Telling the truth

[Cipher]

lmfaocipher how long will these rules remain parrallel to the years you have left on this earth?its real talk and sounds great and would make a good love story but fam this isnt a soap opera its real life what you put there is more like a guideline for some (go ahead and say me for the sake of confrontation if you will) basically these rules shouldnt be preached they should be BACKED and when they are TRULY BACKED it will show in society around us.now you look around YOU and you tell me if what your saying is just a HINT of a myth only way them rules can really exist is if ya spend most of ya life in bed and dont interact with people.im playing devils advocate here but i kid you not.dont shoot the messenger

@ The first line.Fam...I know you think because of what I say i am living in some FAIRYTALE world. But...I dont expect OTHERS to follow the guidelines I set for myself, I am merely dissapointed when they dont. Which nobody does. for whatever reason.All I know is, what I say is BACKED by ME, more time it doesnt matter too much if anybody else backs it.I aint givin up my principles/what I know is right because it has beocme accepted that society is a basin of sh*t & filth.I know what everyone says & does, are often two completely different things, but I practice what I preach otherwise I would keep my mouth closed & not be so opiniated on such things.It would be much easier to do the complete opposite..Come back to the Idealist side, you will like it here.

[FACE OFF]

lmfaocipher how long will these rules remain parrallel to the years you have left on this earth?its real talk and sounds great and would make a good love story but fam this isnt a soap opera its real life what you put there is more like a guideline for some (go ahead and say me for the sake of confrontation if you will) basically these rules shouldnt be preached they should be BACKED and when they are TRULY BACKED it will show in society around us.now you look around YOU and you tell me if what your saying is just a HINT of a myth only way them rules can really exist is if ya spend most of ya life in bed and dont interact with people.im playing devils advocate here but i kid you not.dont shoot the messenger

@ The first line.Fam...I know you think because of what I say i am living in some FAIRYTALE world. But...I dont expect OTHERS to follow the guidelines I set for myself, I am merely dissapointed when they dont. Which nobody does. for whatever reason.All I know is, what I say is BACKED by ME, more time it doesnt matter too much if anybody else backs it.I aint givin up my principles/what I know is right because it has beocme accepted that society is a basin of sh*t & filth.I know what everyone says & does, are often two completely different things, but I practice what I preach otherwise I would keep my mouth closed & not be so opiniated on such things.It would be much easier to do the complete opposite..Come back to the Idealist side, you will like it here.

pffffft who says im not on your side who says my side isnt even more righteous than yours? what cos of what i say on vip? lmfao like ANYONE on here mentions EVERYTHING.

[Seth Rollins]

some people are being unrealistic if you ask me there is honesty and there is stupidity.

Stupidity is the thing you've done wrong, honesty is what THEY deserve.*Justice*---------------------------------------------------------You're telling them, so that they know what kind of person they're dealing with. Then THEY can make the choice. Once you f*cked up, how can u have the cheek to take the decision out of their hands?Big disrespekk ya nah bredrin. Nah sah uno cyaan do dat my yute!

[Cipher]

lmfaocipher how long will these rules remain parrallel to the years you have left on this earth?its real talk and sounds great and would make a good love story but fam this isnt a soap opera its real life what you put there is more like a guideline for some (go ahead and say me for the sake of confrontation if you will) basically these rules shouldnt be preached they should be BACKED and when they are TRULY BACKED it will show in society around us.now you look around YOU and you tell me if what your saying is just a HINT of a myth only way them rules can really exist is if ya spend most of ya life in bed and dont interact with people.im playing devils advocate here but i kid you not.dont shoot the messenger

@ The first line.Fam...I know you think because of what I say i am living in some FAIRYTALE world. But...I dont expect OTHERS to follow the guidelines I set for myself, I am merely dissapointed when they dont. Which nobody does. for whatever reason.All I know is, what I say is BACKED by ME, more time it doesnt matter too much if anybody else backs it.I aint givin up my principles/what I know is right because it has beocme accepted that society is a basin of sh*t & filth.I know what everyone says & does, are often two completely different things, but I practice what I preach otherwise I would keep my mouth closed & not be so opiniated on such things.It would be much easier to do the complete opposite..Come back to the Idealist side, you will like it here.

pffffft who says im not on your side who says my side isnt even more righteous than yours? what cos of what i say on vip? lmfao like ANYONE on here mentions EVERYTHING.

Didnt say that, but concerning the things I say regarding relationships etc...I am exactly as I say I am on here.You seem too much like the things that you have experianced have influenced you negatively more than positively.At least is to say, you have a quite pessimistic view of things.BUt then obviously I aint sayin you mention everything etc.But its just like you think I should be like "they do it, f*ck it, why not me?"

[FACE OFF]

bah im batman i am justice

[Cipher]

Know what, Ignore the positive/negative thing, was dumb.

[Cipher]

f*ck batman & robin...

[FACE OFF]

Know what, Ignore the positive/negative thing, was dumb.

not at all i believe that your posts has actually made SOMEONE decide to not have sex today because its wrongbut i believe what i have said has made a bag of people feel less guilty for being unfaithful bastards and bitchesshame on you all.

