Mr Q Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Thank god this season is over. I dont think many of us can complain about finishing sixth considering the pathetic start we had. We were so close to administration!! Fack. A lot of work need to be done and done fast during the summer if we want to make good progress next year. Width and Left Back need to be addressed. Need a lot more creativity and pace in the team. Let silly season begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp* Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 2 defeats since Kenny signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trim Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 c/s all of that. been a mad season tbh Alot of positives since Kenny returned and Clarke came in and an impressive points tally from the team working under the two of them, was fantastic to see him given the job full time and Clarke given a deal to stay aswell. Interested to see what happens with all the loanees returning, theres alot of players we loaned out, some are good enough imo some definately need to be sold. Dudek and Hyypia both retired end of this season, great memories from both. Hope to see Sami return as a coach sometime soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2011/05/liverpools-future-strategy.html If ever a football club’s season could be described as the proverbial “game of two halves” that would be the one experienced by Liverpool fans this year. Following Roy Hodgson’s appointment as manager last July as the replacement for the popular Rafael Benitez, the Reds endured their worst league start in more than 50 years, falling into the relegation zone in October after a dismal home defeat to newly promoted Blackpool. Hodgson’s grim tenure came to an end in January, when he was replaced by Kenny Dalglish, who inspired a revival that took Liverpool back up the table to sixth place. Moreover, the team threw off the shackles and played some sparkling football, including wins over Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City. Although Dalglish’s record in his previous reign on the Mersey was highly impressive, winning three league titles and three FA Cups, some had expressed doubts about the Scot’s credentials, as he had not managed a club for more than a decade and he was initially appointed on a temporary basis. However, the mood at Anfield has clearly taken a massive turn for the better and virtually all of the non-believers have now been converted. Thus, it was no surprise that Dalglish was duly confirmed as permanent manager a couple of weeks ago, when he was given a three-year contract along with his first team coach Steve Clarke. As new owner John W Henry said, “Kenny is a legendary figure, both as a supremely gifted footballer and successful manager.” The new ownership is, of course, the other vital change to occur at Liverpool during this momentous season with New England Sports Ventures (NESV) taking over from the reviled pair of Tom Hicks and George Gillett last October. Well known for its stewardship of the Boston Red Sox, one of the most famous baseball teams, and involvement in NASCAR, the company has now changed its name to the Fenway Sports Group (FSG), but the key executives remain the same. As far as Liverpool are concerned that means John W Henry, the principal owner, and Tom Werner, the chairman, who both hold 50% of the voting rights in the football club. They look like a good fit for Liverpool, as explained by the club’s former chairman Martin Broughton, “New England have a lot of experience in developing, investing in and taking Boston Red Sox - as the closest parallel - from being a club with a wonderful history, a wonderful tradition that had lost the winning way, and bringing it back to being a winner.” In fact, after buying the Red Sox in 2002, NESV delivered success just two years later, as they won the World Series in 2004, ending an 86-year wait for honours, and then repeating the feat in 2007. On the face of it, they could not be more different to their unpopular predecessors, Hicks and Gillett, who saddled Liverpool with a mountain of debt when they bought the club in March 2007. Ever since then, the Reds had been on a financial knife edge. Even though the eternally optimistic former managing director Christian Purslow claimed that he could not “conceive of a situation where Liverpool Football Club could go into administration”, the reality was that the choice had been taken out of his hands. The club’s bank loans were due for repayment in January 2010, but the club failed to make the £250 million payment, and the club only survived when the bank extended the date first to March and then by a further seven months to October to facilitate the sale of the club. Liverpool’s auditors KPMG had gone public with their concern over the level of debt the previous year, when they described the issue as “a material uncertainty which may cast significant doubt on the group’s and parent company’s ability to continue as a going concern.” UEFA were also well aware of Liverpool’s financial difficulties. Last month William Gaillard, Senior Advisor to UEFA President Michel Platini, spoke about them, while warning football dignitaries of the dangers of leveraged buy-outs, “The club has been rescued, thank God, but it was a close call. They suddenly found themselves being owned by two failed banks that had been taken over by governments.” In fact, the Royal Bank of Scotland (or indeed