grime Has ''Road Rap'' Taken Grimes Place?

[Guest Braundy]

Road Rap has definitely taken Grime's place, and quite rightly so. kids are blastin this on their phones jus like wen Grime dropped. i've never rated the 'UK Hip Hop' Scene. wen Grime came along i saw it as the REAL DEAL, what we'd been waiting for. our own sh*t. pirate radio, eskimo dances, clashes, classic sets, are to Grime what the block partys and sh*t were to Hip Hop.out of that tho Road Rap has been born with artists like SN1 championing the first 'credible' Gangsta RAP. these people came from Grime. Grime people came from Garage, Garage from Jungle, Jungle from House. UK Hip Hop guys came from their older brother playin them a KRS One record and the rest bein history. Tryna uphold the four pillars etc, relying on the white middle class crowd US Hip Hop had already conquered in the 80s and 90s.Grime has the streets.now these guys have the streets, and Hip Hop has never truly had the streets here imo. bravo to Giggs an dem lot.

this is what i keep tellin pplevolutionthink of the crocodile as road rap n grime the dinosaurboth around in the same areabut one will outlive the otherno point draggin a dead horse, ppl want Credible street music, n road rap is that rightbt the transition is not done, there will still be a few gd grime ttunes for the next 2 years before a kind of comprimise is reached

[Roy Batty]

Giggs isn't the entire scene of UK Rap music. He is Giggs. It's skewing your perceptions of how successful this type of music can be. It's a transitory interest because there's a gap that isn't being filled.

[Lucarelli]

Road rap is so boring... some dead vibe... bare slow dont even care about road talk if the vibe is deadGrime >>>>>>> that dead sh*tpeople jus looking for somthing new to jump onalso "road rap" is just some rebore gangsta rap english ppl are too fickle anyway.... anytime anything has anything going for it... ppl are quick to dismiss ithappened with jungle, garage, and now grime... reason why Hip Hop in american did so well and became a top genre is cos ppl put there hearts and souls in to that sh*t and believed in it and backed from daynot just jump on it cos its the in thing then dismiss it soon as it gets a little sucessful

[Creamy]

Giggs isn't the entire scene of UK Rap music. He is Giggs.

which makes his success that much more commendable. the youts traded in countless grime clips, dubs, instrumentals on their phone for near enough one artist. and let's not dismiss the fact he is actually an artists. don't go on like Grime weren't jus Wiley & Dizzee for a lot of people way back wen.

It's skewing your perceptions of how successful this type of music can be. It's a transitory interest because there's a gap that isn't being filled.

could have said the same thing bout Grime.regardless of whether this scene/genre does have true success, the seed has been planted, and as i said b4 UK Hip Hop has never had the streets like this b4 so bravo. for the moment this is where the interest lies and that should be applauded.

[darkman]

Who else is getting ratings apart from Giggs though?

[Guest28]

grime is sh*t.i blame tinchy stryder.

tinchy is one of the best all round grime artists tbhive always like 'road rap', just seemed more realistic cos grime mccs used to over exaggerate

4 real as u get older u just realize this guy is chatting sh*t like in their bars they say "I" 542512351 times in a song

[Lucarelli]

^^^jesus jus shut the f*ck up

[Avon Barksdale]

Who else is getting ratings apart from Giggs though?

Young SprayKyzaDubsJoe BlackMorrisionoff the top of my head

[darkman]

Who else is getting ratings apart from Giggs though?

Young SprayKyzaDubsJoe BlackMorrisionoff the top of my head

Not on Giggs levels though

[Avon Barksdale]

Who else is getting ratings apart from Giggs though?

Young SprayKyzaDubsJoe BlackMorrisionoff the top of my head

Not on Giggs levels though

Soz

[bladerunner]

Darkman is right.Other than Giggs the others are just at the same level as other UK hip hop personnelguys are just on a hype

[Roy Batty]

Giggs has one song as well. It is a problem. You won't find me saying Grime is some super healthy, over-real thriving scene. But there's 10 artists in major label situations off the back of it. There's none from this road thing. And you can't hear it out either.I'll big up successful people all day. If you get into the music BUSINESS then nothing else matters. And Giggs has carved some success out for himself which he deserves after rapping since he was all 16 17 years old. But unless someone somewhere comes out with another track which is an absolute f*ck*ng monster and it actually gets released, then Road Rap will just stay what it is.That's not even a problem because the people who do it, don't really do it to make money. And the people who listen to artists like Dubs, Kyza and Spray for the majority don't follow it because it is successful.Like I said before, the people who grew up on So Solid, HLC and PAUG then Nasty and Roll Deep have just drifted due to a complete lack of a functioning Grime infrastructure. If you want to rave you check for Funky raves. If you want to relate to lyrics from someone who isn't trying to be American, you check for the latest Big Ride mix tape.

[Creamy]

Giggs has one song as well. It is a problem. You won't find me saying Grime is some super healthy, over-real thriving scene. But there's 10 artists in major label situations off the back of it. There's none from this road thing. And you can't hear it out either.

