what do u think?

[Shatterstar]

In Obama's case it's significant because it was a white women who raised him and made him the person he is.

[Grafter]

theyre all black to mewhat pisses me off tho is when mixrace people are one day black and another day 'mixrace'it is always a mistake to get into a discussion about race with a mixrace individual, always a mistake

[o-guy]

yeah everythings subjective 2bh.some people just like to make it more complicated than it needs to be

i actually dn't think its as objective as people make outfor example if u have a white father and a black mother, i see no reason why u should soely identify yurself as black. if sumone who was half black and half white and had a light brown complextion went around refering to themselves strictly as white, the average person would think of they were lost as regards to who they really arealie? this becuz he or she is simply not solely white nor more than he or she is simple solely black. They are both. to claim to just be one is to deny the otheryet why is it STILL (as if to say its still 1950's america) okay to deny that they are also whiteand i see alot of people mistaking the issueits nt about telling people what they can and can't call themselves its, nt about even the lables themselves. Its about what u are and are not and the mentallity behind thinking otherwisei could call myself irish till i'm blue in the face, but i'll always be nigerian

[Lieutenant]

A lot of it is down to the way people look physically.I mean my girlfriend is just as black as Obama but her skin is a lot lighter yet she has never in her life been referred to as a black person. If she was to become prime minister would not be referred to in the media as 'The first black PM'Ignorance really.

[Escapist]

whats the difference between a 'lightie' and a mixed race person?

lightie should mean a light skinned black person rather than a straight half and half mixhowever, it's been lost in translation me thinksand most mixed race people i know consider themselves black as i do and as alot of white people do; white people only seem to talk of them as mixed race when theres some sort of success attached

i thought the reason why thay are light skinned is because they have white ancestry, meaning they were mixed race no? Ive met mixed race people with darker skin that some 'lighties.' I think with mixed race people being labelled as black or mix race is to do with how they present themselves rather than success per se. Lewis Hamilton's a good example of this.

[Escapist]

A lot of it is down to the way people look physically.I mean my girlfriend is just as black as Obama but her skin is a lot lighter yet she has never in her life been referred to as a black person. If she was to become prime minister would not be referred to in the media as 'The first black PM'Ignorance really.

I think a lot of it is to do with which parent is black. mixed race people with white dad's generally look (and to a certain extent act) more white than black and vice versa.

[Em Dott]

A lot of it is down to the way people look physically.I mean my girlfriend is just as black as Obama but her skin is a lot lighter yet she has never in her life been referred to as a black person. If she was to become prime minister would not be referred to in the media as 'The first black PM'Ignorance really.

Basically.

[Grafter]

A lot of it is down to the way people look physically.I mean my girlfriend is just as black as Obama but her skin is a lot lighter yet she has never in her life been referred to as a black person. If she was to become prime minister would not be referred to in the media as 'The first black PM'Ignorance really.

I think a lot of it is to do with which parent is black. mixed race people with white dad's generally look (and to a certain extent act) more white than black and vice versa.

i have to disagreeit depends on which parent is around/has the biggest influence

[Guest28]

tbh i see tigers point of view, i bet u any money lewis hamilton feels the same way it all goes down to how u were brought up, what type of ppl are around u and make u feel more accpted.but no way would i call him a bounty for saying the truth

[Tee]

im with you stillbt it doesnt bother me n i dnt really care what ppl call themselves

[neeko]

whats the difference between a 'lightie' and a mixed race person?

lightie should mean a light skinned black person rather than a straight half and half mixhowever, it's been lost in translation me thinksand most mixed race people i know consider themselves black as i do and as alot of white people do; white people only seem to talk of them as mixed race when theres some sort of success attached

i thought the reason why thay are light skinned is because they have white ancestry, meaning they were mixed race no? Ive met mixed race people with darker skin that some 'lighties.' I think with mixed race people being labelled as black or mix race is to do with how they present themselves rather than success per se. Lewis Hamilton's a good example of this.

nah manim quite light skin, sum mistake me for being mixed race but im 100% nigerianive seen pics of my great grand parents and have been told are fam has always been like this

[Em Dott]

whats the difference between a 'lightie' and a mixed race person?

lightie should mean a light skinned black person rather than a straight half and half mixhowever, it's been lost in translation me thinksand most mixed race people i know consider themselves black as i do and as alot of white people do; white people only seem to talk of them as mixed race when theres some sort of success attached

i thought the reason why thay are light skinned is because they have white ancestry, meaning they were mixed race no? Ive met mixed race people with darker skin that some 'lighties.' I think with mixed race people being labelled as black or mix race is to do with how they present themselves rather than success per se. Lewis Hamilton's a good example of this.

nah manim quite light skin, sum mistake me for being mixed race but im 100% nigerianive seen pics of my great grand parents and have been told are fam has always been like this

This is what I was getting at in my first post.

