"Ashman You're running out of arguments"

[Mr Q]

Alleged jumping of housing queues by new arrivals is a myth, research reveals· Most rent privately or are owner-occupiers · No evidence of bias against British-bornAlan Travis, home affairs editor The Guardian, Monday April 21 2008 Article historyAbout this articleClose This article appeared in the Guardian on Monday April 21 2008 on p10 of the UK news section. It was last updated at 09:30 on April 21 2008.

There is no evidence that new migrants are jumping the queue for council and housing association homes to the detriment of any other group, including white families, according to new research.The study, published by the Equality and Human Rights Commission and the Local Government Association, found that more than 60% of new migrants to Britain in the last five years are living in private rented accommodation, with most newly arrived migrants banned from access to social housing.The study, carried out by the Institute for Public Policy Research, follows claims by the culture minister, Margaret Hodge, and others last year that the housing system gives priority treatment to recently arrived migrant families over the entitlement that others felt they had to resources in the community. The interim findings of the research, based on a snapshot of council housing allocations and a poll of local authority housing managers, says there is no evidence to suggest that the present system of social housing demonstrates measurable bias against any group, including UK-born nationals.The IPPR study shows that out of the 10.1 million council and housing association tenants in Britain, 9 million are UK-born and just over 1 million were born outside the country. It adds that only 183,300 - less than 2% - of tenants arrived in Britain in the last five years and most of the 1 million are long-settled migrants who have been here for years and may have become British citizens.The analysis of housing for new migrants to the UK who have arrived over the last five years, including those from Poland and other east European countries, shows 60% living in private rented accommodation, 18% owner-occupiers and only 11% allocated to social housing.Trevor Phillips, chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, said the findings were a broad indication that the system was working fairly for all groups. "What's clear is that there is a gap between supply and demand of social housing, of which the presence of immigrants is a relatively small element, but often a highly visible one."Danny Sriskandarajah, of the IPPR, said there was no more emotive combination of issues in British life than immigration and housing: "As we near local elections, we risk being swamped by myths about queue-jumping foreigners. We have found no evidence of a systematic bias in favour of migrants. Where there is need, migrant families seem to be rightfully allocated social housing."Hodge sparked a row with fellow politicians and refugee groups last May when she suggested in the Observer that newly arrived immigrants were being given priority for scarce social housing over British-born families.She said the government "prioritised the needs of an individual migrant family over the entitlement that others feel they have to resources in the community".The MP for Barking, in east London, continued: "We should look at policies where the legitimate sense of entitlement felt by the indigenous family overrides the legitimate need demonstrated by the new migrants." Her comments won the approval of the BNP, which said she deserved "a word of compliment ... for her efforts to raise the thorny issue of social housing for native Britons". Hodge said that her article had been misinterpreted, adding that she wanted refugees excluded from any housing restrictions.Most new migrants in the past five years, particularly those from the eight east European countries which joined the EU in 2004, are not eligible for social housing unless they have been resident in the UK and in work for at least 12 months. Any application they make must meet the same criteria of need as UK-born applicants.According to the latest figures for 170,263 lettings in the social housing sector in 2006-07 in England, where the nationality of the named tenant was collected, less than 5% went to foreign nationals and less than 1% went to new migrants from eastern Europe.The picture is confirmed by the results of a poll of 66 housing managers across Britain, of whom 74% said they believed that migrants had "not very much" or "no" impact on increased demand for housing in the social rented sector, while 66% said they had increased pressure on private rented accommodation.The study found that despite a lack of evidence to support allegations of queue-jumping, such claims were widely repeated and the perception remained. The authors suggest one explanation may be that much of the private rented housing which is let to newly arrived migrants tends to be former council homes which have been sold off in hard-to-let blocks in run-down areas, and locals may assume it is still council accommodation.

[YGNB]

hmm

[Guest Cousin Of Sleep]

Would have much prefered if the title said 'oxygen' but meh.

[Mizchif]

"Owwwwwwwww you gonna have that bruv. He basically cussed your mum. Deep I wouldn't have it"

[JLovely]

*Waits for Ashman to post*

[Guest Cousin Of Sleep]

people r ALWAYS whining

Correct.

