Carlito's Way

[Ralph Cifaretto]

Big film must of seen it about 5 times now Pacino and Penn are both immense in this but the women dosnt cut it, she pisses me off shes a poor actress. Benny Blanco is a bad man, proper heartless prick

[Cipher]

Ken Rosenberg.

[Shawn_Carter]

Heat >>>> Carlito's Way.Sick film though still.De Niro & Pacino are f*cking sick together in Heat though. Paul (De Niro) is the actual definition of badman. The way my guy just f*cks off from his girl at teh end when he sees Pacino - "have nothing in your life that you can't walk away form in 30 seconds flat if you see the heat coming round the corner". Badman.

[Cipher]

I think I'm just gnna make a thread, and reveal the end of allthe sick movies in it.

[Shawn_Carter]

I think I'm just gnna make a thread, and reveal the end of allthe sick movies in it.

lol if you was referrring to my post, thats not the actual ending, just towards the end of the film.

[Train]

I think I'm just gnna make a thread, and reveal the end of allthe sick movies in it.

As a punishment for no movie room?DOW IT

[Superstition]

No, it's actually him on the stretcher fading away, however, the viewer never sees him die. They see him wounded being taken away on a stretcher. Then it flashes back to the courtroom scene.

I've always taken the movie's sequence as Carlito is shown as doomed from the very first frame. The way the film is put together is brilliant, because then from the courtroom onwards, you're encouraged to forget it. You're invited to witness his reformation and determination to go straight - you don't see the brutal drug dealer who did all the sh*t to get put away, you only see the clean, ethical character who emerges from the joint, just wanting to live a simple, calm life. His overwhelming and earnest joy at being freed is so infectious (not just out of handcuffs, but becoming mentally free, and ready to live the straight life) that you eat it up, and coz you feel it's not fair such a genuinely good-intentioned person is gonna die, you allow the film to make you forget it.It's brilliantly-written, because you get swept up in the narrative and the drama, and feel like you're watching these events unfold as-they-happen, when of course, over the whole film is a giant dark cloud hanging above. The subconscious knowledge, that by the end he's gonna be laid up on the train platform, with shredded internal organs.Throughout it you want him to win so badly, you want him to avoid all the badness, you want him to evade the snake-like entity of "the street" which is always trying to pull him back, and escape to paradise with his girl. It takes you on a roller-coaster ride, because your emotions ride up and down with Carlito's, as he's trying to find his way out of this trap (Carlito's Way). But of course, there's no way out. This is the real world, and drug kingpins don't ride off into the sunset, they get destroyed by themselves (his misplaced loyalty), by those close to them (Pachanga, Kleinfeld), and by their rivals (Benny Blanco). The final sequence is especially masterful, where the adrenaline is sky-high, and all you can do is root for him SO BADLY to duck the Mafia and the police, and make it out. But in all the intensity and drama, you forget about Benny - just like Carlito did. You're so caught up in the high-paced action, that you forget to "see all the angles". You feel what Carlito feels - the joy, the frustration, the paranoia, the horror, the disappointment, the adrenaline, the hope, the shock, and finally the sad acceptance that it's his time to go. But while riding this roller-coaster, at the back of your mind is the inevitability, just like it is in Carlito's mind. He knew he was doomed coz the odds were too stacked, and he knew the street would get him as soon as he let Benny go ("I know what's gotta happen now. Benny's gotta go down.. if he doesn't, they're gonna say, Carlito he's flaky, he's slacked-out, a used-to-be bad guy.") He knows the the street is watching and he knows that he's inviting his downfall. My point is that, Carlito's Way isn't a "will-he-escape-or-won't-he-escape" thing. You believe it for a moment, just like he did, but in the end it's a tale of an inevitable bad ending.

[the_one]

No, it's actually him on the stretcher fading away, however, the viewer never sees him die. They see him wounded being taken away on a stretcher. Then it flashes back to the courtroom scene.