Wachovia) could have put the club into administration (with a nine point penalty) at any time in the last few months of the Hicks and Gillett regime. Importantly, this meant that RBS could dictate terms, allowing them to place Purslow and commercial director Ian Ayre on a reconstituted board, while stipulating that the owners could no longer appoint new representatives to the board. This meant that when the decision to sell the club was taken, Hicks and Gillett no longer had a majority, so could be outvoted by the other board members. Even though he is from Texas, Tom Hicks did not know when to “fold them” and tried to block the sale, describing the transaction as “an epic swindle at the hands of rogue corporate directors.” So RBS brought a legal action before the High Court to obtain a judgment on the ability of the new board to complete the sale to NESV, which they duly won. Even the elegant Broughton could not resist putting the boot in, describing the former owners’ actions as “a flagrant abuse of their undertakings.” Acting on behalf of the club, Barclays Capital had contacted 130 potential investors, but only two bids had been received before the deadline with NESV’s winning out. They paid a total of £300 million for the club: £218 million for the equity, effectively the amount that Hicks and Gillett owed to RBS, and £83 million to assume responsibility for other debts. This was a pretty good outcome for the club, as the acquisition debt was wiped out, leaving NESV with more funds to spend on the football side of the club – and it had the added bonus of serving up a side order of schadenfreude, as Hicks and Gillett lost their £144 million investment. The last accounts published under the old administration reflected the club’s financial shortcomings, as they reported a £20 million loss, which was £6 million worse than the previous year, even though profit on player sales rose dramatically from £4 million to £23 million, mainly due to the sale of Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid. The wage bill climbed an incredible 18% to £113 million, which was much higher than the 4% revenue growth. That said, for the last two years, Liverpool have only made a small loss before interest payments, £2.3 million in 2010 and £3.5 million in 2009, but the impact of interest on the loans that Hicks and Gillett took out to buy the club has been hugely detrimental with net interest payable increasing from £13 million last year to £18 million in 2010. However, that’s not the whole story, as these are only the accounts for The Liverpool Football Club and Athletic Grounds Limited, while the majority of the club’s debt was held in the holding company. Unfortunately, the 2010 accounts for Kop Football (Holdings) Limited, the largest group company incorporated in the UK, have not yet been published, but we do know that the net interest payable at that level in 2009 was a whopping £40 million, leading to a net loss for the group of £55 million. If we make the reasonable assumption that the level of interest in 2010 is the same, this would mean that the club had paid around £125 million of interest during Hicks and Gillett’s unhappy reign. Another interesting point is the large amounts paid out for changes in management, which amounts to £12 million in the last two years, including around £8 million for Rafael Benitez and his coaching staff in 2010 and £3 million compensation for directors’ loss of office in 2009 (reportedly Rick Parry). In fact, Liverpool have only made a profit once in the last five years, specifically 2008, when they registered an £8 million surplus, largely due to £22 million profit on player sales, after a number of experienced players were moved on (Crouch, Sissoko, Carson, Riise and Guthrie). However, the new Premier League deal was also an important contributory factor, leading to a £16 million rise in television revenue. Like all football clubs, the additional riches provided by the ever-increasing TV deals has been a critical factor in Liverpool’s revenue growth, contributing almost half (£29 million) of the £64 million rise in turnover since 2005. However, the fastest growing activity is commercial income, which has risen an impressive 68% in the same period. Match day revenue has also grown from £33 million to £43 million, but remained relatively flat compared to the other revenue streams. On the plus side, Liverpool’s revenue is fairly evenly distributed among the three main revenue streams, which means that they are not unduly reliant on one area. There are a couple of ways to look at Liverpool’s revenue of £185 million. On the one hand, this puts them in a more than respectable ninth place in the Deloitte’s Money League, which ranks clubs in order of revenue, but, on the other hand, they are still a long way behind the clubs at the top of the (money) tree. In particular, the Spanish giants generate considerably more income with Real Madrid and Barcelona earning £359 million and £326 million respectively, approaching twice as much as the Reds. Moreover, bitter rivals Manchester United earn £100 million more than Liverpool every season, which is a considerable competitive advantage. Furthermore, Liverpool dropped a place in the Money League last season and can expect a further decline next year, as they will not have the benefit of Champions League revenue, while Manchester City’s commercial revenue is likely to climb again under their Middle East owners. This would mean that four English clubs