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Aziz Ansari accused of sexual misconduct

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dunno about readin that but my man is always roasting for birds

constant subject on his stand up

in his show he's always pulling pengers

doesnt bother me tho

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Prime example of two people reading an identical situation completely differently. When you think of the spectrum in this scenario, it ranges to a girl feeling uncomfortable that she did something, to a girl saying to her friends I wanted to fuck but he seemed like he didn't want to (Because the man was being overly cautious).

Like if you asked most women out there in public, they'd agree that no means no. But how many of them would admit to being finessed out of that position themselves, The open public opinion on this is a largely unanimous front, as most women don't want to admit they can be unlocked with the right cheat codes.

 

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I wouldnt say they were cheat codes at all

Definitely a part of the original plot line 

Certain females desire to be unlocked as they themselves will not make or suggest a move 

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"They walked the two blocks back to his apartment building, an exclusive address on TriBeCa’s Franklin Street, where Taylor Swift has a place too. When they walked back in, she complimented his marble countertops. According to Grace, Ansari turned the compliment into an invitation.

“He said something along the lines of, ‘How about you hop up and take a seat?’” Within moments, he was kissing her. “In a second, his hand was on my breast.” Then he was undressing her, then he undressed himself. She remembers feeling uncomfortable at how quickly things escalated.

When Ansari told her he was going to grab a condom within minutes of their first kiss, Grace voiced her hesitation explicitly. “I said something like, ‘Whoa, let’s relax for a sec, let’s chill.’” She says he then resumed kissing her, briefly performed oral sex on her, and asked her to do the same thing to him. She did, but not for long. “It was really quick. Everything was pretty much touched and done within ten minutes of hooking up, except for actual sex.”

She says Ansari began making a move on her that he repeated during their encounter. “The move he kept doing was taking his two fingers in a V-shape and putting them in my mouth, in my throat to wet his fingers, because the moment he’d stick his fingers in my throat he’d go straight for my vagina and try to finger me.” Grace called the move “the claw.”

Ansari also physically pulled her hand towards his penis multiple times throughout the night, from the time he first kissed her on the countertop onward. “He probably moved my hand to his d*ck five to seven times,” she said. “He really kept doing it after I moved it away.”

But the main thing was that he wouldn’t let her move away from him. She compared the path they cut across his apartment to a football play. “It was 30 minutes of me getting up and moving and him following and sticking his fingers down my throat again. It was really repetitive. It felt like a fucking game.”

Throughout the course of her short time in the apartment, she says she used verbal and non-verbal cues to indicate how uncomfortable and distressed she was. “Most of my discomfort was expressed in me pulling away and mumbling. I know that my hand stopped moving at some points,” she said. “I stopped moving my lips and turned cold.”

Whether Ansari didn’t notice Grace’s reticence or knowingly ignored it is impossible for her to say. “I know I was physically giving off cues that I wasn’t interested. I don’t think that was noticed at all, or if it was, it was ignored.”

Ansari wanted to have sex. She said she remembers him asking again and again, “Where do you want me to fuck you?” while she was still seated on the countertop. She says she found the question tough to answer because she says she didn’t want to fuck him at all.

“I wasn’t really even thinking of that, I didn’t want to be engaged in that with him. But he kept asking, so I said, ‘Next time.’ And he goes, ‘Oh, you mean second date?’ and I go, ‘Oh, yeah, sure,’ and he goes, ‘Well, if I poured you another glass of wine now, would it count as our second date?’” He then poured her a glass and handed it to her. She excused herself to the bathroom soon after.

Grace says she spent around five minutes in the bathroom, collecting herself in the mirror and splashing herself with water. Then she went back to Ansari. He asked her if she was okay. “I said I don’t want to feel forced because then I’ll hate you, and I’d rather not hate you,” she said.

She told babe that at first, she was happy with how he reacted. “He said, ‘Oh, of course, it’s only fun if we’re both having fun.’ The response was technically very sweet and acknowledging the fact that I was very uncomfortable. Verbally, in that moment, he acknowledged that I needed to take it slow. Then he said, ‘Let’s just chill over here on the couch.’”

This moment is particularly significant for Grace, because she thought that would be the end of the sexual encounter — her remark about not wanting to feel “forced” had added a verbal component to the cues she was trying to give him about her discomfort. When she sat down on the floor next to Ansari, who sat on the couch, she thought he might rub her back, or play with her hair — something to calm her down.

