Kurtis Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 ite so i gt mines today from Holland & Barrettim 6ft 10 stone as some of u might known i wanna be about as big as Rick Ross, DJ Khaled etc, not as huge as fat joe doednt care bout musclewhat more do i need?n how long would it take?if say i exceed the recommended amount of supplements im supposed to take, what would happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbmc Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 whey protein by itself won't do sh*t, and creatine is used to inrease muscle endurance, although u will notice a tiny amount of extra bulk from it, it's aimed at weighlifters looking to get past plateus (sp) in their training.Just eat a lot, my dad's about ur stats and he's managed to put on half a stone in about a week from spending his whole day eating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brolly Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 lol @ buying your whey from holland & barrett.u might just eat mcdonalds everyday if u wanna be like rick ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n/a Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 to get rick ross physique jus eat alot of junk food nd lift some weights now nd then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbmc Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 lol @ buying your whey from holland & barrett.u might just eat mcdonalds everyday if u wanna be like rick rosswos wrong with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brolly Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 lol @ buying your whey from holland & barrett.u might just eat mcdonalds everyday if u wanna be like rick rosswos wrong with that?i dunno if they still get their whey from the same brand, if they do then boiits a brand from america u'll find their products on walmart & sh*t lots of yanks and brits have said the whey is high on sugar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtis Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 body fortress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbmc Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 body fortress?did u read my post?And brolly i don't get the one with that guy on the front it's JUST whey protein, nothing else, i think, i'm gonna have to check now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brolly Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 body fortress?yeah thats the onenext time jus get whey from myprotein.co.uk or just buy online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Body fortress aint that bad i used to use itIt won't help you put weight on unless you have 2 scoops with like 100g of oats 3 times a day and stuff yourselfDon't use creatine yet it's a waste if your only trying to gain weight & not lean muscle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpe_Deum Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 body fortress isnt that bad, the whey protein holland and barret sell in the box is good stuff, the ones in the plastic tubs are of less quality cos it's concentrated but so is alot of the more expensive protein out there.sometime's people are their own worst enemy, which is why the supplement companies make a killing.they have sweetners but isnt too bad,all it takes is flex wheeler to say he's been using body fortress for 1 year and watch people rush and buy it. check all the protein you buy online or whereever and see if it doesnt say (whey protein concentrate blend etc etc)unless its isolate which is the highest quality but alot more expensive. though dirty i think you should be taking their weight-gainer as well, or if not that then increase your rice,pasta intake highly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackberry Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dont get that body fortress protein power...its not good..at all...let alone the creatine..For protein i use:http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/shop...customerratingsCreatine:http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=8243These wont work unless your diet is good...especially creatine...id just use protein powder for now and have a good regime..then after a few months use creatine when you stop seeing gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpe_Deum Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dont get that body fortress protein power...its not good..at all...let alone the creatine..For protein i use:http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/shop...customerratingsCreatine:http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=8243These wont work WELL unless your diet is good...especially creatine...id just use protein powder for now and have a good regime..then after a few months use creatine when you stop seeing gains.again, i say that we are beleiving the hype that supp companies have put out there,if you read on alot of BB forums you will see more people backing bodyfortress than not.from your link you posted..this is the ingredients in the optimum nutriition you use Protein blend (whey protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, whey peptides), cocoa (processed with alkali), artifical flavor, lecithin, acesulfame potassium.these are the ingredients contained in the bodyfortress chocolate wheyngredientsProtein Blend (Whey Protein Concentrate, Whey Protein Isolate), Cocoa (Processed with Alkali), Natural and Artificial Flavors, Cellulose Gum, Acesulfame K, Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Maltodextrin.any huge difference? i use optimum too, but just bcos i can. but like one guy put it nicely on a forum, "its like saying fruit of the loom boxers are crap because they are sold in walmart, so you go out and buy kalvin kleins as if its not just the name you're buying and a little extra comfort but not that much"their creatine i agree isnt that good quality cos they still use the old type, which can leave you feeling bloated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackberry Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Ive used it before and I would only use it as a last resort if I ran out of ON..It left me feeling bloated and you can taste the difference between the two...the body fortress one tastes like crap..You get what you pay for when you buy crap...but i guess its good for beginners.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtis Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Body fortress aint that bad i used to use itIt won't help you put weight on unless you have 2 scoops with like 100g of oats 3 times a day and stuff yourselfDon't use creatine yet it's a waste if your only trying to gain weight & not lean muscledoes it help if its with oats, coz i did it with milk in that shaker mixer thingyn safe Carpe n Blackbery for the advise, ill try look more into the different ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackberry Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Yeah its good with oats..good source of fibre too..I mix mine with oats and milk in the morning and sometimes before bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gayle Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 As big as Rick Ross, f*ck me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Yeh you might need a hand mixer or a blender if your using oats i doubt a shaker will do much for them.I got my hand mixer from morrisons for a fiver.You'll need about 500-600ml of milk to compensate for the thickness of the oats but it's nasty to drink but you get used to it after a while.What flavour WHEY did you get? Grab a nurishment drink same flavour as your whey and add a scoop to it, this is good before a workout cos you'll have high carbs & protein, it's also gonna be about 500 cals. Quite high in saturated fats though (7-8g) so don't get too excited with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gayle Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Nah I wouldnt advise to have nurishment, too much cals/sugarBest time to have protein shakes is when you wake up and after a workout, this is when your body can absorb as much of protein as its been so starved of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtis Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Yeh you might need a hand mixer or a blender if your using oats i doubt a shaker will do much for them.I got my hand mixer from morrisons for a fiver.You'll need about 500-600ml of milk to compensate for the thickness of the oats but it's nasty to drink but you get used to it after a while.What flavour WHEY did you get? Grab a nurishment drink same flavour as your whey and add a scoop to it, this is good before a workout cos you'll have high carbs & protein, it's also gonna be about 500 cals. Quite high in saturated fats though (7-8g) so don't get too excited with iti use a blenderthe flavour i gt is vanilla, i usually drink vanilla nurishment aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxYourDadUp Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I swear the best thing for dirts for what he has stated he wants to achieve is a WEIGHT GAINER SUPPLEMENT?One I have used before had 1200 calories and around 30g protein per serving, twice a day with regular meals and you should get decent results...f*ck knows why you need a protein supp and creatine to ge that Ross effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxYourDadUp Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I swear the best thing for dirts for what he has stated he wants to achieve is a WEIGHT GAINER SUPPLEMENT?One I have used before had 1200 calories and around 30g protein per serving, twice a day with regular meals and you should get decent results...f*ck knows why you need a protein supp and creatine to ge that Ross effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtis Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 where can i get that from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 To be honest i thought the same thing about the weight gainer. Im 6ft and 11 stone looking to be about 13 stone by july august. been training for 3 days a week since may time. Noticed some gains but only in muscle definition to be honest, minor muscle mass gain. i was wondering what supplements would be best to use to gain mass while training,and also where thebest places to buy them from are? would be much appreiciated still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRC Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 what whey protein would people recommend or is it all the same stuff (barring bodyfortress..heard its full of sugar) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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