will receive more money than Liverpool (United, Arsenal, Chelsea and City), which would be a concern, unless the new owners can address the club’s weaknesses. One obvious issue is the wage bill, which has soared to £114 million, up from £96 million the previous year, mainly due to contract extensions. This has increased the important wages to turnover ratio to 62%, the first time that it has gone above 60% in that period. In fairness, this is still below UEFA’s recommended maximum limit of 70% and is much better than most other clubs in the Premier League, notably big-spending Manchester City (107%) and Chelsea (82%). What is worrying, however, is that performance on the pitch has worsened, while the wage bill has risen, which is the opposite of what usually happens in football, culminating in the team failing to qualify for the lucrative Champions League. That was then, this is now. The recently appointed managing director, Ian Ayre, described the results as “a footnote in our history”, as he suggested that the club was now “moving forward.” It is entirely appropriate that we concentrate on the new owners’ future strategy, not least because John W Henry made his fortune as a futures trader. Actually, I say “fortune”, but everything’s relative. While his estimated worth of £375 million might be enormously impressive to the proverbial man in the street, it’s small change compared to the billions owned by other prominent owners of football clubs, such as Sheikh Mansour, Roman Abramovich, Stan Kroenke and even the Glazers. It’s actually even lower than the likes of Peter Coates at Stoke City and David Sullivan at West Ham. Therefore, Liverpool fans should not expect a classic sugar daddy. Instead they have got a group of savvy businessmen with proven expertise and a superlative record in sports management. Nevertheless, the new owners will still need to access substantial funds in order to strengthen the squad and address the stadium situation (either build a new stadium or redevelop Anfield), so the obvious question is how will this be financed? Liverpool fans would not want to see the club take on large levels of debt once again, so Henry’s team really has to address the club’s faltering business model. Although we are not privy to their strategic plan, we can make some fairly good guesses at where they will try to turn around Liverpool’s finances, based on their announcements to date, which I have attempted to summarise in a 15-point plan. 1. Put your shirt on it While discussing the most recent financial results, Ian Ayre stated, “We have had significant commercial growth since these accounts were published.” He can point to the shirt sponsorship deal with Standard Chartered starting next season, which “can generate up to £81 million” over four years. Although it is understood that some of this may be performance related, this implies £20 million per annum, which is £12.5 million higher than the current deal with Carlsberg. This is in line with Manchester United’s Aon deal, but Barcelona’s £25 million deal with the Qatar Foundation has raised the bar again - even higher than Bayern Munich’s £24 million deal with Deutsche Telekom. Last month it was reported that Liverpool had secured a £25 million kit deal with Warrior Sports, a subsidiary of New Balance, from the 2012/13 season, though this has not been officially confirmed. This is an example of the synergy that FSG can bring to the party, as Warrior recently announced a deal to manufacture kit for the Red Sox. The deal would more than double the amount received from Adidas, who currently pay £12 million a year. Although the press reported this as a record for English football, it is actually slightly lower than Manchester United’s Nike deal, which had a contractual step-up from £23.3 million to £25.4 million this season, but it’s still a mighty impressive increase. In total, the two shirt deals will deliver a substantial revenue increase of around £25 million a season (Standard Chartered £12.5 million, Warrior £13 million). 2. Going global Liverpool’s commercial income of £62 million is already pretty good, being sixth highest in the Money League, though it is only half the amount earned by Bayern Munich and Real Madrid and it actually fell last year if you consider that LiverpoolFC TV Ltd was brought in-house in July 2009. In fact, Liverpool sell more shirts than any other club except Madrid, Barcelona and United. An important element of the club’s strategy is therefore to “leverage the club’s global following to deliver revenue growth”, which Tom Werner emphasised, “We consider Liverpool to have untapped potential globally.” This is clearly one of the key drivers for American investors, as explained by Don Gerber, head of Major League Soccer, “There’s a belief that there’s a valuable global franchise with these clubs.” In particular, Werner has stated that the club is focused on Asia (“The support the club has there is already considerable”), hence the pre-season tour to China and South Korea. However, this has lead to club sponsor Standard Chartered, who make much of their income in Asia, somewhat crassly suggesting that they would like Liverpool to sign players from that region, citing the example of Park Ji-Sung at United. Liverpool fans would have been equally perplexed at the news that basketball star LeBron James had bought a stake in the club, but this is part of his marketing deal with FSG and has helped raise Liverpool’s profile in the States. More worrying is Ian Ayre’s apparent support for the 39th game, a proposal to play an extra round of Premier League matches at neutral venues outside England: “We have a duty to fans around the world to give them access to the product.” I’m not sure that the fans on the Kop would necessarily agree with that sentiment. 