Grimes been going for 6 years tho

Like I said before, the people who grew up on So Solid, HLC and PAUG then Nasty and Roll Deep have just drifted due to a complete lack of a functioning Grime infrastructure. If you want to rave you check for Funky raves. If you want to relate to lyrics from someone who isn't trying to be American, you check for the latest Big Ride mix tape.

Grime always tried to be american on the sly, not stylistically, but secretly. then it weren't no secret anymore and it ended. as more an more Grime artists were checkin for Rick Ross and Young Jeezy etc, so did the fans, and now you've got ur UK Young Jeezy in someone like Giggs.i aint sayin this has the life in it Grime had (f*ck success), but it is now and ur jus nit picking at it tbh. woulda been super easy to do the same with Grime using Garage as ur case study back then.

[bladerunner]

i disagree that grime has always tried to be american...

[Creamy]

i disagree that grime has always tried to be american...

a lot of sh*t made its way over, jus like it did from Bashmentto me it was the sly way people were imitating people like Dipset on the DVDs back in 2003/4, and then come 2006 wen bare guys had got fully on the coke rap style, everyone was tryna buss some next 'swagger' in their videos like "look, we got our own thing", Ruff Sqwad bein a perfect examplei'm selling Grime short here cos STYLISTICALLY THEY WERE NOT IMITATING which made Grime as good as it could bei've always maintained the relationship Grime had with Bashment was far closer

[scared of who?]

Road Rap has definitely taken Grime's place, and quite rightly so. kids are blastin this on their phones jus like wen Grime dropped. i've never rated the 'UK Hip Hop' Scene. wen Grime came along i saw it as the REAL DEAL, what we'd been waiting for. our own sh*t. pirate radio, eskimo dances, clashes, classic sets, are to Grime what the block partys and sh*t were to Hip Hop.out of that tho Road Rap has been born with artists like SN1 championing the first 'credible' Gangsta RAP. these people came from Grime. Grime people came from Garage, Garage from Jungle, Jungle from House. UK Hip Hop guys came from their older brother playin them a KRS One record and the rest bein history. Tryna uphold the four pillars etc, relying on the white middle class crowd US Hip Hop had already conquered in the 80s and 90s.Grime has the streets.now these guys have the streets, and Hip Hop has never truly had the streets here imo. bravo to Giggs an dem lot.

this is what i keep tellin pplevolutionthink of the crocodile as road rap n grime the dinosaurboth around in the same areabut one will outlive the otherno point draggin a dead horse, ppl want Credible street music, n road rap is that rightbt the transition is not done, there will still be a few gd grime ttunes for the next 2 years before a kind of comprimise is reached

Cant co-sign. Road Rap didn't evolve from Grime and there is no correlation between the success in one scene and the downfall in another. I think they can both co-exist. Garage/Grime was the first MC'ing platform and opened the door for UK spitters, but this new wave of rap is exactly the same as the first wave of UK Hip Hop.Just swap Wu Tang, Rza, Mobb Deep, Nas, Boot Camp Klik, Tapes, Westwood etc, With Jeezy, Worldstar, Wayne etc.Road Rap will suffer the same fate as well, because their aint no infastructure there. The reason only a specific demographic f*cks with UKHH is because the backpackers been trying to recreate that Illmatic sound for the past 15 years. I see the same thing in trap rap except these man trying to be Jeezy, A-Mafia, Officer Ross et al.Now Giggz did well because he had Boomblast backing him and he's created products that are quite credible, even though its nowhere near as good as the US rap I f*cks with. However there aint enough good beatmakers, to create a healthy scene. Young Spray IMO, is the best UK rapper atm and I dont think its coincidental that the majority of the beats he spits on are popular US ones.In regards to grime its dying slowly now, but something new will come along. Rap is filling the void for, but there aint no longevity in it unless it steps up.

[FANTA]

as soon as 'road rap' builds an infrastructure i think it'll be healthy.

[Creamy]

Road Rap has definitely taken Grime's place, and quite rightly so. kids are blastin this on their phones jus like wen Grime dropped. i've never rated the 'UK Hip Hop' Scene. wen Grime came along i saw it as the REAL DEAL, what we'd been waiting for. our own sh*t. pirate radio, eskimo dances, clashes, classic sets, are to Grime what the block partys and sh*t were to Hip Hop.out of that tho Road Rap has been born with artists like SN1 championing the first 'credible' Gangsta RAP. these people came from Grime. Grime people came from Garage, Garage from Jungle, Jungle from House. UK Hip Hop guys came from their older brother playin them a KRS One record and the rest bein history. Tryna uphold the four pillars etc, relying on the white middle class crowd US Hip Hop had already conquered in the 80s and 90s.Grime has the streets.now these guys have the streets, and Hip Hop has never truly had the streets here imo. bravo to Giggs an dem lot.