[Em Dott]

I am in no way trying to say honesty deserves redemption. I'm saying I would be honest because I am man enough to accept the consequences. I'm saying if you have the balls to cheat, you need to have the balls to confess becuase you are doing someone wrong and it is selfish.

[Seth Rollins]

bah im batman i am justice

Get that bitch out the avatar then come talk to me nephew.LMFAO!*Justice*

[Benicio del Toney]

I am in no way trying to say honesty deserves redemption. I'm saying I would be honest because I am man enough to accept the consequences. I'm saying if you have the balls to cheat, you need to have the balls to confess becuase you are doing someone wrong and it is selfish.

Of course its selfish but look at it this way.You have your wife, everythings great but man can be man and hit next p*ssy regardless IMO.So you tell wifey and she dumps you, future done, all the plans you had done.You coulda kept your mouth shut and 30 years down the line have you and hers grankids be running to you lot calling you "grandpa"Youre gona throw all that away over some weak burning sensation inside your chest?Cos you hit some loose p*ssy that didnt mean anything 2 seconds later?Nah man its never that, not for me anyway.Yeah its being selfish but whats to say she will ever be happy like she was in your relationship again?30 years down the line she might be lonely and single and wish she hadnt of dumped you OR EVEN wish you hadnt of told her.Honesty AINT always the best policy.Just look at the Native Americans and who profited from "honesty", cos with 5 of them scattered about the USA it sure as hell wernt them.

[Scorpzz]

I'd lie, just keep that sh*t to yrself.bun f*cking up the relationship. but if you get caught, deal with it init.not promoting cheating tbh.

[Social]

selfish people,there is no such thing as a mistake,people just want to have there cake and eat it too,these type of people are snakes and i try to avoid these in my infantry division.if my girl cheats on me but says it ment nothing,well thats not for her to say because its not her who is affected by it.it wud certainly mean something to me.i wud like to know if im being taken for a prick for the duration of my lifetime by the person im supposed to be trusting so i can end it there and then regardless,as i have known temptation just as you have,but recognise that a shared life is not mine to indulge myself relentlessly in secret or i wud choose the single life,in short i am not a spoilt childdo unto others as you wud have done to you,basic sh*t,but people nowadays like to live by cynical tenets such as 'graveyards are full of heroes' and 'real men cheat',its just a club for cowards to feel they are big,or living in the 08 ghetto.bare mute witnesses scared of being called a snitch by hell rell if they have a backbone.society hasnt undergone a seismic shift to the extent were all values are left in 1999,u're just one of the weaker members of society,you are the problem.we are the solution.my soldiers are surrounded by sh*t on all sides here,but we dont fight for personal gain,we carry the burden of the turncoats,snitches and deserters,that outnumber us five hundred to a man.though we know the battle may not be won we live by principles that are set by men who in times of war will do godly things along the path of righteousness to pass down this legacy to future generations in the hope they will build a better future for themselves and mankind,though we are humble , surrounded by yellow bellied pigs we become gods amongst men,in a sea of rats we are lions,illuminated against the moon in blood and glory,relentless against the marching tide,in short,we were soldiers*disclaimer-some aspects of speech were influenced by the motion picture troy,available from most stockists on dvd,also hamburger hill,similarly available

[GoldCoast]

some people have very strong opinions about this stillbut anyway she will never ever find out by herself bcos like i said it was one off and she doesnt suspect anything, neither have i given her the reason to think i'll cheatmy main worry is if the table was turned would i expect my woman to tell me the truth or would i even want to knowbut thanks for the opinions i've made a decision for myself already

[Em Dott]

I commend people who say they wouldn't want to know or wouldn't care. If I found out my girl cheated on me, I'm sorry but she is dead to me. She has snaked me, and it will an even bigger violation becuase she has got the closest to me. I'm a firm believer in not keeping snakes in my circle, and once a snake becomes apparent, they are gone from my life. There would be no point me forgiving her or giving her another chance, because I would be telling her subconciously that the baehaviour is acceptable, and I would trust her anymore, so the relationship would crumble anyways.

[Cipher]

@ ToneyIF you want that 30 years down the line sh*t, think about that before f*cking the next person.People always act like they have no control over what happens regarding their own actions. Its dumb.As you said, you losing out on a relationship you wanted to be in would mean in YOUR INTERESTS honesty isnt the best policy for you.Dont act like the girl wouldnt go have all this 30 years later sh*t with a next man anyway, maybe he would be faithful. Maybe he wouldnt but that aint the point.