3. Nothing succeeds like success While it is true that success on the pitch should lead to financial strength, this is not always the case, which is amply demonstrated by the distribution of Premier League revenue. In Liverpool’s case, their share of the revenue only fell £2.3 million in 2009/10 to £48 million, even though they dropped from second to seventh place. This is because of how the Premier League distribution model works with half of the domestic money and all of the overseas rights being split evenly among the 20 clubs. It’s true that 50% of the domestic rights are still up for grabs, but that does not make a big difference for the leading clubs: (a) 25% is for merit payments with each place in the league worth £800,000; ( 25% is paid in facility fees, based on how often a club is shown live on television, which will always be a lot for a club like Liverpool. However, the key point here is that a club’s revenue will effectively go up by default, simply from its presence in the Premier League, as each new TV deal increases the size of the pot available to distribute. The three-year deal for 2004-2007 was worth £1.45 billion, while 2007-10 rose to £2.5 billion and the latest contract for 2010-13 is worth an incredible £3.4 billion. Figures have not yet been released for 2010/11, but the increase for Liverpool will be at least £7 million. 4. We are the champions The relatively small difference between the leading clubs in terms of Premier League distributions only emphasises the importance to Liverpool of qualifying for the Champions League. Last season the Reds earned £26 million from this competition, even though they were eliminated at the group stage, supplemented by £3 million after parachuting into the Europa League and reaching the semi-finals. That figure does not include extra gate receipts or higher payments from success clauses in commercial deals. Liverpool’s failure to qualify for Europe’s flagship tournament for the last two seasons has cost them dearly. Given that UEFA’s prize money has been increasing on the back of higher TV deals, all in all, it’s probably now worth at least £35 million a season. It is therefore imperative that Liverpool reclaim their traditional place among Europe’s elite. 5. The revolution will be televised While TV rights as a whole have been rising, the really interesting aspect is that overseas fans that have been behind the explosive growth with the revenue doubling each time the rights are re-negotiated: 2001-04 £178 million, 2004-07 £325 million, 2007-10 £625 million and 2010-13 £1.4 billion. As Steve McMahon, the former Liverpool player turned executive at the Singapore-based Profitable Group, said, “It is a global game. The television figures when Liverpool or Manchester United play are 600 or 700 million.” These figures dwarf the Super Bowl, hence the interest of American investors in the Premier League. This is particularly relevant to Liverpool, as FSG have substantial expertise in this sphere, owning 80% of New England Sports Network, a regional cable television network, while Tom Werner is an experienced television producer. Although English football clubs have clearly benefited from television money, they are strictly amateurs compared to their cousins across the water. To give an idea of the size of the prize, the value of the New York Yankees’ official cable network is three times as high as the club itself. Perhaps the most intriguing question is how Premier League clubs react to new technology. To date, digital rights have been treated as little more than an afterthought to the main TV deal, but the emergence of fast, broadband networks might just be the catalyst for clubs to interact directly with fans, when revenue could potentially explode. 6. A fair day’s work for a fair day’s pay On completing due diligence, John W Henry said that Liverpool’s wage bill was one of “a number of unpleasant shocks”. Specifically, he was thought that it was a huge payroll for a squad with little depth. It stands to reason that the £114 million wage bill should be reduced, especially when you consider that it is so much higher than Tottenham’s £67 million. That does not imply a “slash and burn” approach, more a case of the club getting better value for money, as Henry explained, “We have to be more efficient. When we spend a dollar, it has to be wisely. We cannot afford player contracts that do not make long-term sense.” 