deem cool etc, becaus of the messages they are taking in, the negative views on balcks and sterotypes, but many people dont and didnt moan when it wernt affecting you.

[Gunner]

oh sh*t all of what i just wrote got deleted

[Gunner]

you kno what the thing sis every ones the same coz were all HUMAN!!!!people are always trying to make us split apart, by sayin 1 religion is beter that another, by saying your white you shouldnt be with a black man, you asian u should be wich a indian person....WTF!!!!even one has skin bones and flesh and blood, wee are all made up the same, were we grew up from affected our skin colour....we now have intelligence and knowledge....and bk then people didnt....and to now be continuing a grudge is silly, bcoz if u actuly look aroud you, you will see differnt coltures embrace each other every day....WE SHUD BE ROWING OVER SOMTHING FROM THE PAST WE NEED 2 EMBRASE THE FUTURE...IN A UNITED FRONT!

iTS ALL GOOD SAYING THIS, SOUNDS NICE. bUT THE REALITY IS THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.How many people have said this, its easy saying that when your in a comfortible position. We cannot move to equality unless everyone has equal opportunities in everything AND IN THIS CASE WE ANT THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF LEARNING ABOUT OUR HISTORY.BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH SINCE DAY DOT, YET WE ARE TOLD ONLY OF WHAT HAPPENED SINCE THE EUROPEEANS ARRIVED IN AFRICA SOME 500 ODD YEARS AGO, WHILST THE GREEK LEANR ABOUT THEIR GODS AND ZEUS ETC from way back, since the SANISH LEANR ABOUT X,Y,Z FROM WHAY BACK, SINCE THE ENGLISH LEARN ABOUT HENRY 8TH, ROMANS VIKINGS AND WHOEVER FROM WAY BACKOH and in 14xx Cristopher cloumbus discovered the WEST INDIES liek they wernt there BEFORE, oh and EUROPEANS CAME TO AFRICA ONE DAY AND PACKED ALL THE BLACKS IN A SHIP LIKE SARDINES AND SHIPPED THEM TO THE AMERICAS (SOUTH AND NORTH) AND CARRIBBEAN TO WORK IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS CALLING THEM NAMES LIKE NIGGER ETC STEALING AND WHIPING THEIR HISTORY. you get my point..?

BUT THAT IS YOUR OWN FAULTS...We cannot know what happened before we arrived.. shall we just make up a story of how you arrived here?IT'S DOWN TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE TO FIND THE TRUTHS AND TEACH YOUR PEOPLES OH WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE..EVEN I WOUL BE INTERESTED TO KNOW!You rely on white people to teach you for things we can only account for since the day we found you!

No white people (collective term) came and abolished, eradicated most aspects of black history.How can (black)people in America find out about peoples in Africa all them years ago (slave times ) if they are separeted? withing time the links becaome smaller and smaller untill their are none left.Its all our fault that white people wanted to act inhumane toward blacks ?Im not saying white people should teach us about ourselves, but your saying you want equality and fairness, so why is it that white eople painted a distorted and untrue picture of black people then, whats the motives for that?Look what Jews have got, they have the state of Isreal, if you say the holocust never happened you can get put in jail in certian places. holocust happened over how many years5-10 absolute max, in A small section of europe, not trans american slavery was goin on for 100ys of years, imagine how many people died, and yet some people wanna say its OUR fault. WAS it the jews fault, Hitler was racist and mad?

When white people were BUYING slaves from BLACK people in guana I think it was, who was we paying?Do you think we was buying slaves from white people to start with?

And if you really think that you 'bought' ll them slaves fairly and whatever then thats you.But there is more to transatlantic slave trade than what happened in AfricaDont forgetThe ship journey their, the condidtions, America, everything that happed there, to what still happens now.life AS a slave.

Hey I totally agree with what you're saying. The beatings, the rapes, the inhumane treatment etc.I hear what you're saying. I am not saying that is right. I am saying don't blame white people for everything because sometimes a person or a race can be there own downfall at times for letting things happen or inventing things that may come back to haunt you. Did you not ask where was the rest of the world when you was being enslaved and oppressed?Did you not think where was the chinese? where was the Jews? where was everyone ele the whole time?Don't just blame white people.

evrything happens for a reason...certain people wouldnt be here on this forum if it wernt for the slave trade.

as bad as it sounds, it's true.Jamicia would not be embraced as the home of black people.There would be no bob marley etc.I know it is bad to say but sometimes bad things happen to create more good openings.

Yes good come come out of bad but that doesnt compensate for the rest, and i cannot accept that as a reason or justification for it.

[Ashman.]