Ansari instructed her to turn around. “He sat back and pointed to his penis and motioned for me to go down on him. And I did. I think I just felt really pressured. It was literally the most unexpected thing I thought would happen at that moment because I told him I was uncomfortable.”

Soon, he pulled her back up onto the couch. She would tell her friend via text later that night, “He [made out] with me again and says, ‘Doesn’t look like you hate me.’”

Halfway into the encounter, he led her from the couch to a different part of his apartment. He said he had to show her something. Then he brought her to a large mirror, bent her over and asked her again, “Where do you want me to fuck you? Do you want me to fuck you right here?” He rammed his penis against her ass while he said it, pantomiming intercourse.

“I just remember looking in the mirror and seeing him behind me. He was very much caught up in the moment and I obviously very much wasn’t,” Grace said. “After he bent me over is when I stood up and said no, I don’t think I’m ready to do this, I really don’t think I’m going to do this. And he said, ‘How about we just chill, but this time with our clothes on?’”

They got dressed, sat side by side on the couch they’d already “chilled” on, and he turned on an episode of Seinfeld. She’d never seen it before. She said that’s when the reality of what was going on sank in. “It really hit me that I was violated. I felt really emotional all at once when we sat down there. That that whole experience was actually horrible.”

While the TV played in the background, he kissed her again, stuck his fingers down her throat again, and moved to undo her pants. She turned away. She remembers “feeling in a different mindset at that point.”

“I remember saying, ‘You guys are all the same, you guys are all the fucking same.’” Ansari asked her what she meant. When she turned to answer, she says he met her with “gross, forceful kisses.”

After that last kiss, Grace stood up from the couch, moved back to the kitchen island where she left her phone, and said she would call herself a car. He hugged her and kissed her goodbye, another “aggressive” kiss. When she pulled away, Ansari finally relented and insisted he’d call her the car. “He said, ‘It’s coming, but just tell them your name is Essence,’” she said, a name he has joked about using as a pseudonym in his sitcom.

She teared up in the hallway, outside his place, pressing the down button on the elevator. The Uber was waiting when she left the building. He asked if she was Essence, she said yes, and then she rode back to her Brooklyn apartment. “I cried the whole ride home. At that point I felt violated. That last hour was so out of my hand.”

 

Way too many no signals.

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“I’m so sad to hear this,” he allegedly responded. “All I can say is, it would never be my intention to make you or anyone feel the way you described. Clearly, I misread things in the moment and I’m truly sorry.”

 

His response via text.

 

“In September of last year, I met a woman at a party. We exchanged numbers. We texted back and forth and eventually went on a date,” said Ansari in a statement given to PEOPLE. “We went out to dinner, and afterwards we ended up engaging in sexual activity, which by all indications was completely consensual.”

Continued the statement, “The next day, I got a text from her saying that although ‘it may have seemed okay,’ upon further reflection, she felt uncomfortable. It was true that everything did seem okay to me, so when I heard that it was not the case for her, I was surprised and concerned. I took her words to heart and responded privately after taking the time to process what she had said.”

“I continue to support the movement that is happening in our culture. It is necessary and long overdue.”

 

His statement.

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that's what i'm saying the events of the night were interpreted differently at the time by both parties. Upon reflection he's admitted that he read the situation  wrong, hindsights a wonderful thing.

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Can't see why she went public when his apology seemed sincere

If he did think all that was ok the its a much deeper issue

I cant comment on the events more than that. I dno what to say at all

Some man u jus say no once an thats it. Some man insist on verbal consent

Others...boy...

It's all crazy

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If she didn't want to do anything she should have said no then dress herself, like any other girl would 

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I wonder sometimes if these girls would’ve took that same nonsense if it was Gary from slug and lettuce moving like that.

 

i know that’s not here or there but still, thought provoking.

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8 hours ago, Badman said:

I wouldnt say they were cheat codes at all

Definitely a part of the original plot line

Yeah, I mean it was probably on a plate for this guy and he fucked it up with his over zealous behaviour.

I dunno where he got the idea women liked fingers being put down their throat, I'm reading it like wtf.

But once you fuck up the mood then you have to write it off for the night or atleast change your style and go submissive.

This guy seems mad thirsty from what I read, when Local said he is generally roasting I wasn't surprised.

May be a sex addict or something.