7. Steady as she goes One obvious way to cut costs would be to stop sacking managers. Including the £7.3 million reportedly paid to Roy Hodgson (after just six months), this adds up to the best part of £20 million in the last three years. Encouragingly, Henry said, “Our goal in Liverpool is to create the kind of stability that the Red Sox enjoy. We are committed to building for the long-term.” That said, Tom Werner did say that he saw “no reason why Roy can’t be our coach this year and in the future” only two months before he was given his P45, though, in fairness, Hodgson was not FSG’s appointment. The new owners will also try to bring continuity by adopting the director of football model, which has not always been successful in England, but has worked very well at clubs like Lyon. 8. The art of the deal One possibility that would help reduce the wage bill is offloading players who are no longer wanted. We can anticipate Liverpool selling the likes of Jovanovic, Poulsen and Aurelio at generous prices in order to get them off the books. There are also quite a few players currently out on loan that are likely to leave, including Aquilani, Konchesky and Degen. Such sales have a triple whammy effect, as they also reduce player amortisation, which is on the high side at Liverpool, and potentially bring in a profit on sale (if the sales price is higher than the remaining value in the accounts). Liverpool will report a very high profit on sale in this year’s accounts, mainly due to the £50 million sale of Fernando Torres to Chelsea, but also Javier Mascherano to Barcelona for £17 million and Ryan Babel to Hoffenheim for £6 million, and next year’s profit could also be on the high side if the new owners clean house. Babel is a good example of how this works in accounting terms. Purchased from Ajax in 2007 on a five-year contract for £11.5 million, you would assume that his £6 million sale in January would have produced a loss. In total, that would be correct, but in this year’s accounts the club will actually show a £2.6 million profit, as the player’s value in the books had been written-down to £3.4 million (£11.5 million cost less 3.5 years amortisation at £2.3 million a year). 9. Can’t buy me love Liverpool have effectively been a selling club during the Hicks and Gillett era with the net spend dramatically slowing down after their arrival. Some have speculated that the new owners will be equally cautious, referring to FSG’s belief in the application of statistical analysis made famous by Moneyball, Michael Lewis’ best seller about the innovative methods adopted by Billy Beane at the Oakland Athletics baseball club. However, there is a bit more to their transfer market strategy, as explained by Larry Lucchino, president and CEO of the Red Sox, who said that they “take some of the quantitative analysis approaches and overlay them with the resource advantages of our market.” In other words, they have used their financial muscle to complement best value purchases by also spending big on the right players. It’s more like the Barcelona method, rather than the Arsenal strategy they have publicly praised. Henry underlined this willingness to splash the cash when necessary by pointing out that the Red Sox had been second in spending over the last decade in major league baseball. A more obvious example occurred in January when Liverpool paid £35 million for Andy Carroll and £23 million for Luis Suarez. Incidentally, Henry has explained that the seemingly exorbitant Carroll fee still fits in with FSG’s principles, as they were happy to pay this, as long as they secured £15 million more when selling Torres. With all the likely ins and outs, my guess is that Liverpool fans and director of football Damien Comolli can expect a very busy summer in the transfer market. 10. Give youth a chance So FSG’s preferred model is one with top quality stars supplemented by home grown youngsters, as outlined by Henry, “We have been successful through spending and through securing and developing young players.” Tom Werner added, “We certainly feel we can do a better job bringing in more players that are home grown”, as he promised to invest in the scouting network. This makes complete sense in the Financial Fair Play era, as youth development costs are excluded from UEFA’s break-even calculation. In addition, any profit on the sale of players that don’t quite make it at Liverpool is useful in balancing the books. In fairness, the academy set up by Rafa Benitez is already prospering with many players involved in first team action this season (Jay Spearing, Martin Kelly, John Flanagan and Jack Robinson). Last month, the progress was endorsed by no fewer than seven Liverpool youngsters being named in England’s Under-19 squad, following the selection of four players in the Under-17 squad. 11. Grounds for hope Although Anfield is a wonderfully atmospheric old ground, its capacity is only 45,400, which is much less than Old Trafford (76,000) and The Emirates (60,400). Liverpool’s match day revenue of £43 million is less than half of Manchester United (£100 million) and Arsenal (£94 million), while even Chelsea, whose Stamford Bridge ground is even smaller (41,800), generate more than them (£67 million). Liverpool only earn around £1.6 million from each home match, which is significantly less than United (£3.6 million) and Arsenal (£3.5 million). The previous owners felt that the only way to increase match day income was to build a new stadium, but they put the plans for Stanley Park on hold, due to the economic crisis. However, FSG are also looking at the option of redeveloping Anfield. The Red Sox chief operating officer Sam Kennedy summed up the situation, “We have the expertise for building new and renovating old, and both options are definitely still on the table.” The ownership built new stadiums in Baltimore and San Diego, but perhaps more pertinently redeveloped Fenway Park, the iconic Red Sox stadium, applying creative techniques such as more seats, concessions, advertising and corporate hospitality, which increased match day income by 50%. Given that the accounts state that nearly £50 million of previously capitalised stadium development costs are “highly likely” to be written-off, the implication is that the preference is for redevelopment at Anfield, not least because Henry admitted that the previous stadium move proposals “just didn’t make any economic sense or they would have been built.” Whichever route is taken, it will still cost a lot of money, e.g. the Fenway Park renovation cost north of £200 million. As the costs are so high, the possibility of ground sharing with Everton cannot be ruled out, but the counter-argument is that any future revenue would also have to be shared. 