Gunner. I can understand where you are coming from but lets be honest..You are in a majority white country. It has near or nuff always been a predomically white country, nation, collective.What you are complaining about is nothing considering the equality this country has promoted at the expense of a lot of it's own people who have been run down by the media, as this Ken Livingston says about the knolledge test, even when I applied for the job at TFL.Imagine me go China now.. You think I am gonna get anything my way?Maybe you need to look more to the roots for your answers.Africa is you.

[Sole]

Dont ever think i think everything black is good and everything white is bad, but id like i fair chance to find out what i need to find out.

Fair play to you.Maybe you should understand that I too may like the same chance to find out what I need to find out and not everything white is good and not everything black is bad.

yes and you have more opportunity to do so. all im saying is we should have more opportunity to do so also. if you really want equality.

How do I have more opputunity to do so?This is what pisses me off.There is a library in Lewisham college..Meet me there and we will look in there for books that will show us the past.Lets see who can gather most information about there own people.IF PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO BE EDUCATED, IF PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO READ OR RESEARCH, DO NOT BLAME THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESEARCHING AND FINDING TIME TO READ.ALL IT TAKES IS 1 EDUCATED PERSON TO PASS THE SKILLS ON.. THATS ALL. OUT OF THE BILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE EARTH.1 EDUCATED PERSON CAN SHOW ILLITERATE PEOPLE HOW TO READ AND WRITE IF THEY WANT TO LEARN.

THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT THE MINDSET, which is a irect conditioning and respult of slavery, black peoples and white peoples fault.Yea i can go lewisham library, most them books would have been written by white people. Probably less than 5 of books on none white history would be written by black people.Why would a young 16year old boy want to know about hi history if he has no knowledge if all he sees everyday is things that take his mind so far away from that. music, socitey, to name but a few. Certain people think we should be content that we get our black faces on the TV.Take MTV for example, whit is it that the only famous black people that MAJORITY of white people know about are SPORTS MEN OR MUSICIANS.consumers and buyers of black music = white youth>>>>black youthmessage of black music (rap,hip hop, etc) that is shown on tv such as mtv = guns, violence, sex, money, disrespect etc, negaitve thingsmesage white youths are getting of blacks = neagitve imagesPowers that Be, that control waht is shown on TV, Radio = not balck peopletruth is powers are content with feeding this message as it is a form of brainwashing, it keeps people happy but at the detriment of our community, not just black community , but even you ashman most of your badness and attiutdes are because your peple are folloewing what they deem cool etc, becaus of the messages they are taking in, the negative views on balcks and sterotypes, but many people dont and didnt moan when it wernt affecting you.

bare asumptions...an that comment about books mostly being written by white people is stupid...how many people at that time who wer black could read an write? so obviously most documented information was made by white people

[Sole]

you kno what the thing sis every ones the same coz were all HUMAN!!!!people are always trying to make us split apart, by sayin 1 religion is beter that another, by saying your white you shouldnt be with a black man, you asian u should be wich a indian person....WTF!!!!even one has skin bones and flesh and blood, wee are all made up the same, were we grew up from affected our skin colour....we now have intelligence and knowledge....and bk then people didnt....and to now be continuing a grudge is silly, bcoz if u actuly look aroud you, you will see differnt coltures embrace each other every day....WE SHUD BE ROWING OVER SOMTHING FROM THE PAST WE NEED 2 EMBRASE THE FUTURE...IN A UNITED FRONT!

iTS ALL GOOD SAYING THIS, SOUNDS NICE. bUT THE REALITY IS THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.How many people have said this, its easy saying that when your in a comfortible position. We cannot move to equality unless everyone has equal opportunities in everything AND IN THIS CASE WE ANT THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF LEARNING ABOUT OUR HISTORY.BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH SINCE DAY DOT, YET WE ARE TOLD ONLY OF WHAT HAPPENED SINCE THE EUROPEEANS ARRIVED IN AFRICA SOME 500 ODD YEARS AGO, WHILST THE GREEK LEANR ABOUT THEIR GODS AND ZEUS ETC from way back, since the SANISH LEANR ABOUT X,Y,Z FROM WHAY BACK, SINCE THE ENGLISH LEARN ABOUT HENRY 8TH, ROMANS VIKINGS AND WHOEVER FROM WAY BACKOH and in 14xx Cristopher cloumbus discovered the WEST INDIES liek they wernt there BEFORE, oh and EUROPEANS CAME TO AFRICA ONE DAY AND PACKED ALL THE BLACKS IN A SHIP LIKE SARDINES AND SHIPPED THEM TO THE AMERICAS (SOUTH AND NORTH) AND CARRIBBEAN TO WORK IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS CALLING THEM NAMES LIKE NIGGER ETC STEALING AND WHIPING THEIR HISTORY. you get my point..?