[Lieutenant]

A lot of it is down to the way people look physically.I mean my girlfriend is just as black as Obama but her skin is a lot lighter yet she has never in her life been referred to as a black person. If she was to become prime minister would not be referred to in the media as 'The first black PM'Ignorance really.

I think a lot of it is to do with which parent is black. mixed race people with white dad's generally look (and to a certain extent act) more white than black and vice versa.

Bullshit.

[General Mac]

Right this race thing has been disputed and debated for decades. I never considered Tiger Woods a Black Man, I've always viewed him as a man who belongs to no major race but a multi-racial man. To brand him black because his cranial is relatively close to that of a Negro is borderline disrespectful and neglective of his other genetics. But then again this mentality of branding anybody who has a hint of black in them as black is more an African American thing derived from years of oppression from the White Supremacist.As for Obama, well to me he's half and half, although his Black genes are more prominent he still is never the less 50% of each race. However, he declares himself a Black man due to social & national conditioning & the implementation of the one drop rule. sh*t even Obamas distant cousin Brad Pitt consideres him Black.It's just how the world is to be honest. It is far much easier to pigeon hole people into major racial groups i.e Black, White, Asian, Oriental etc, having sub racial groups would make it difficult for day to day business. Imagine how long an application form would be if you included all the possible human mixes in the world just to cater for one or two individuals.I myself say I'm full black but in reality my Grandad is Indian. So if I was to be specific I'd say something like I'm mainly Capoid & part Caucasoid. See how unecessary that is.

[Bardissimo]

A lot of it is down to the way people look physically.I mean my girlfriend is just as black as Obama but her skin is a lot lighter yet she has never in her life been referred to as a black person. If she was to become prime minister would not be referred to in the media as 'The first black PM'Ignorance really.

I think a lot of it is to do with which parent is black. mixed race people with white dad's generally look (and to a certain extent act) more white than black and vice versa.

Bullshit.

not even when i think about itthose wit white mothers seem to be them roadish niggers and they have that darker tone of skin whereas those wit white dads have fairer complexions and act differently

[Frank Furta]

Everyones a half chap deep down.

[General Mac]

That White Dad Black Mum, Black Dad White Mum observation is plausible but is total nonsense. It all depends which partners genetics are more prominent. I've seen many a mixed race person with vice versa parents and yes some fit your observation but some just do not. Look at Obama, if he spent 2 weeks in Zimbabwe and went back to America, He'd look like a 100% Black person simply because of the sun and his already pronounced nose.Mariah Carey and Wentworth Miller on the other hand. I refuse to call them black. It's even hard to call them mixed race

[Seth Rollins]

Having this discussion ends 1 way on RWD/VIP2. 20 pages of going round and round and the usual suspects getting wound up and someone else saying some dumb sh*t.It all boils down to one thing. IGNORANCE. Unfortunately this is one thing in this world that will NEVER disappear.

[Drift]

basically having 1 visible drop of non-white genes = not white.thats why mixed race people usually get classed as black or whatever ethnicity theyre mixed with. but especially with half blacks half whites because the black community usually accepts them. stupidly.

[Em Dott]

Having this discussion ends 1 way on RWD/VIP2. 20 pages of going round and round and the usual suspects getting wound up and someone else saying some dumb sh*t.It all boils down to one thing. IGNORANCE. Unfortunately this is one thing in this world that will NEVER disappear.

C/SMight as well lock this thread. Sorry Kap, but this kind of sh*t never goes to plan. Too many stupid people have access to the forum.

[Lucarelli]

bare mix race man love to beg

[General Mac]

Well it has been proven, Black people are most probably the most accepting and welcoming race on the planet. Others go through one racial struggle and identify with black people and feel the need to be apart of something that has dealt with similar circumstances.The one drop rule thing is such a hideous concept. If we where to apply it world wide, that would mean North Africans, Arabs, ALL of South America, Some of South East Asia would be without choice: Black

[Seth Rollins]

bare mix race man love to beg

Exhibit A.

[Alejandro Sosa]

Well it has been proven, Black people are most probably the most accepting and welcoming race on the planet.

where

[General Mac]

Well it has been proven, Black people are most probably the most accepting and welcoming race on the planet.

where

Socially. Look around bro. Look around. Mixed Race people call them selves BlackI've come accross many Moroccans, Philipinos, Sri Lankans that classify themselves as BlackI could go onI mean ask a Black guy to venture into a predominently White social setting and he will most definitely be skeptical about it. However you see many a White guy and girl comfortably socialising in groups of predominently black people, wether it be in clubs, bars, restaurants, at home etc...You get it? It's ofcourse not a WorldWide generalisation, I'm talking Major cities. We all know some tribesman from the heart of the Amazon wouldn't be as welcoming due to whatever cultural protocol