You are a feminist.

[Supermalt]

I would personally put it that we have different roles to play that compliment each other to maintain the balance.

and thats all there is to it.

its when theres an upset to that balance is when things get toxic

If this was all there was to it then I wouldn't be so worried

Its these jilted man hating opportunists that mess everything up by using the feminist movement to push their hateful agendas to cause chaos and destruction

They think they can do what they want and they are out of control. Its a vicious cycle

Yep.

When the conversation gets emotional everyone loses, and applies both ways.

End of the day no breh with sense will take a woman that acts like a faux male seriously.

[Grafter]

 

 

I would personally put it that we have different roles to play that compliment each other to maintain the balance.

 

and thats all there is to it.

 

its when theres an upset to that balance is when things get toxic

 

 

If this was all there was to it then I wouldn't be so worried

 

Its these jilted man hating opportunists that mess everything up by using the feminist movement to push their hateful agendas to cause chaos and destruction

 

They think they can do what they want and they are out of control. Its a vicious cycle 

 

 

women aren't the only ones messing it up

men can be misogynists, chauvinists, women haters (gay and straight)

all these type of men are messing up the balance also

 

then add in trannies and the fact that a man can win woman of the year

[Drift]

Women are 10000% responsible for that tranny shit. "omg SHE'S so brave!"

[Grafter]

Its a result of western societies unhealthy idolisation of men. Whats happening now harkens back to ancient greece and its no surprise because in the west that civilisation is looked upon like a blue print

Thats babylon for you an we shouldn't subscribe to these ideologies. They have no interest in equality

[Guest PrincessAb]

 

 

I would personally put it that we have different roles to play that compliment each other to maintain the balance.

 

and thats all there is to it.

 

its when theres an upset to that balance is when things get toxic

 

 

If this was all there was to it then I wouldn't be so worried

 

Its these jilted man hating opportunists that mess everything up by using the feminist movement to push their hateful agendas to cause chaos and destruction

 

They think they can do what they want and they are out of control. Its a vicious cycle 

 

Feminist is not synonymous with "man hating". I think some men feel threatened by women stating they want equal rights, because in order for men and women to have equal rights men would have to let go of their inherent privileges.

[Supermalt]

Not threatened

What privileges should be forfeited?

[Guest PrincessAb]

If you believe males and females do not have equal rights you must accept that you have some form of male privilege. For example: gender inequality in senior positions of the workplace,the wage gap, the sexual double standard, not fearing rape, not being told how to dress in order "to avoid rape", not being expected to aspire to have children or become a father to the same extent as women, not being called bossy/bitchy when in leadership positions etc

[SLEAZE BALL]

Whole post is nonsense tbh

NONSENSE

[Thizz]

I agree with the last one.

 

One before that is ridiculous.

[Heero Yuy]

Last one I can agree sorta agree with, rest is actually nonsense.

[Drift]

wage gap is a myth

[Supermalt]

Covered all the standard feminist commandments.

All goes back to the school of thought that there are absolutely no differences between men and women, which is bullshit.

The day a penis is worth as much as a vagina is the day sexual 'double standards' cease to exist.

Let's put victimization arguements to the side, what can a woman not do to better herself in 2016 that a man can?

[underwriter]

you want equality...

 

 

 

women, pay the full bill upon first encounter and subsequent encounters with men when going on dates

 

 

done

[Thizz]

 

Yeah that sorts it all.

[Guest PrincessAb]

The glass ceiling effect/wage gap is very real unfortunately:

 

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/03/daily-chart-1

 

I've been told that if women want to avoid rape "they should just dress appropriately". So in the summer you expect women to wear a burqa?

 

Scientific studies have repeatedly shown the differences between males and females are minimal if at all present. The lock/key analogy is bs.

 

and women paying on the first date, well that would be fine if men and women earned the same salary... Oh wait on average men out earn women 

[Supermalt]

Scientific studies have repeatedly shown the differences between males and females are minimal if at all present. The lock/key analogy is bs.

