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(360) Super Street Fighter IV AE Thread


Roy Batty

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GG's man.Viper is a broken bitch , its just on this occasion you weren't doing a lot of sh*t I've seen you and other Vipers do in the past. Like: You weren't even doing st.lk st.lk cr.mp xx thunder knuckle to start the mixup. You weren't doing crossup burn kicks much (you underestimate how hard they are to block, for me at least).You weren't abusing seismo chains like you did last time we played.You weren't using cr.mp cr.hp and burn kicks to beat my throw tech attempts.I think the reason you weren't winning as many games as you should have is because you let me get away for free most times, for example you threw me on wake up bare which just allowed me to tech and get back to a position where I could just space you out with normals , and it was clear you had trouble getting in, however, saying that , you should use LP thunder knuckle a bit more to beat the majority of my pokes.If i'm honest , Vega handles most of the cast with relative ease (few exceptions obviously , Yun Bison Cammy for example) until they get in.Once they get in its a free for all. Your Ken is alright aswell but I've never really sat down and thought about the Ken matchup , I just play it like Ryu but I have to be a bit more aware of my teching and safe jumps.I'm sorry i'm probably sounding like a bastard but theres no point me just saying "GG's" and not telling you what I think you can do to improve init.

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Nah that's good sh*t. For me I don't think seismo chains work as well because Vega has too many off the ground moves. Footsies it's out of there. And the cross up BKs are all good until you block. No real frame advantage means Vega presses a button and wins. Will have to experiment a lot more and BTW Viper can't really crouch tech. MP is too slow. WIll head back to he lab and see what's up.As for my Ken he's just someone I felt like learning for fun. There is a lot to him man plus I thoguht learning him would help me when playing him with Viper but TBH I am still going to learn Sagat as a secondary for AE.

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Nah that's good sh*t. For me I don't think seismo chains work as well because Vega has too many off the ground moves. Footsies it's out of there. And the cross up BKs are all good until you block. No real frame advantage means Vega presses a button and wins. Will have to experiment a lot more and BTW Viper can't really crouch tech. MP is too slow. WIll head back to he lab and see what's up.As for my Ken he's just someone I felt like learning for fun. There is a lot to him man plus I thoguht learning him would help me when playing him with Viper but TBH I am still going to learn Sagat as a secondary for AE.
After the burn kick , I don't even know the frames , it looks pretty safe, but I know if i press HK it beats you trying to burn kick again. You said you're gonna go training mode anyway , I beg you tell me the results of what Vega/Viper can do after a blocked instant burn kick.And I meant using cr.mp and hp in your strings to beat my crouch tech like in this video :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHGpvQTt7NQ6:35 in this video for example , just absolutely pies Ryan's tech attempts.I'll be on in a bit if anyone else wants to play , want to try out some stuff.
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I do that. But Vega is completely different in those tech attempts to Ryu, and virtually every other character for that sh*t. The ground Vega covers with his normals makes those anti tech normals significantly harder.

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They are because there is not a single person who can play every character across the board and know them in depth enough to know the good and bad. ANd if it is a range of people, some will gas themselves up or over estimate certain things. eg. Flash doesn't think Blanka is a hard match at all when it is in actuality very tough.

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that's not how the sf4 teir list works though man its match up based but if the best of the best played each other although I see where you are comming from, chun Li was top teir in super despite akuma, viper, cammy , and rufus raped her

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GG's Geo.I got some things to say about your Cody if that's cool:Use your pokes a bit more , from times when I've played packz I know that st.mk , cr.lk (xx mk ruffian like cr.mk xx fireball with ryu) , st.lk and st.hk are all pretty decent pokes.Use rocks man. When I was playing you I could just sit about halfway across the screen and just poke you to 40% health, because all of Vega's normals are easymode to use. If you use rocks , Ill aim to avoid chip , I can't press so many buttons and I have to walk towards you and jump and you can easily anti air me and all that. You need to change up your combos coz you're missing out on bare damage. Cody does far far far too much damage for a normal character. For example, after a crumple, you can do f+mp , close mp , cr.hp xx criminal upper for retarded damage. Also on this point, sometimes , it's better to end your combos with different things instead of always criminal upper , e.g , cl.mp into sweep for that hard knockdown and safe jump that comes with it.I think you should mix up your strings and throw a bit more aswell because you were just doing bare f+mp , cr.lp cr.lp , f+mp and I knew you weren't going to throw after a while so I didn't even bother teching just let you get on with it. You have to throw me to start getting me to tech and then you can use crack kick and ex zonk to blow up my techs.and sometimes I think you should just throw on wakeup , you'll be surprised how much it hits.Anyway, yeah man GG's. From now on when I'm playing anyone from here I'm always gonna post anything I think you can change and improve on after.

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