12. You’ll never walk alone The downside of staying at Anfield is that fans are likely to have to pay more for their tickets. To compensate for the revenue shortfall at the Red Sox, ticket prices have rocketed in Boston. Indeed, season tickets next season have already gone up 6.5%, though 2.5% of that is to cover the VAT increase, with the cheapest tickets on the Kop now costing £725, the most expensive £802. Surprisingly, the entry level tickets are more expensive than any other team in the Premier League except Arsenal, according to a survey by Sporting Intelligence. This is on top of significant price increases last season. 13. What’s in a name? Ian Ayre has confirmed that Liverpool would actively look for a stadium naming rights partner – but only if they move to a new stadium. Not many English clubs have succeeded in securing naming rights, but it is more common in America and could provide up to £10 million a season, maybe more with FSG’s contacts. 14. Never was so much owed by so many to so few Liverpool’s debt had reached shocking levels under the previous unwanted regime. Although there was “only” £123 million net debt in the football club, the full picture was revealed in the holding company where debt had grown to over £400 million, including £280 million owed to the banks, which had surged after the bank applied penalty fees for the loan extension, and £144 million owed to Hicks and Gillett. The really good news is that Henry has confirmed that the change in ownership has removed all the debt except for £37 million for development work on the proposed new stadium, which is part of a £92 million credit facility agreed with RBS. Normal working capital requirements mean that £87 million of this had been used by 31 January this year. This is enormously significant to the club’s finances, as the prohibitively expensive annual interest payments of £40 million have been drastically reduced to just £3 million, which means that Liverpool are “able to invest more in the team rather than servicing debt” according to Ian Ayre. Of course, debt could substantially rise again for future stadium developments, but Henry does not appear overly concerned, “I think fans will understand that stadium debt is different from acquisition debt.” 15. All’s fair in love and war John W Henry has praised UEFA’s forthcoming Financial Fair Play rules that aim to make clubs live within their means, while curbing excessive spending, “UEFA is doing a great thing in making clubs sustainable and that’s good news for us.” In fact, UEFA’s William Gaillard claimed that the main reason why Henry (and indeed Thomas di Benedetto at Roma) had invested in European football was the new regulations, as “they make a much more predictable environment, more similar to what they are used to in American sport.” Although the new owner is concerned that other clubs might seek to find ways around the rules, especially after Chelsea’s massive spending spree in the January transfer window, this will not be the Liverpool way: “We've always spent money we've generated rather than deficit spending and that will be the case in Liverpool. It's up to us to generate enough revenue to be successful over the long term. We will not deviate from that.” So, FSG have plenty to offer in their play book, but some have wondered whether their proficiency in American sports will mean much in England. Turning round the Red Sox is one thing, but Liverpool football club is (quite literally) a different ball game. While Liverpool share many similarities with the Red Sox, such as a glorious history, passionate fanbase, small stadium and, er, they both play in red, there are also quite a few differences in the two sports. In particular, Premier League football clubs do not have a salary cap, have to deal with powerful agents and need to worry about the threat of relegation. That last point may not apply to Liverpool, but at the other end of the table they are concerned with the financial consequences of missing out on the Champions League. It is also fair to say that Boston is a wealthier city than Liverpool, so FSG’s strategy of raising ticket prices may not be appropriate on the Mersey, though you have to think that the new owners are too smart to squeeze the orange too hard. Of course, an owner’s nationality should not be an issue. As Martin Broughton said, “There’s nothing wrong with being American. Ask Sunderland, Ellis Short is a great owner there. Wherever you come from you need the right people. These are the right people.” There might be a nagging concern that they will not bring the same level of commitment to Liverpool as to their American franchise, but if that were the case, it begs the question of why they would get involved in the first place. Fundamentally, they are businessmen, who will have been attracted by Liverpool’s “fire sale” price and enormous potential, but Henry has said that investors in sports franchises are not in it for the money, “I don’t think you go into