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2 hours ago, Badman said:

If she didn't want to do anything she should have said no then dress herself, like any other girl would 

Not necessarily

This is a very deep subject

An the younger you are as a woman the less equipped you are for these situations. Nobody teaches you anything about this sort of thing. We all jus left to figure it out through trial

She might have felt afraid or I dno i really cant speak for her only speculate with a smidge of empathy

 

/ @Heero Yuy

Quite possibly, if she liked him enough to go back to his appartment certainly it could happen.

She wasn't with him to get something that we kno of or on a promise of a job...

Please dont think its only men with good jobs or even jobs full stop that get away with this. Its mad

 

An not everyone has a basic level of confidence across their lives that would help them manage this situation

She could be the sort of person who lives by expectation, this isn't uncommon to some degree or other

The key point of all this malarchi imo is that women need to be taught to value themselves from day dot. If she valued herself certainly she would have left the moment she was uncomfortable

Things were crappy an she still tried to salvage the evenin, hopeful for what reason?

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Think he meant that this Aziz guy ain't pulling if he's not famous 

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Reading her side, which is proper detailed, seems like dude was too excited

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Oh ok

Aziz is good lookin, maybe he wouldn't be successful due to his personality

But i strongly believe anyone can get it in jus depend how u act

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43 minutes ago, Grafter said:

Oh ok

Aziz is good lookin, maybe he wouldn't be successful due to his personality

 

you sayin shit like this makes me very insecure about the fact you think / know im buff

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1. Nothing wrong with short men

2. Hes not my type but cant see him havin a problem gettin women based on his physical appearance ( obviously not everyones cup of tea but hardly anyone is)

 

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sounds to me she regrets just being a number and wanted to hold out on the bang so she could get more from him like a full on relationship, but went along anyway fearing if she dont bang that night she wont get the chance later and possibility of a relationship becomes 0.

 

 

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had enough of women regretting sex and then crying rape/assault/being taken advantage of like why cant men cry these same things, the amount of tings id never have beat if i wernt intoxicated/roasting/playing wing man/looking to make my hotel count

the regrets ive had after

imagine breeding one of these tings

2018 mandem need to speak up and put girls that take advantage of our situations on blast like these bitches do

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If you really feeling violated/taken advantage of then you should speak your truth

It's that season

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4 hours ago, Grafter said:

Not necessarily

This is a very deep subject

An the younger you are as a woman the less equipped you are for these situations. Nobody teaches you anything about this sort of thing. We all jus left to figure it out through trial

She might have felt afraid or I dno i really cant speak for her only speculate with a smidge of empathy

 

I hear that but if its the case that signals were misunderstood and she concluded that she didnt handle the situation the way she would have liked, surely she should learn from her mistakes and make sure the next time she wont find herself in the same situation...perhaps even educating others around her so they dont go through what she did?

However,

Does all of this mean that donny was in the wrong?

Does this make him a sexual predator?

What does she hope to achieve by making this public?

Its not really a question of empathy if her motives are such that it could potentially ruin someones life

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17 hours ago, Thizz said:

"They walked the two blocks back to his apartment building, an exclusive address on TriBeCa’s Franklin Street, where Taylor Swift has a place too. When they walked back in, she complimented his marble countertops. According to Grace, Ansari turned the compliment into an invitation.

“He said something along the lines of, ‘How about you hop up and take a seat?’” Within moments, he was kissing her. “In a second, his hand was on my breast.” Then he was undressing her, then he undressed himself. She remembers feeling uncomfortable at how quickly things escalated.

When Ansari told her he was going to grab a condom within minutes of their first kiss, Grace voiced her hesitation explicitly. “I said something like, ‘Whoa, let’s relax for a sec, let’s chill.’” She says he then resumed kissing her, briefly performed oral sex on her, and asked her to do the same thing to him. She did, but not for long. “It was really quick. Everything was pretty much touched and done within ten minutes of hooking up, except for actual sex.”

She says Ansari began making a move on her that he repeated during their encounter. “The move he kept doing was taking his two fingers in a V-shape and putting them in my mouth, in my throat to wet his fingers, because the moment he’d stick his fingers in my throat he’d go straight for my vagina and try to finger me.” Grace called the move “the claw.”

Ansari also physically pulled her hand towards his penis multiple times throughout the night, from the time he first kissed her on the countertop onward. “He probably moved my hand to his d*ck five to seven times,” she said. “He really kept doing it after I moved it away.”

But the main thing was that he wouldn’t let her move away from him. She compared the path they cut across his apartment to a football play. “It was 30 minutes of me getting up and moving and him following and sticking his fingers down my throat again. It was really repetitive. It felt like a fucking game.”

