gattsu Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 look at chun in super , top teir with out any major buff , and a.huge damage nerfimo vipers burn kick bring that safe was op against any character who didn't have a dp or escape route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Em Dott Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 No it wasn't at all. Block and punch viper out since normals can beat a BK. LP, HK and HP can beat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattsu Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 who's normals you talking about?its not just bk being spamable is about them being safe means you have to guess every second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Stinson Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 When is AE expected? SF is kinda dead for me atm, but I've been finding myself in Casino during lunch and after work a lot more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Yeah I'll be up for it.Team name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Diskenth Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Aint seen my don Natty in timeor any of you mani will land UC3 to catch jokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixer152 Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 GG today medic uve improved alot since last time we playedWanted to see your Guile though. And I just started using Ibuki yesterday still need to work on my defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain capo Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Yeah I'll be up for it.Team name?You pick one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Medic Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 GG today medic uve improved alot since last time we playedWanted to see your Guile though. And I just started using Ibuki yesterday still need to work on my defenseGGs, next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Em Dott Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 who's normals you talking about?its not just bk being spamable is about them being safe means you have to guess every second.They were never safe, it's just there is a sh*t load more recovery in SSF4 on them. I promise you, open up Vanilla, put it in, set training dummy to spam sjc bks, pick Chun, Ryu or whoever and mash normals when one is blocked and play around with it and you will see them stop BKs. I even went Casino recently and played some scrub Ryu who would mash jab and beat the BKs. It's like the MP>>MPTK strings. They were never safe, you could mash, it's just most people tried to use a normal which is why you could continue running it over and over. If you mash DP it's game over. Block or backdash with Chun and you are safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattsu Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 who's normals you talking about?its not just bk being spamable is about them being safe means you have to guess every second.They were never safe, it's just there is a sh*t load more recovery in SSF4 on them. I promise you, open up Vanilla, put it in, set training dummy to spam sjc bks, pick Chun, Ryu or whoever and mash normals when one is blocked and play around with it and you will see them stop BKs. I even went Casino recently and played some scrub Ryu who would mash jab and beat the BKs. It's like the MP>>MPTK strings. They were never safe, you could mash, it's just most people tried to use a normal which is why you could continue running it over and over. If you mash DP it's game over. Block or backdash with Chun and you are safe. but if you do something else I get hit, if I back dash of you siesmo or cross up bk I get hitits a 7/6 -3/4 match up for a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Em Dott Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Bro, that's the same with anything else. I could go for a throw and you mash EX Legs. You have to always guess. That's not specific to Chun and Viper, that's the whole game.And forgot all that 5/5, 6/4 tier list gas because it's not as easy as you put it. Chun can easily cause problems to Viper. All you have to do is knock Viper down and that's not hard at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattsu Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 it applys to the whole game but some characters more than others viper is hard to block n defend against at times on not saying I agree with I just understand why they did all your air bk's are plus on block and frame data says that the ground ones are as unsafe as bison's knee press, but at the same time I know jack shot about viper , the match is harder for chun as zoning don't apply to viper and chun don't have a reversal that works well, what can I do when your knocked down c.mk OS with ex legs , don't work if you have 1 bar then I can't touch youI ain't played you in a while still , I wanna play your viper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Team UnluckyyyI can't even log on to NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Em Dott Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 it applys to the whole game but some characters more than others viper is hard to block n defend against at times on not saying I agree with I just understand why they did all your air bk's are plus on block and frame data says that the ground ones are as unsafe as bison's knee press, but at the same time I know jack shot about viper , the match is harder for chun as zoning don't apply to viper and chun don't have a reversal that works well, what can I do when your knocked down c.mk OS with ex legs , don't work if you have 1 bar then I can't touch youI ain't played you in a while still , I wanna play your viperMay be online this weekend. My 360 is at my girls house so it also depends whether or not I'm spending time with her or someone else is using the main TV. Haven't played consistently in a while so I need to pick up my skill level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 @ SkemarJustin makes mvc2 look boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanceW Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 FFS Im gonna have to get ur 360 by hand. Everyone keeps forgetting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 FFS Im gonna have to get ur 360 by hand. Everyone keeps forgetting it UnluckIn the snow and all sortsSSF4 is in the xbox when i come back the day before UC3 come mine and stay over and make sure you bring my xbox with you please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Diskenth Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 when is UC3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Chiles Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 who wants to team up for UC3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixer152 Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 @ SkemarJustin makes mvc2 look boringMVC2 IS boring when played "properly". well boring to watch anyway/How can I lose to shortyBBK today in a endless battle. flowchart ryu mashing SRK was too much for my day one Ibuki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 who wants to team up for UC3?Yeah lets do itTeam name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Em Dott Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Yo Chuck, wasn't airing you just had to head to the kitchen to sort out some food.Like I said, it will take a while to get all of her sh*t down. Even after playing for a while you can still miss some SJC and I see guys like Sanford and Uryo messing up at times. It's part and parcel of the character. No one is perfect. I mean I had the Dominican Downgrade. When I came back after that holiday I couldn't do FFF to save my life and would play swag. You just need to keep training and learn what works for you. You only been learning he for like 2 week properly, you still have a long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain capo Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Use Vega, Viper sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Chiles Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 who wants to team up for UC3?Yeah lets do itTeam name?i dont care reallybut sign me up as Omega Red or Dexter Morgan not Grim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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