BUT THAT IS YOUR OWN FAULTS...We cannot know what happened before we arrived.. shall we just make up a story of how you arrived here?IT'S DOWN TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE TO FIND THE TRUTHS AND TEACH YOUR PEOPLES OH WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE..EVEN I WOUL BE INTERESTED TO KNOW!You rely on white people to teach you for things we can only account for since the day we found you!

No white people (collective term) came and abolished, eradicated most aspects of black history.How can (black)people in America find out about peoples in Africa all them years ago (slave times ) if they are separeted? withing time the links becaome smaller and smaller untill their are none left.Its all our fault that white people wanted to act inhumane toward blacks ?Im not saying white people should teach us about ourselves, but your saying you want equality and fairness, so why is it that white eople painted a distorted and untrue picture of black people then, whats the motives for that?Look what Jews have got, they have the state of Isreal, if you say the holocust never happened you can get put in jail in certian places. holocust happened over how many years5-10 absolute max, in A small section of europe, not trans american slavery was goin on for 100ys of years, imagine how many people died, and yet some people wanna say its OUR fault. WAS it the jews fault, Hitler was racist and mad?

When white people were BUYING slaves from BLACK people in guana I think it was, who was we paying?Do you think we was buying slaves from white people to start with?

And if you really think that you 'bought' ll them slaves fairly and whatever then thats you.But there is more to transatlantic slave trade than what happened in AfricaDont forgetThe ship journey their, the condidtions, America, everything that happed there, to what still happens now.life AS a slave.

Hey I totally agree with what you're saying. The beatings, the rapes, the inhumane treatment etc.I hear what you're saying. I am not saying that is right. I am saying don't blame white people for everything because sometimes a person or a race can be there own downfall at times for letting things happen or inventing things that may come back to haunt you. Did you not ask where was the rest of the world when you was being enslaved and oppressed?Did you not think where was the chinese? where was the Jews? where was everyone ele the whole time?Don't just blame white people.

evrything happens for a reason...certain people wouldnt be here on this forum if it wernt for the slave trade.

as bad as it sounds, it's true.Jamicia would not be embraced as the home of black people.There would be no bob marley etc.I know it is bad to say but sometimes bad things happen to create more good openings.

Yes good come come out of bad but that doesnt compensate for the rest, and i cannot accept that as a reason or justification for it.

ok if it wernt for slave trade the world would be a completly diffrent place for example there wud be no rap/grime culture would there? if you get stabbed up 2nite an u go too hospital an draw down the nurse have a family with her etc the good that came out of that stabbing wud out weigh the badness of being stabbd true or not?

[Ashman.]

Gunner..Something ain't sounding right though.You're not even black are you?Am I wrong?I swear you're Scotish/Arab?

[Peppergrain]

Profit is right, if your own people didn't sell you off to slave masters for a bit of extra doh, there would be no Scorcha or Wiley, you'd be sitting round a fire, hitting bongo drums wearing nothing but a loin cloth and a few crocodile teeth round your neck. Furthermore there would be no nurses there to draw, he would have to rely on witchdoctors.EMBRACE SLAVERY.Furthermore, LMAO, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA at people thinking all the books are written by white people, that's bullshit if I've ever heard it. It's not white peoples faults if you''re just too lazy/dumb to read.

[Gunner]

you kno what the thing sis every ones the same coz were all HUMAN!!!!people are always trying to make us split apart, by sayin 1 religion is beter that another, by saying your white you shouldnt be with a black man, you asian u should be wich a indian person....WTF!!!!even one has skin bones and flesh and blood, wee are all made up the same, were we grew up from affected our skin colour....we now have intelligence and knowledge....and bk then people didnt....and to now be continuing a grudge is silly, bcoz if u actuly look aroud you, you will see differnt coltures embrace each other every day....WE SHUD BE ROWING OVER SOMTHING FROM THE PAST WE NEED 2 EMBRASE THE FUTURE...IN A UNITED FRONT!