Throughout the course of her short time in the apartment, she says she used verbal and non-verbal cues to indicate how uncomfortable and distressed she was. “Most of my discomfort was expressed in me pulling away and mumbling. I know that my hand stopped moving at some points,” she said. “I stopped moving my lips and turned cold.”

Whether Ansari didn’t notice Grace’s reticence or knowingly ignored it is impossible for her to say. “I know I was physically giving off cues that I wasn’t interested. I don’t think that was noticed at all, or if it was, it was ignored.”

Ansari wanted to have sex. She said she remembers him asking again and again, “Where do you want me to fuck you?” while she was still seated on the countertop. She says she found the question tough to answer because she says she didn’t want to fuck him at all.

“I wasn’t really even thinking of that, I didn’t want to be engaged in that with him. But he kept asking, so I said, ‘Next time.’ And he goes, ‘Oh, you mean second date?’ and I go, ‘Oh, yeah, sure,’ and he goes, ‘Well, if I poured you another glass of wine now, would it count as our second date?’” He then poured her a glass and handed it to her. She excused herself to the bathroom soon after.

Grace says she spent around five minutes in the bathroom, collecting herself in the mirror and splashing herself with water. Then she went back to Ansari. He asked her if she was okay. “I said I don’t want to feel forced because then I’ll hate you, and I’d rather not hate you,” she said.

She told babe that at first, she was happy with how he reacted. “He said, ‘Oh, of course, it’s only fun if we’re both having fun.’ The response was technically very sweet and acknowledging the fact that I was very uncomfortable. Verbally, in that moment, he acknowledged that I needed to take it slow. Then he said, ‘Let’s just chill over here on the couch.’”

This moment is particularly significant for Grace, because she thought that would be the end of the sexual encounter — her remark about not wanting to feel “forced” had added a verbal component to the cues she was trying to give him about her discomfort. When she sat down on the floor next to Ansari, who sat on the couch, she thought he might rub her back, or play with her hair — something to calm her down.

Ansari instructed her to turn around. “He sat back and pointed to his penis and motioned for me to go down on him. And I did. I think I just felt really pressured. It was literally the most unexpected thing I thought would happen at that moment because I told him I was uncomfortable.”

Soon, he pulled her back up onto the couch. She would tell her friend via text later that night, “He [made out] with me again and says, ‘Doesn’t look like you hate me.’”

Halfway into the encounter, he led her from the couch to a different part of his apartment. He said he had to show her something. Then he brought her to a large mirror, bent her over and asked her again, “Where do you want me to fuck you? Do you want me to fuck you right here?” He rammed his penis against her ass while he said it, pantomiming intercourse.

“I just remember looking in the mirror and seeing him behind me. He was very much caught up in the moment and I obviously very much wasn’t,” Grace said. “After he bent me over is when I stood up and said no, I don’t think I’m ready to do this, I really don’t think I’m going to do this. And he said, ‘How about we just chill, but this time with our clothes on?’”

They got dressed, sat side by side on the couch they’d already “chilled” on, and he turned on an episode of Seinfeld. She’d never seen it before. She said that’s when the reality of what was going on sank in. “It really hit me that I was violated. I felt really emotional all at once when we sat down there. That that whole experience was actually horrible.”

While the TV played in the background, he kissed her again, stuck his fingers down her throat again, and moved to undo her pants. She turned away. She remembers “feeling in a different mindset at that point.”

“I remember saying, ‘You guys are all the same, you guys are all the fucking same.’” Ansari asked her what she meant. When she turned to answer, she says he met her with “gross, forceful kisses.”

After that last kiss, Grace stood up from the couch, moved back to the kitchen island where she left her phone, and said she would call herself a car. He hugged her and kissed her goodbye, another “aggressive” kiss. When she pulled away, Ansari finally relented and insisted he’d call her the car. “He said, ‘It’s coming, but just tell them your name is Essence,’” she said, a name he has joked about using as a pseudonym in his sitcom.

She teared up in the hallway, outside his place, pressing the down button on the elevator. The Uber was waiting when she left the building. He asked if she was Essence, she said yes, and then she rode back to her Brooklyn apartment. “I cried the whole ride home. At that point I felt violated. That last hour was so out of my hand.”

 

Way too many no signals.

lol man was doing bare madness and she still didnt give him that firm no

these times gary from slug and lettuce woulda caught a stiletto to the neck

i dont have the patience for these chicks fuck her

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