Sources?

[Drift]

The glass ceiling effect/wage gap is very real unfortunately:

 

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/03/daily-chart-1

 

I've been told that if women want to avoid rape "they should just dress appropriately". So in the summer you expect women to wear a burqa?

 

Scientific studies have repeatedly shown the differences between males and females are minimal if at all present. The lock/key analogy is bs.

 

and women paying on the first date, well that would be fine if men and women earned the same salary... Oh wait on average men out earn women 

 

no one bite

[Guest PrincessAb]

 

Scientific studies have repeatedly shown the differences between males and females are minimal if at all present. The lock/key analogy is bs.

Sources?

 

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16173891

 

Take a look at any neuroscientific journal and you'll find results stating that men are superior on one measure (with a tiny effect size) and then women superior on another. Gender socialization accounts for a significant proportion of the differences seen between males and females.

 

If anything, you could argue women are the superior sex: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-real-reason-women-outlive-men-its-all-a-matter-of-breeding-2115643.html

 

Male privileged doesn't mean life is easy for men and women have nothing but problems, but I think you need to acknowledge that we live in a patriarchal society.

[PascalMoriarty]

 

 

Scientific studies have repeatedly shown the differences between males and females are minimal if at all present. The lock/key analogy is bs.

Sources?

 

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16173891

 

Take a look at any neuroscientific journal and you'll find results stating that men are superior on one measure (with a tiny effect size) and then women superior on another. Gender socialization accounts for a significant proportion of the differences seen between males and females.

 

If anything, you could argue women are the superior sex: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-real-reason-women-outlive-men-its-all-a-matter-of-breeding-2115643.html

 

Male privileged doesn't mean life is easy for men and women have nothing but problems, but I think you need to acknowledge that we live in a patriarchal society.

 

 

Do you not think women have had a hand in allowing such patriarchal societies, or is the insinuation that women have from the dawn of time been oppressed by men?

[Supermalt]

Haha, what a reach. Might as well get into nazi racial science.

That socialization noise has never had legs.

If feeling superior with no receipts makes you sleep at night, then why not. Smh, no better than men who bash women.

No differences between men and women, but but women are superior....okay.

(Drift I'm biting)

[Grafter]

there have been civilizations which were matriarchies

even today there are certain places that are real real matriarchies

 

 

right now,  for the most part,  its man's time but the tables will turn, this is the cycle of the world

[Grafter]

 

Civilisation has given humanity extraordinary advances - codes of law and commerce, science and art. But what does it look like from the point of view of women? Travelling from the nomadic worlds of the Eurasian steppes to the early civilisations of Mesopotamia, Egypt, ancient Greece and Rome, Dr Amanda Foreman explores how early civilisations dealt with the roles and status of women and, in so doing, she asks some profound questions about the legacy they've left behind.

 

In Anatolia, she visits Catalhöyük, one of the world's earliest settlements, which archaeologists believe held remarkably different notions of gender. From Mesopotamia, she explores the world's first law codes written to regulate women's status and behaviour, including the world's first known veiling law dating from 1350 BC, two millennia before the advent of Islam.

 

Across Europe and the Near East, she uncovers a group of extraordinary women who created their own routes to power in male-dominated worlds. These include Enheduanna, the world's first recorded author, the Ukok Ice Maiden, one of the great archaeological discoveries of the 20th century, and Hatshepsut, one of ancient Egypt's most successful but most maligned ruling queens. Crucially, she also explores the darker legacy of gender inequality in ancient Greece, whose influential ideas on the inferiority of women have cast a long shadow over women's lives across the globe to this day. Amanda's approach aims to profoundly alter the accepted view of civilization once and for all.

 

 

The Ascent of Women

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0693y0j

 

I would encourage you all to watch this. I watched episode 1, felt enlightened. I actually don't think that synopsis does it enough justice but I suppose they don't want to spoil it. 