[smaddy]

selfish people,there is no such thing as a mistake,people just want to have there cake and eat it too,these type of people are snakes and i try to avoid these in my infantry division.if my girl cheats on me but says it ment nothing,well thats not for her to say because its not her who is affected by it.it wud certainly mean something to me.i wud like to know if im being taken for a prick for the duration of my lifetime by the person im supposed to be trusting so i can end it there and then regardless,as i have known temptation just as you have,but recognise that a shared life is not mine to indulge myself relentlessly in secret or i wud choose the single life,in short i am not a spoilt childdo unto others as you wud have done to you,basic sh*t,but people nowadays like to live by cynical tenets such as 'graveyards are full of heroes' and 'real men cheat',its just a club for cowards to feel they are big,or living in the 08 ghetto.bare mute witnesses scared of being called a snitch by hell rell if they have a backbone.society hasnt undergone a seismic shift to the extent were all values are left in 1999,u're just one of the weaker members of society,you are the problem.we are the solution.my soldiers are surrounded by sh*t on all sides here,but we dont fight for personal gain,we carry the burden of the turncoats,snitches and deserters,that outnumber us five hundred to a man.though we know the battle may not be won we live by principles that are set by men who in times of war will do godly things along the path of righteousness to pass down this legacy to future generations in the hope they will build a better future for themselves and mankind,though we are humble , surrounded by yellow bellied pigs we become gods amongst men,in a sea of rats we are lions,illuminated against the moon in blood and glory,relentless against the marching tide,in short,we were soldiers*disclaimer-some aspects of speech were influenced by the motion picture troy,available from most stockists on dvd,also hamburger hill,similarly available

great speechtouched me deeply, specially the bits in yellow

[Benicio del Toney]

@ ToneyIF you want that 30 years down the line sh*t, think about that before f*cking the next person.People always act like they have no control over what happens regarding their own actions. Its dumb.As you said, you losing out on a relationship you wanted to be in would mean in YOUR INTERESTS honesty isnt the best policy for you.Dont act like the girl wouldnt go have all this 30 years later sh*t with a next man anyway, maybe he would be faithful. Maybe he wouldnt but that aint the point.

Of course that is the ideal way to tackle the situation, no1's disputing that, this topic is about a stage further though so this becomes irrelevant.Goldcoast wanted opinions on what he should do, not what he should have done.

[Benicio del Toney]

I commend people who say they wouldn't want to know or wouldn't care. If I found out my girl cheated on me, I'm sorry but she is dead to me. She has snaked me, and it will an even bigger violation becuase she has got the closest to me. I'm a firm believer in not keeping snakes in my circle, and once a snake becomes apparent, they are gone from my life. There would be no point me forgiving her or giving her another chance, because I would be telling her subconciously that the baehaviour is acceptable, and I would trust her anymore, so the relationship would crumble anyways.

I agree with all of the abovebut put yourself in the situation like I said, 30 years later, 50 years old, beautiful kids and grandkids with the same woman youre with now.She tells you about 30 years ago when she slept with another guy, how would you feel?Looking at your situation now, would you wish you could go back in time so she could have told you then?

[Cipher]

@ ToneyIF you want that 30 years down the line sh*t, think about that before f*cking the next person.People always act like they have no control over what happens regarding their own actions. Its dumb.As you said, you losing out on a relationship you wanted to be in would mean in YOUR INTERESTS honesty isnt the best policy for you.Dont act like the girl wouldnt go have all this 30 years later sh*t with a next man anyway, maybe he would be faithful. Maybe he wouldnt but that aint the point.

Of course that is the ideal way to tackle the situation, no1's disputing that, this topic is about a stage further though so this becomes irrelevant.Goldcoast wanted opinions on what he should do, not what he should have done.

Agreed, but I am saying BECAUSE that he did not consider this fact, he has to to accept the responsability.the decision isnt his to make whether she should stay with him or not.

[Benicio del Toney]

Hmm maybe, but if he keeps stum him and his wifey can be a success.Most of the success stories of this world have some kind of corruption or crookedness behind them.

[Cipher]

Hmm maybe, but if he keeps stum him and his wifey can be a success.Most of the success stories of this world have some kind of corruption or crookedness behind them.

I disagree...if we are talking about financial then yes, but otherwise I'd say no.Relationships may triumph over adversity etc..(no cheese) and become stronger, but when there is dishonesty etc it will generalyl start to eat away at the relationship...one way or another.Though I see his point.

[LadyOG]

If I found out my man had cheated on me when we were together and he didnt tell me I would kill him. Because he doesn't respect me for me and him to be boppin on the street with people knowing that he did that and I'm carrying on with life naive as f*ck.Its not acceptable. When you got your moment of weakness you would have hurt me ultimately anyway so you need to give me that little bit of dignity and admit what you did. Then it is my decision as to whether we stay together or not. I think it is selfish and disrespectful for someone to cheat on their partner and keep quiet about it.You need to be honest and tell them what happened and let them then decide whether you stay together or not. No matter how 'perfect' you are for eachother and no matter how beautiful your future looked together, the moment you cheat on your partner IMO you have forfeited the right to ensure that beautiful future for yourself.

[LadyOG]

Hmm maybe, but if he keeps stum him and his wifey can be a success.Most of the success stories of this world have some kind of corruption or crookedness behind them.

Then are they really truely successful? Not to me.

[GoldCoast]

its not so black and white like some of you people are making it seem, either options have consequences you might not be ready to deal with. Just wait till you are in that situation.