I've always taken the movie's sequence as Carlito is shown as doomed from the very first frame. The way the film is put together is brilliant, because then from the courtroom onwards, you're encouraged to forget it. You're invited to witness his reformation and determination to go straight - you don't see the brutal drug dealer who did all the sh*t to get put away, you only see the clean, ethical character who emerges from the joint, just wanting to live a simple, calm life. His overwhelming and earnest joy at being freed is so infectious (not just out of handcuffs, but becoming mentally free, and ready to live the straight life) that you eat it up, and coz you feel it's not fair such a genuinely good-intentioned person is gonna die, you allow the film to make you forget it.It's brilliantly-written, because you get swept up in the narrative and the drama, and feel like you're watching these events unfold as-they-happen, when of course, over the whole film is a giant dark cloud hanging above. The subconscious knowledge, that by the end he's gonna be laid up on the train platform, with shredded internal organs.Throughout it you want him to win so badly, you want him to avoid all the badness, you want him to evade the snake-like entity of "the street" which is always trying to pull him back, and escape to paradise with his girl. It takes you on a roller-coaster ride, because your emotions ride up and down with Carlito's, as he's trying to find his way out of this trap (Carlito's Way). But of course, there's no way out. This is the real world, and drug kingpins don't ride off into the sunset, they get destroyed by themselves (his misplaced loyalty), by those close to them (Pachanga, Kleinfeld), and by their rivals (Benny Blanco). The final sequence is especially masterful, where the adrenaline is sky-high, and all you can do is root for him SO BADLY to duck the Mafia and the police, and make it out. But in all the intensity and drama, you forget about Benny - just like Carlito did. You're so caught up in the high-paced action, that you forget to "see all the angles". You feel what Carlito feels - the joy, the frustration, the paranoia, the horror, the disappointment, the adrenaline, the hope, the shock, and finally the sad acceptance that it's his time to go. But while riding this roller-coaster, at the back of your mind is the inevitability, just like it is in Carlito's mind. He knew he was doomed coz the odds were too stacked, and he knew the street would get him as soon as he let Benny go ("I know what's gotta happen now. Benny's gotta go down.. if he doesn't, they're gonna say, Carlito he's flaky, he's slacked-out, a used-to-be bad guy.") He knows the the street is watching and he knows that he's inviting his downfall. My point is that, Carlito's Way isn't a "will-he-escape-or-won't-he-escape" thing. You believe it for a moment, just like he did, but in the end it's a tale of an inevitable bad ending.

ye but did u write that.et na.

[Superstition]

ye but did u write that.et na.

Yes

[the_one]

ye but did u write that.et na.

Yes

I Believe You.

[Cipher]

No, it's actually him on the stretcher fading away, however, the viewer never sees him die. They see him wounded being taken away on a stretcher. Then it flashes back to the courtroom scene.

I've always taken the movie's sequence as Carlito is shown as doomed from the very first frame. The way the film is put together is brilliant, because then from the courtroom onwards, you're encouraged to forget it. You're invited to witness his reformation and determination to go straight - you don't see the brutal drug dealer who did all the sh*t to get put away, you only see the clean, ethical character who emerges from the joint, just wanting to live a simple, calm life. His overwhelming and earnest joy at being freed is so infectious (not just out of handcuffs, but becoming mentally free, and ready to live the straight life) that you eat it up, and coz you feel it's not fair such a genuinely good-intentioned person is gonna die, you allow the film to make you forget it.It's brilliantly-written, because you get swept up in the narrative and the drama, and feel like you're watching these events unfold as-they-happen, when of course, over the whole film is a giant dark cloud hanging above. The subconscious knowledge, that by the end he's gonna be laid up on the train platform, with shredded internal organs.Throughout it you want him to win so badly, you want him to avoid all the badness, you want him to evade the snake-like entity of "the street" which is always trying to pull him back, and escape to paradise with his girl. It takes you on a roller-coaster ride, because your emotions ride up and down with Carlito's, as he's trying to find his way out of this trap (Carlito's Way). But of course, there's no way out. This is the real world, and drug kingpins don't ride off into the sunset, they get destroyed by themselves (his misplaced loyalty), by those close to them (Pachanga, Kleinfeld), and by their rivals (Benny Blanco). The final sequence is especially masterful, where the adrenaline is sky-high, and all you can do is root for him SO BADLY to duck the Mafia and the police, and make it out. But in all the intensity and drama, you forget about Benny - just like Carlito did. You're so caught up in the high-paced action, that you forget to "see all the angles". You feel what Carlito feels - the joy, the frustration, the paranoia, the horror, the disappointment, the adrenaline, the hope, the shock, and finally the sad acceptance that it's his time to go. But while riding this roller-coaster, at the back of your mind is the inevitability, just like it is in Carlito's mind. He knew he was doomed coz the odds were too stacked, and he knew the street would get him as soon as he let Benny go ("I know what's gotta happen now. Benny's gotta go down.. if he doesn't, they're gonna say, Carlito he's flaky, he's slacked-out, a used-to-be bad guy.") He knows the the street is watching and he knows that he's inviting his downfall. My point is that, Carlito's Way isn't a "will-he-escape-or-won't-he-escape" thing. You believe it for a moment, just like he did, but in the end it's a tale of an inevitable bad ending.