Its not on i player right now but it is on other streaming sites

[Supermalt]

there have been civilizations which were matriarchies

even today there are certain places that are real real matriarchies

 

 

right now,  for the most part,  its man's time but the tables will turn, this is the cycle of the world

Nah, when and where? Why have these societies not thrived?

I thought the goal of feminism was equality not superiority?

[PascalMoriarty]

 

there have been civilizations which were matriarchies

even today there are certain places that are real real matriarchies

 

 

right now,  for the most part,  its man's time but the tables will turn, this is the cycle of the world

Nah, when and where? Why have these societies not thrived?

I thought the goal of feminism was equality not superiority?

 

 

[Grafter]

look im not a feminist but I do believe in the equality of all human beings. Saying the tables will turn is just my prediction

 

watch the documentary

 

Now im not saying I would prefer any of the places below, just saying they exist (chose the most clear ones from the lists):

 

THE MOSUO, CHINA
Deep in south-west China lies Lugu Lake, a place known as the Kingdom of Women. Here you’ll find the 40,000-strong Mosuo, one of the world’s last matrilineal societies. As befits a culture with no word for ‘father’ or ‘husband’, Mosuo women do not marry. Instead, they take as many lovers as they wish, cherry-picking them from within the tribe and inviting them for secret evening trysts (usually after the men have spent all day slaughtering pigs, while females sort out household finances). Property is handed down through the female line and there’s no stigma in not knowing who a child’s father is. Such matriarchal utopia does have drawbacks – curious visitors have descended upon the once-isolated region under the mistaken suggestion Mosuo women offer free sex. Sadly, some of the previously peaceful villages have been overrun with hotels, casinos, karaoke and even a red-light district.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2013/03/05/where-women-rule-the-world-matriarchal-communities-from-albania-to-china-3525234/#ixzz3xEeGxJoi

 

 

 

MEGHALAYA, INDIA

According to the Guinness Book of Records, the hilly Indian state of Meghalaya is the rainiest place on Earth. And in its tribal populations, it also boasts one of the world’s few surviving matrilineal systems – where women, rather than men, own land and property. Tradition dictates that the youngest daughter in the family inherits all the property as well as acting as caretaker of aged parents and unmarried siblings. As for the Meghalaya menfolk, a suffragette movement has sprung up, with men’s right groups claiming matrilineal culture is breeding generations of gents who fall short of their potential, subsequently slipping into alcoholism and drug abuse.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2013/03/05/where-women-rule-the-world-matriarchal-communities-from-albania-to-china-3525234/#ixzz3xEeZ6wEI

 

 

 

 

Minangkabau

At four million people, the Minangkabau of West Sumatra, Indonesia, (pictured above, during a harvest season celebratino) are the largest known matrilineal society today. In addition to tribal law requiring all clan property to be held and bequeathed from mother to daughter, the Minangkabau firmly believe the mother to be the most important person in society.

In Minangkabau society, women usually rule the domestic realm while the men take the political and spiritual leadership roles. However, both genders feel theseparation of powers keeps them on an equal footing. Upon marriage, every woman acquires her own sleeping quarters. The husband may sleep with her, but must leave early in the morning to have breakfast at his mother’s home. At age 10, boys leave their mother’s home to stay in men's quarters and learn practical skills and religious teachings. While the clan chief is always male, women select the chief and can remove him from office should they feel he failed to fulfill his duties. 

 

 

 

 

 

The Bribri are a small indigenous group of just over 13,000 people living on a reserve in the Talamanca canton in the Limón province of Costa Rica. Like many other matrilineal societies, the Bribri are organized into clans. Each clan is made up of extended family, and the clan is determined through the mother/females. Women are the only ones who traditionally can inherit land. Women are also endowed with the right to prep the cacao used in sacred Bribri rituals.

 

 

http://mentalfloss.com/article/31274/6-modern-societies-where-women-literally-rule

 

As i say, we can all see its a man's world over all, currently...