sport to make a profit.” He has asserted that all the money NESV has made in baseball has been ploughed back into the Red Sox, be it the team or the club’s infrastructure. Ultimately, money can be made from football if and when the value of the club appreciates, but that is likely to mean a long-term investment. Let’s not forget that Liverpool football club is one of football’s great institutions with an incredible history: winning the Champions League and European Cup five times, the English League championship eighteen times and the FA Cup seven times. In business terms, it remains one of the leading sports brands, with the club competing in the most watched domestic league on the planet. Arguably, John W Henry has got himself a bargain here, though there is much to do to strengthen the club’s business model. As the club’s sponsor said, “I don’t think English Premier League clubs know how valuable they are.” If Henry can help instill the winning mentality back into Liverpool, as his group did with the Red Sox, this could be a licence to print money. Of course, the fans are more interested in whether the team does the business on the pitch. Over to you, Kenny. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Q Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Good read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Is it true Brad Friedel has signed for you guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trim Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 nope, rumours we're interested though hope we dnt buy him tbh, gulacsi should be back up keeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HangTheDJ Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 He's on a free and we don't want him anymore. He'll go to the Baggies I reckon, he's a professional and wants first team football. That said he still lives in the North West so maybe Liverpool and a few cup games would suit him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Younger Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 pos tf sick read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Younger Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Interested to see what happens with all the loanees returning, theres alot of players we loaned out, some are good enough imo some definately need to be sold. Trim who do you thinks good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trim Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Interested to see what happens with all the loanees returning, theres alot of players we loaned out, some are good enough imo some definately need to be sold. Trim who do you thinks good enough? Gonna be an essay btw, its just stuff on eache player that would have been posted after anyway so might aswell stick it all in one post. Looking at all the loanees Konchesky - No Pacheco - Yes Darby - No Eccleston - ? Ayala - Yes Amoo - No Aquilani - Yes Degen - No El Zhar - No Insua - Yes Mavinga - ? So Pacheco, Ayala, Aquilani and Insua Dani Pacheco - been class since we signed him, impressed at every level asked of him and did well on loan scoring 2 and getting 2 assists in 6 games. Ayala - Very good defender, commanding in the air (something we need desperately) and reads the game well, good leadership qualities aswell for someone his age and he's good with the ball at his feet. Shouldnt sell him imo, either loan him out to a prem side or bring him back. Was pissed when we sold San Jose, still think he's good enough and always has been, will feel the same if Ayala goes. Aquilani - The one player who divides opinion from our fans every time his name comes up. Only problem i ever had with Aquilani was the injuries and he seems to be past that. During a season when our football was dire and boring at times he stepped up and seemed to force the other players to play pass and move football, our better performances came when he was in the side showing for the the ball all the time then playing short passes to teammates and moving into space EVERY time and showing for the return. His game is pass and move football and thats what Kenny has got us playing. He's played some great football at Juve and they dont want to cough up the asking price they agreed to, bring him back and our midfield will be stronger for it. Insua - Got a hard time here as he was thrown in at the deep end through necessity and had to be first choice LB due to Aurelios constant injury issues and other LB's not being good enough. Started off well but fatigue caught up with him and he simply wasnt ready to be playing so many games so regularly. He's still not ready to be first choice LB imo but he's definately good enough to be a back-up and Aurelios injury problems are still there so he would get game time. The guys still only 22 years old, he gets assists, his link up play is great and he's a threat going forward, despite all the stick he gets he's good defensively aswell, i can still only name one wideman that showed him up and it was N'Zogbia whos given a number of fullbacks problems in the prem over the years. Give him a new deal, he's more than good enough. Question marks over Mavinga and Eccleston as i havent really seen enough of one (Eccleston) to judge properly the most ive seen from him being reserve games and as for Mavinga he's just one of those that i cant decide on. All the games ive seen him play he's impressed pretty much every time, he won the euro U19 competition with the france team that beat pacheco's spain