Yeh i think its obvious from the start, but not everyone knew what the ending would be, and some may have missed the start. so they wouldnt have seeen that sh*t on the stretcher.

[Ali La Pointe]

Film is a masterpiece. My favourite . . .

[spiderman]

No, it's actually him on the stretcher fading away, however, the viewer never sees him die. They see him wounded being taken away on a stretcher. Then it flashes back to the courtroom scene.

I've always taken the movie's sequence as Carlito is shown as doomed from the very first frame. The way the film is put together is brilliant, because then from the courtroom onwards, you're encouraged to forget it. You're invited to witness his reformation and determination to go straight - you don't see the brutal drug dealer who did all the sh*t to get put away, you only see the clean, ethical character who emerges from the joint, just wanting to live a simple, calm life. His overwhelming and earnest joy at being freed is so infectious (not just out of handcuffs, but becoming mentally free, and ready to live the straight life) that you eat it up, and coz you feel it's not fair such a genuinely good-intentioned person is gonna die, you allow the film to make you forget it.It's brilliantly-written, because you get swept up in the narrative and the drama, and feel like you're watching these events unfold as-they-happen, when of course, over the whole film is a giant dark cloud hanging above. The subconscious knowledge, that by the end he's gonna be laid up on the train platform, with shredded internal organs.Throughout it you want him to win so badly, you want him to avoid all the badness, you want him to evade the snake-like entity of "the street" which is always trying to pull him back, and escape to paradise with his girl. It takes you on a roller-coaster ride, because your emotions ride up and down with Carlito's, as he's trying to find his way out of this trap (Carlito's Way). But of course, there's no way out. This is the real world, and drug kingpins don't ride off into the sunset, they get destroyed by themselves (his misplaced loyalty), by those close to them (Pachanga, Kleinfeld), and by their rivals (Benny Blanco). The final sequence is especially masterful, where the adrenaline is sky-high, and all you can do is root for him SO BADLY to duck the Mafia and the police, and make it out. But in all the intensity and drama, you forget about Benny - just like Carlito did. You're so caught up in the high-paced action, that you forget to "see all the angles". You feel what Carlito feels - the joy, the frustration, the paranoia, the horror, the disappointment, the adrenaline, the hope, the shock, and finally the sad acceptance that it's his time to go. But while riding this roller-coaster, at the back of your mind is the inevitability, just like it is in Carlito's mind. He knew he was doomed coz the odds were too stacked, and he knew the street would get him as soon as he let Benny go ("I know what's gotta happen now. Benny's gotta go down.. if he doesn't, they're gonna say, Carlito he's flaky, he's slacked-out, a used-to-be bad guy.") He knows the the street is watching and he knows that he's inviting his downfall. My point is that, Carlito's Way isn't a "will-he-escape-or-won't-he-escape" thing. You believe it for a moment, just like he did, but in the end it's a tale of an inevitable bad ending.

