Thun Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Stop and search powers illegal, European court rules Judges in Strasbourg say UK powers under Terrorism Act 2000 violate convention on human rights Matthew Weaver guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 12 January 2010 12.18 GMT The European court of human rights today ruled that Britain's controversial stop and search powers were illegal, in a blow to the government's policy on combating the threat of terrorism. The court ruled that powers under the Terrorism Act 2000 to stop and search people without grounds for suspicion violated article eight of the European convention on human rights. The cased involved Kevin Gillan, 32, a student from Sheffield, and Pennie Quinton, 38 a freelance photojournalist from south London, who were held under the act in 2003. They were stopped and searched while on their way to a demonstration at Europe's biggest arms fair at the ExCel centre in Docklands, east London. Seven judges sitting in the Strasbourg court ruled that the pair's right to respect for a private and family life had been violated. The court awarded them €33,850 (£30,400) in compensation. The judgment overturns a House of Lords ruling in 2006 when five Law Lords unanimously rejected Gillan and Quinton's appeal. It is expected to force the government to amend the legislation to ensure it complies with human rights convention. The judgment challenges section 44 of the Terrorism Act, which allows the home secretary to authorise police to make random searches in certain circumstances. The act removed the previous requirements that the police had to have grounds for suspicion in order to conduct a search. Instead officers only had to show it was "expedient" to do so. The lack of a stricter legal test and the absence of sufficient safeguards meant that this was a breach of the European convention on human rights, the court said, adding that it was "struck" by how widely the powers had been used, with over 100,000 searches conducted. Between 2004 and 2008 the number of such searches increased from 33,177 to 111,278. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/12/stop-and-search-ruled-illegal LOL at having a Euro court tell us that when most of us knew it was an illegal act There police state measures are bait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 c/s but still _________________>>>>>>>>>The Humans Right Act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 ARGH IM GOING TO f*ck*ng EXPLODE. CAN NOONE ON THIS f*ck*ng SITE SPELL THERE, THEIR OR THEY'RE RIGHT. f*ckS SAKE. / I ALSO AGREE WITH THIS ARTICLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thun Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 ARGH IM GOING TO f*ck*ng EXPLODE. CAN NOONE ON THIS f*ck*ng SITE SPELL THERE, THEIR OR THEY'RE RIGHT. f*ckS SAKE. / I ALSO AGREE WITH THIS ARTICLE i tri so hared to speal riht as vip2 is nown four itz brllant gramer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeMason Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 So what does this mean? They cant stop and search without suspicion? that dosnt change sh*t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Don't see the problem. You get stopped and searched, you got nothing to hide then keep it moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Planet Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Gambino, these people were held up to 28 days? I think on grounds of terror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J@M Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 _________________>>>>>>>>>The Humans Right Act Think you're confused here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triple XXX Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 YES cunts n this u aint gt nothin to hide is air id rather not be searchin jus for the sake of being searched its an invasion of my priavcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Gambino, these people were held up to 28 days? I think on grounds of terror Different levels then lol Thought the topic was about people getting a quick stop and search on road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafter Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 theres nothing quick about it tho is there and its humiliating, really humiliating being stopped let alone searched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 U'll live though. It's more humiliating when you kick up a fuss for no reason. My cousin got stopped, didn't have anything on him but he thought he would start acting bad like they couldn't search him so he ended up pinned down on the floor and arrested. Could of saved himself a lot of trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Q Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Thun, you're saying that even though the ECJ ruled against these powers, its just a front? Do you not trust anything that someone in power does? / In other news, the ban on Isamd4uk is bollocks! And no I don't agree with them, but, lol at our government trying to preach freedom of this and that to the middle east but they don't even practice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 _________________>>>>>>>>>The Humans Right Act Think you're confused here. The humans right acts needs to be overhauled, not due to any related to this article but other aspects of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashman Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 The court ruled that powers under the Terrorism Act 2000 to stop and search people without grounds for suspicion violated article eight of the European convention on human rights. There are always grounds. Are the people in Brussels thick? Seriously. Even if a police car wants to pull you over, he must have grounds or suspicion. LOL @ people thinking they are getting stopped and searhed because they are black... no it's not because you are black, it's because you come from a shithole area where knife crime is high and you ain't the only one of the only race getting stopped mate so stop trying to use the card! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NO SUNSHINE Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Don't see the problem. You get stopped and searched, you got nothing to hide then keep it moving. yh but that's not what happens though really is it aint like they go "excuse me sir, could i ahve a minute of your time as we are conducting random stop and searches to help fight knife crime. thank you for your cooperation, enjoy your day" reality is they go "oi. over here." "why?" "cos i f*ck*ng said so. empty your pockets" and if you say anything you're getting nicked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubby Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Wish I'd thought of this and got that 30k tbh. It's all bullshit anyway. f*ck the police and their abuse of the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurious Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 now if they could do summin about extraordinary renditions i could a little bit more of the flying f*cks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum50 Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 They still have the misuse of drugs act and that criminal and justice suttin suttin other one though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triple XXX Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 next thing is that section sutin sutin where they ask if ur playin hip hop or grim en lockin the night off i dnt even hit clubs but thats a violation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thun Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Don't see the problem. You get stopped and searched, you got nothing to hide then keep it moving. You see how certain people have lost the will to speak up and just accept being searched by thugs That old saying 'if you got nothing to hide then why worry' is used and dry Im sure the people in Nazi Germany said the same thing about nothing to hide but then it was too late when they wanted to speak out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashman Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Don't see the problem. You get stopped and searched, you got nothing to hide then keep it moving. You see how certain people have lost the will to speak up and just accept being searched by thugs That old saying 'if you got nothing to hide then why worry' is used and dry Im sure the people in Nazi Germany allowed it but then it was too late when they wanted to speak out Yeah, and I am sure when people can carry whatever they like, this country will soon be like Somalia innit. Great plan Batman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thun Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Don't see the problem. You get stopped and searched, you got nothing to hide then keep it moving. You see how certain people have lost the will to speak up and just accept being searched by thugs That old saying 'if you got nothing to hide then why worry' is used and dry Im sure the people in Nazi Germany allowed it but then it was too late when they wanted to speak out Yeah, and I am sure when people can carry whatever they like, this country will soon be like Somalia innit. Great plan Batman! So you want to live in a society were you get searched by thugs in uniforms as you might be a terrawrist? I would rather live in a free society then live in fear that everyone might have a weapon and needs to be searched Its your fam that will be searched like terrawrists and your saying that cool yeah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Is there a reason you spell terrorist terrawrist, terror terra, and jew joo? It doesn't validate or add any more credibility to your point so why do you do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thun Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 It doesn't validate or add any more credibility to your point so why do you do it? Dont worry yourself about it This is vip2 not the ultimate spelling bee competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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