[Sid]

Listen..you can believe whatever any newspaper tells you to keep you calm.You can believe any government statistic you wish to believe.Until you have seen it with your own eyes, you will never understand.I have seen it with my own eyes..you ang tight for my documentary coming soon.p.s. Enoch Powell was right.

[Angelo]

Why give this guy any more attention?

[Sid]

white poeple stil find somethin 2 bitch aboutthey started with blacks.. went onto asians... stuck with asians for a whilerecently started on the eatern european ivan dragos ... now they r bitching about petrol and taxeswhite people r ALWAYS whining

If you don't like it, you know where the airport is.>

[LuLu]

white poeple stil find somethin 2 bitch aboutthey started with blacks.. went onto asians... stuck with asians for a whilerecently started on the eatern european ivan dragos ... now they r bitching about petrol and taxeswhite people r ALWAYS whining

If you don't like it, you know where the airport is.>

[OVER STARISH]

Skeet skeet

[YGNB]

white poeple stil find somethin 2 bitch aboutthey started with blacks.. went onto asians... stuck with asians for a whilerecently started on the eatern european ivan dragos ... now they r bitching about petrol and taxeswhite people r ALWAYS whining

Hey at least we haven't got such a large chip on our shoulder that we feel the need to kill whites along with ourselves

[LuLu]

people r ALWAYS whining

INCorrect.

[JLovely]

Enoch Powell was right you say? LOLSome joker.

[Numero001]

These things are meant to be started in the daytime so the 9-5 crew have a topic whilst at work man

[Tyler Durden]

white poeple stil find somethin 2 bitch aboutthey started with blacks.. went onto asians... stuck with asians for a whilerecently started on the eatern european ivan dragos ... now they r bitching about petrol and taxeswhite people r ALWAYS whining

FAIL!

[Sid]

white poeple stil find somethin 2 bitch aboutthey started with blacks.. went onto asians... stuck with asians for a whilerecently started on the eatern european ivan dragos ... now they r bitching about petrol and taxeswhite people r ALWAYS whining

Hey at least we haven't got such a large chip on our shoulder that we feel the need to kill whites along with ourselves

Spuds*

[Guest Cousin Of Sleep]

people r ALWAYS whining

INCorrect.

Not possible.beg you all just be happy.

[Sid]

These things are meant to be started in the daytime so the 9-5 crew have a topic whilst at work man

Oh right.. do you mean where you are in work, the job that consumes your energy and efforts in order to provide your hard earned money that pays for people like me?I will work at your place if you get to surf hereall day..Any jobs going mate?

[Tyler Durden]

Even though Sean Ash has said a lot of stupid stuff in the past he does bring up good points.

[djbmc]

white poeple stil find somethin 2 bitch aboutthey started with blacks.. went onto asians... stuck with asians for a whilerecently started on the eatern european ivan dragos ... now they r bitching about petrol and taxeswhite people r ALWAYS whining

u moan more than anyone else on here

[Sid]

people r ALWAYS whining

INCorrect.

Not possible.beg you all just be happy.

I am happy.It's just debate.If people take it personal, that's not my problem. I am probably laughing with a smug look on my face when everyone here is crying about something.

[Guest Cousin Of Sleep]

About 2 replies since this was made have been relevant to the initial topic, pathetic.

[Sid]

ashman im lookin 4ward 2 watching ur documentary u knowreal talk, u gona up it on the net yeah?this documentary will prove da sh*t u go thru, make a topic reminding me or suttin when its finished..

I will do..and remember, not just the sh*t that I go through, but the sh*t that many white, black and asian British go through everyday because of Immigration and our participation in the Lisbon Treaty.. sorry I mean the EU constitution.

[Guest Cousin Of Sleep]

people r ALWAYS whining

INCorrect.

Not possible.beg you all just be happy.

I am happy.It's just debate.If people take it personal, that's not my problem. I am probably laughing with a smug look on my face when everyone here is crying about something.

lol @ me only just clocking you were ashman.beg you please raise your kids to be tolerant.