ye that about sums it up. the writers did a good job basically, very good job.he should of iced benny, once he go involved enuff to have a beef with sumone in the street, and his face is bait, he KNEW he had to do it. But he knew its a trap, kill him and his ppl mite come for u, and dont kill him he will try take revenge, which he did. IMO he should of killed him, his rep was big enuff for people to be shook of him.sick film, its a lot deeper than scarface, but i still like scarface cos its about him achieving the dream, where as carlito's way is more about facing up to the reality of life.that and scarface was one bad mofo lol, he would of iced benny no probs. He only did mad things out of pride n hype a lot wen he was coking too much, jus like klienfield.scarface before he wents nutzo on the coke>>>>>carlito

[DAT_YOUT_FROM_E15]

has anyone seen the diddy versionits pie

[spiderman]

LOL diddy version of carlitos way?y wud u try ruin a classic like that. the money must go to these guys heads.

[Ali La Pointe]

i don't even want to see one minute of that , it might ruin the original for me .

[Scorpzz]

Scarface>>>>carlito's way

[Ego]

Scarface>>>>carlito's way

nevscarface was more greaziercarlitos way had more substance

[Social]

scarface and carlitos way are both brian de palma films,obviously the later one carlitos paints a more sombre picture with more in depth aspects,this is of course to be expected,its the study of an older guys last days so its more indepth whereas scarface is the archetypal rise and fall gangster story.and say wat u will about preferring the character of carlito or the storyline or what have you,scarface is one of the defining films of the most influential era of cinema,its iconic status speaks for itself.cinematically its one of the most beautifully shot pieces of film available on a par with casino in its visual richness and it is probably de palmas best film,with a rewatchability factor of over 100,carlitos is a great film but scarface is one of the great films,i dont say this cos i saw it and wanted to be scarface,but because justifiably it is a landmark in film history and stands up there comfortably in anyones top lists,not to mention how influential its been on filmmakers and the general public.like i say its iconic status speaks for itselfscarface>>carlitos

[spiderman]

ye scarface had more of an impact on society.

[Scorpzz]

scarface and carlitos way are both brian de palma films,obviously the later one carlitos paints a more sombre picture with more in depth aspects,this is of course to be expected,its the study of an older guys last days so its more indepth whereas scarface is the archetypal rise and fall gangster story.and say wat u will about preferring the character of carlito or the storyline or what have you,scarface is one of the defining films of the most influential era of cinema,its iconic status speaks for itself.cinematically its one of the most beautifully shot pieces of film available on a par with casino in its visual richness and it is probably de palmas best film,with a rewatchability factor of over 100,carlitos is a great film but scarface is one of the great films,i dont say this cos i saw it and wanted to be scarface,but because justifiably it is a landmark in film history and stands up there comfortably in anyones top lists,not to mention how influential its been on filmmakers and the general public.like i say its iconic status speaks for itselfscarface>>carlitos

Preach my brudda.

[Gambino]

It's good but over rated as far as gangster films go for me, found it a little boring. Dunno how this can be anyones fav pacino film when the guy played Tony Montana and Michael Corleone.

[spiderman]

It's good but over rated as far as gangster films go for me, found it a little boring. Dunno how this can be anyones fav pacino film when the guy played Tony Montana and Michael Corleone.

Godfather was sick. ahr its tuff to call which character i prefer, he played em both to perfection. scarface was more raw, but godfather story was too much.

[Cipher]

has anyone seen the diddy versionits pie

LOL diddy version of carlitos way?y wud u try ruin a classic like that. the money must go to these guys heads.

i don't even want to see one minute of that , it might ruin the original for me .

Omly thing I'd liek to see a Diddy version of, is the Ken Bigley Video.

[o-guy]

u can't read godfather the book first, then go on to watch the film and like it.U Dn't know none of the characters untill u've read the book.I feel the movie butchers the story of the Godfather.Strong words, yet true.Carlito's way is a great film, but scarface as previously said, is iconic.scareface >>>>>>>> Carlito's way