this is what i keep tellin pplevolutionthink of the crocodile as road rap n grime the dinosaurboth around in the same areabut one will outlive the otherno point draggin a dead horse, ppl want Credible street music, n road rap is that rightbt the transition is not done, there will still be a few gd grime ttunes for the next 2 years before a kind of comprimise is reached

Cant co-sign. Road Rap didn't evolve from Grime and there is no correlation between the success in one scene and the downfall in another. I think they can both co-exist. Garage/Grime was the first MC'ing platform and opened the door for UK spitters, but this new wave of rap is exactly the same as the first wave of UK Hip Hop.Just swap Wu Tang, Rza, Mobb Deep, Nas, Boot Camp Klik, Tapes, Westwood etc, With Jeezy, Worldstar, Wayne etc.Road Rap will suffer the same fate as well, because their aint no infastructure there. The reason only a specific demographic f*cks with UKHH is because the backpackers been trying to recreate that Illmatic sound for the past 15 years. I see the same thing in trap rap except these man trying to be Jeezy, A-Mafia, Officer Ross et al.Now Giggz did well because he had Boomblast backing him and he's created products that are quite credible, even though its nowhere near as good as the US rap I f*cks with. However there aint enough good beatmakers, to create a healthy scene. Young Spray IMO, is the best UK rapper atm and I dont think its coincidental that the majority of the beats he spits on are popular US ones.In regards to grime its dying slowly now, but something new will come along. Rap is filling the void for, but there aint no longevity in it unless it steps up.

i agree with what you sayi jus see a lot of these rappers can be found on a grime beat somewhere a few years agounlike say a backpacker bein found on a garage or jungle beat way back wenplus my original point is jungle/ukg/grime is street music, and now rap in this country is street music, and u could kno everything there is to kno about the KRS One / Marly Marl beef and still never have been able to get thereplus this hype was kick started by PDC, Northstar and dem guys right? aint really like Giggs is the 1st, jus the best so far.

[Creamy]

oh and the other thing is Road Rap has stolen Grime's audience, something UK Hip Hop could never have done.

[Numero001]

Is road rap really that popular? Obvi Funky is the scene right about now, so I dont really hear people talking about any of the road rap yutes apart from Giggs.What evidence is there to suggest road rap is doing it? None of my friends or acquaintances listen to it, meaning I havent got sh*t to judge it by

[Lord Flashheart]

Grimes been going for 6 years tho

You know man like Giggs, Kyze, Spray etc are all Wiley's age and have been doing rap for nearly 10 years now right? And about wanting to be american, English people in general want to be american. Go look in the 'What Clothes I Bought Which I Saw In A US Video' threads where people are arguing about chasing the American Dream in the baitest logod up 'designer' wear popping off Champs and doing their best Max B/Gucci impressions. It's not even a black thing, we've been trying to slyly be american since the second world war when the GIs all came over and f*cked all the women.

[Creamy]

Is road rap really that popular? Obvi Funky is the scene right about now, so I dont really hear people talking about any of the road rap yutes apart from Giggs.What evidence is there to suggest road rap is doing it? None of my friends or acquaintances listen to it, meaning I havent got sh*t to judge it by

no offence, but i hate it wen black people talk about 'funky' on here. funky is DEAD, has been for two years plus. wot u are hearin is commercial house, about funky, thats 9 years ago blad.

its nuts how ppl are saying 'road rap' and 'ukhh' like they are different things. i see y its done and i agree but it should be the same which is one of the problems with uk street music.

its true thoUK Hip Hop is a million miles away from this new scene. street music is the tag i give it and Jehst is from the country, not even the burbs, the country

Grimes been going for 6 years tho

You know man like Giggs, Kyze, Spray etc are all Wiley's age and have been doing rap for nearly 10 years now right? And about wanting to be american, English people in general want to be american. Go look in the 'What Clothes I Bought Which I Saw In A US Video' threads where people are arguing about chasing the American Dream in the baitest logod up 'designer' wear popping off Champs and doing their best Max B/Gucci impressions. It's not even a black thing, we've been trying to slyly be american since the second world war when the GIs all came over and f*cked all the women.

loltbh, anyone with any level of success should've been honing their skills for some time, we are jus quick to forget this cos we saw so many people in Grime get recognition off one riddim or one quick one line flow

[Lord Flashheart]

no offence, but i hate it wen black people talk about 'funky' on here. funky is DEAD, has been for two years plus. wot u are hearin is commercial house, about funky, thats 9 years ago blad.

Stoppred reading after this nonsense tbh

[Creamy]

no offence, but i hate it wen black people talk about 'funky' on here. funky is DEAD, has been for two years plus. wot u are hearin is commercial house, about funky, thats 9 years ago blad.

Stoppred reading after this nonsense tbh

you're prolly who i'm talkin bout then aren't u

[Lord Flashheart]

I cant talk to you. You sit in your yard downloading Morrison CDs whilst I am out raving to Marcus and Supa D playing Funky.