iTS ALL GOOD SAYING THIS, SOUNDS NICE. bUT THE REALITY IS THIS IS NOT HAPPENING.How many people have said this, its easy saying that when your in a comfortible position. We cannot move to equality unless everyone has equal opportunities in everything AND IN THIS CASE WE ANT THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF LEARNING ABOUT OUR HISTORY.BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH SINCE DAY DOT, YET WE ARE TOLD ONLY OF WHAT HAPPENED SINCE THE EUROPEEANS ARRIVED IN AFRICA SOME 500 ODD YEARS AGO, WHILST THE GREEK LEANR ABOUT THEIR GODS AND ZEUS ETC from way back, since the SANISH LEANR ABOUT X,Y,Z FROM WHAY BACK, SINCE THE ENGLISH LEARN ABOUT HENRY 8TH, ROMANS VIKINGS AND WHOEVER FROM WAY BACKOH and in 14xx Cristopher cloumbus discovered the WEST INDIES liek they wernt there BEFORE, oh and EUROPEANS CAME TO AFRICA ONE DAY AND PACKED ALL THE BLACKS IN A SHIP LIKE SARDINES AND SHIPPED THEM TO THE AMERICAS (SOUTH AND NORTH) AND CARRIBBEAN TO WORK IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS CALLING THEM NAMES LIKE NIGGER ETC STEALING AND WHIPING THEIR HISTORY. you get my point..?

BUT THAT IS YOUR OWN FAULTS...We cannot know what happened before we arrived.. shall we just make up a story of how you arrived here?IT'S DOWN TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE TO FIND THE TRUTHS AND TEACH YOUR PEOPLES OH WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE..EVEN I WOUL BE INTERESTED TO KNOW!You rely on white people to teach you for things we can only account for since the day we found you!

No white people (collective term) came and abolished, eradicated most aspects of black history.How can (black)people in America find out about peoples in Africa all them years ago (slave times ) if they are separeted? withing time the links becaome smaller and smaller untill their are none left.Its all our fault that white people wanted to act inhumane toward blacks ?Im not saying white people should teach us about ourselves, but your saying you want equality and fairness, so why is it that white eople painted a distorted and untrue picture of black people then, whats the motives for that?Look what Jews have got, they have the state of Isreal, if you say the holocust never happened you can get put in jail in certian places. holocust happened over how many years5-10 absolute max, in A small section of europe, not trans american slavery was goin on for 100ys of years, imagine how many people died, and yet some people wanna say its OUR fault. WAS it the jews fault, Hitler was racist and mad?

When white people were BUYING slaves from BLACK people in guana I think it was, who was we paying?Do you think we was buying slaves from white people to start with?

And if you really think that you 'bought' ll them slaves fairly and whatever then thats you.But there is more to transatlantic slave trade than what happened in AfricaDont forgetThe ship journey their, the condidtions, America, everything that happed there, to what still happens now.life AS a slave.

Hey I totally agree with what you're saying. The beatings, the rapes, the inhumane treatment etc.I hear what you're saying. I am not saying that is right. I am saying don't blame white people for everything because sometimes a person or a race can be there own downfall at times for letting things happen or inventing things that may come back to haunt you. Did you not ask where was the rest of the world when you was being enslaved and oppressed?Did you not think where was the chinese? where was the Jews? where was everyone ele the whole time?Don't just blame white people.

evrything happens for a reason...certain people wouldnt be here on this forum if it wernt for the slave trade.

as bad as it sounds, it's true.Jamicia would not be embraced as the home of black people.There would be no bob marley etc.I know it is bad to say but sometimes bad things happen to create more good openings.

Yes good come come out of bad but that doesnt compensate for the rest, and i cannot accept that as a reason or justification for it.

ok if it wernt for slave trade the world would be a completly diffrent place for example there wud be no rap/grime culture would there? if you get stabbed up 2nite an u go too hospital an draw down the nurse have a family with her etc the good that came out of that stabbing wud out weigh the badness of being stabbd true or not?

Brove your going off on mad different angles, do you think i have time to think about every possibl outcome of every situation? Rap grime whatever, black people love music, wherever they go, they will make music of all forms, so that point is just a point to make a point. Yes good come out of bad, but its not a JUSTIFICATION or COMPENSATION for the bad in the 1st place. Oh i might ROD your HOUSE, but then again, youll be better then after by better anti robbery and secrutoy stuff so thats a good thing? what about the heartache u wnt through, loss of sentimental things, what if i had a gun and shot up ur fam, gave your little sister trumur tortured her, but its ok, cos you bought this wikid alarm from halfords that has flashing lights and says ''intruder alert '' in a robot voice.Yu see my point?

[Guest Radio Raheem]

Why would be africans be dancing around a fire with all that gold and diamondswe'd be RICH BITCH

[Guest StabiloBossman]

{SKEPTA} BARE MAN IN MY CAR LIKE IM A JEW IN THIS TING {SKEPTA}

[Dadinho]

who gives a f*ckyou're nearly all retards, none of you are going to convince anyone else of anythingnone of you are going to change the world having these discussionsgive it a f*cking rest