Ephren Taylor Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 This was discussed on another forum, wanted to see what you thought.Basically... Why is GRIME classed at its own type of music?Why is it not just HipHop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurus Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephren Taylor Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Come on...If Busta Rhymes spits over OG's - Get Down, that would be classed as HipHop.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunt Face. Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 But grimes sh*t.Is hiphop??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel C Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Grime is NOT Hip HopJust because there's somebody spitting over a beat doesnt make it hip hop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF/S4DK Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Rollins Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 No.We have hip hop over here.And if they want to take "our music" worldwide they need to lose the UK before every Genre we try and push.Uk GrimeUk Hip hopHip hop is WORLDWIDE. Uk Hip hop? And they wonder why it don't go anywhere.And just to start trouble, Old Skool Garage>>>Grime>>>"UK Hip hop" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karizma Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 NO. Come on...If Busta Rhymes spits over OG's - Get Down, that would be classed as HipHop..NoK-dot.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephren Taylor Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Listen to Movado over this beat...What Genre of music is it??08-movado---guns-out.mp3 - 3.50MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephren Taylor Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Grime is NOT Hip HopJust because there's somebody spitting over a beat doesnt make it hip hopAs if you wouldnt think Top 3 selected was HipHop if you heard a US artist spit over it first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubez Fresco Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Any type of MC'ing over a beat is just an offshoot of Hip Hop which was obviously influenced by Hip Hop. That is in no way shape or form debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel C Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Grime is NOT Hip HopJust because there's somebody spitting over a beat doesnt make it hip hopAs if you wouldnt think Top 3 selected was HipHop if you heard a US artist spit over it firstHow do you know?Its about how you approach the track not who it is spitting on itGrime is NOT Hip Hop, especially not UK Hip Hop - thats a completely different sound to even the Hip Hop copming from the USYour an idiot if you think otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephren Taylor Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Grime is NOT Hip HopJust because there's somebody spitting over a beat doesnt make it hip hopAs if you wouldnt think Top 3 selected was HipHop if you heard a US artist spit over it firstHow do you know?Its about how you approach the track not who it is spitting on itGrime is NOT Hip Hop, especially not UK Hip Hop - thats a completely different sound to even the Hip Hop copming from the USYour an idiot if you think otherwiseYour an idiot if you don't agree with your opinion??Ok.. so if Grime is NOT Hip Hop.. What are the differences... What actually is it that differenciates HipHop from UK HipHop and Grime??Is Slick Rick UK HipHop?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurus Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 the bpm's are different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubez Fresco Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 the bpm's are different..So.. What.Are you trying to say that every Hip Hop beat is the exact same BPM and same with Grime.I don't like quoting myself but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Grime is NOT Hip HopJust because there's somebody spitting over a beat doesnt make it hip hopAs if you wouldnt think Top 3 selected was HipHop if you heard a US artist spit over it firstHow do you know?Its about how you approach the track not who it is spitting on itGrime is NOT Hip Hop, especially not UK Hip Hop - thats a completely different sound to even the Hip Hop copming from the USYour an idiot if you think otherwiseYour an idiot if you don't agree with your opinion??Ok.. so if Grime is NOT Hip Hop.. What are the differences... What actually is it that differenciates HipHop from UK HipHop and Grime??Is Slick Rick UK HipHop??LOL you havnt got a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurus Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 lol im not even gonna carry on its NOT the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurus Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 the bpm's are different..So.. What.Are you trying to say that every Hip Hop beat is the exact same BPM and same with Grime.I don't like quoting myself but.nah grime is around 140 bpm i aint saying every grime beat is 140bpm it could be 135, 145, 150 etcbut ye anyway grime is not hip hop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubez Fresco Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Does anyone here realise how broad a spectrum the title Hip Hop encompasses, I think that's why it's so hard for people to think that Grime is under the umbrella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephren Taylor Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Grime is NOT Hip HopJust because there's somebody spitting over a beat doesnt make it hip hopAs if you wouldnt think Top 3 selected was HipHop if you heard a US artist spit over it firstHow do you know?Its about how you approach the track not who it is spitting on itGrime is NOT Hip Hop, especially not UK Hip Hop - thats a completely different sound to even the Hip Hop copming from the USYour an idiot if you think otherwiseYour an idiot if you don't agree with your opinion??Ok.. so if Grime is NOT Hip Hop.. What are the differences... What actually is it that differenciates HipHop from UK HipHop and Grime??Is Slick Rick UK HipHop??LOL you havnt got a clueHow does that contribute to the discussion??So far, I can see no definitive which out & out seperates grime from hip hop...Could DotRotten not spit the same bars over Jigga What, Jigga Who?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephren Taylor Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Does anyone here realise how broad a spectrum the title Hip Hop encompasses, I think that's why it's so hard for people to think that Grime is under the umbrella.This is my point exactly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero001 Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Does anyone here realise how broad a spectrum the title Hip Hop encompasses, I think that's why it's so hard for people to think that Grime is under the umbrella.Thats what I'm saying. Crunk isnt like NY Hip Hop in topic matter, style, delivery or BPM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF/S4DK Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Grime is not UK hip hop, as in the equilalent scene.However grime from a artists point of view is definitely part of hip hop.Its just for a lot of grime fans & those involved in the genre from a DJ/club based side, they shy away from anything to do with being tagged hip hop.So thats why grime for the closest comparsion is like crunk. Strong enough to indentity itsself as something more than just hip hop, however its still part of the hip hop family tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 these days grime has a structure more like hip hop, but der are differences, but dunno how long they will last.IMO grime started from garage, and was nuffin like hip hop at all, then slowly it moved more and more towards hip hop, now its like sum hybrid between the two sumwer (more near the hip hop side). I dunno when it will be purely classed as a form of hip hop by everyone, some even say it is now, but there will always be a bit of a debate cos its root lie in garage...as for whether it is uk hip hop, its not so clear cos der is already an established uk hip hop scene and both scenes try differentiate between each other, but the lines are gettin thinner and thinner wid more collabs and the change of style, etc...IMO if it isnt alredy, grime will be uk hip hop one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brukfoot Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 I'd say it's UKs answer to hiphop, the way there seems to be a whole culture banded around the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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