and did well throughout the tournament. Was training with the first team for some time then rafa went, roy came in and he was knocked back down to the reserves and wasnt happy about it, then the loan to Genk came about. He wasnt getting games for Genk for a bit then he broke into the side and did very well for them earning very good reviews, bar one insane kick to an opposition player he did very well while on loan. His main problems while in our reserve team were his lack of height and size but he looks like he's grown a decent amount and bulked up a bit too, he looked good at left back and could do well as a back up left back with a new signing coming in to be first choice. The ones i gave a no i dont rate any of highly enough to come back and make a big impact, theyre either already below better players in the pecking order (Darby), havent shown enough at this stage despite the potential they showed early on (Amoo) or they just arent good enough (El Zhar, Degen, Darby, Konchesky). The one player out of these i was hoping for some real promise from was Amoo but he just doesnt seem to have the decision making to back up all the pace he has for getting past opponents. Sterling and Silva, both younger show better end product already imo. I'd love to see him succeed but he just doesnt seem good enough. Lastly theres Tom Ince (even though he's been back from his loan for a while), basically needs to either sign a new deal or just leave. He's a quality winger but he believes his own hype too much and seems to have this arrogance about him that isnt yet warranted by his performances. One game he can be excellent, taking on his man time after time and picking out a team mate in the box to finish a good move then the next game he's back to his taking on the man waiting for him to come back so he can try to take him on again, get outmuscled then have a go at the ref asif he was fouled when really he was just being greedy and should have released the ball earlier. If he can sign a new deal and get his head down i can see him making the first team squad but contract issue with him and his dad is dragging on and i think he's getting a reality check, younger players have been called up and been sensible about it, remained humble and performed well while he's still playing reserve games, he's free to leave in the summer and yet no-one seems to be enquiring about him, his dads no longer manager at notts which is where im guessing he was planning to return to if he didnt get the contract he wanted, so he's pretty f*cked right now. its annoying because the loan to notts improved him a decent amount and he should have pushed on from there but he didnt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp* Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 More links to Clichy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seydou Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 McCarthy from Wigan, yeah? Good look for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Q Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Ian Ayre is putting in the work, got a 3 year sponsorship deal with Honda. Further expanding into the Asian market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEIRELES. Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LOR1s16rn4&feature=player_embedded#at=28 LMFAO Neville IS the most cuntish footballer I have ever seen. This was such a joy to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 More links to Clichy f*ck DAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Word around the North East (especially @SunderlandSamba) is that Sunderland have accepted a bid of around £13m from Liverpool for Henderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young £ Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 lol ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trim Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Word around the North East (especially @SunderlandSamba) is that Sunderland have accepted a bid of around £13m from Liverpool for Henderson. goiing by rumours we've had bids accepted for about 10 players so assuming this is gas aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 All we have is rumours fam. 10 players like who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojo Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 I'm hearing we're getting Park Chu Young. This guy was the first player I signed on Master League every single time, no complaints from me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Portuguese Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 He looked technical in SA He should be cheap now Monaco have been relegated and also you been linked with a young striker(who I have never heard of) from Monaco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Q Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Link with Honda as well. Rumours galore. / Insua is in the latest argentina squad, really think we should bring him back and give him another chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Younger Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Juan Mata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seydou Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 I'm hearing we're getting Park Chu Young. This guy was the first player I signed on Master League every single time, no complaints from me. :lol: Pos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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