Football this wkend

[Michel Kane]

LOLPos'd.

[mp*]

POS

[Guest Portuguese]

Its not Wenger does not respect other teams its just the guy is tactically inept.As for Song and Mikel I prefer Song he has more vision and is both footed unlike Mikel he doesn't just pass back or sideways both cannot shot to save their lives.

[TF S4DK]

Lol at Wenger being tactically inept, naive, yes.He clearly thinks we are better than we are, and has adpoted the policy of if we are on our game then we need not worry about the opposition or their strengths as we will simply blow them away. Hence why all he cares about pre-game is us being mentally right and fit.None of Wenger after game comments reflect on our defending, its all about attacking and controlling the ball during the game. There is no talk of defending.

[Guest Portuguese]

Lol at Wenger being tactically inept, naive, yes.He clearly thinks we are better than we are, and has adpoted the policy of if we are on our game then we need not worry about the opposition or their strengths as we will simply blow them away. Hence why all he cares about pre-game is us being mentally right and fit.None of Wenger after game comments reflect on our defending, its all about attacking and controlling the ball during the game. There is no talk of defending.

I thought the two games with Barcelona last season would help Wenger become a tactician.Wenger will never win the champions league until he becomes more versatile you need that as a coach(as well as luck),Wenger doesn't care about the defence or the goalkeepin situation or pressing all over the pitch or change of pattern.Wenger is too stubborn for his own good he could learn alot from Mourinho/Guardiola tactically even Benitez.2005 - Liverpool were getting destroyed and over ran by Milan (Pirlo was dictating the play while Kaka was running riot against Alonso/Gerrard) so at half time he switched to 3-5-2 from 4-4-2 and brought on Hammann.2009- Barcelona. Pep saw how Manchester United destroyed Arsenal in the semi finals and how the midfield three of united took control of the midfield and also how the full backs of united were a threat.So what did Pep do? Barca normally play 4-3-3 but he was afaird the midfield battle would be hard to control so he played four(Xavi Iniesta Messi Busquets) against United's three and played Henry/Eto'o as wingers to stop O'Shea and Evra from attacking which left Vidic/Ferdinand isolated not knowing what to do(either stay in their position or come into midfield)Wenger should take notes its not a bad thing to have variation and flexiability in your play.

[Mr Q]

Being tactically inept and stubborn are two different things. Wenger is the latter.

[Guest Portuguese]

His both if you disagree you must be one of them deluded Arsenal supporters.Just realized you are a Liverpool supporter!

[TF S4DK]

Being tactically inept and stubborn are two different things. Wenger is the latter.

This.

[Guest Portuguese]

Being tactically inept and stubborn are two different things. Wenger is the latter.

This.

Do you know what tactically inept means?

[Guest Portuguese]

His stubborn when it comes to the transfer Market but how can he stubborn when it comes on the pitch? He just doesn't have a plan b which obviously is a tactical thing.

[TF S4DK]

Yes but as we disagree, enlighten us.Infact let me put it another way, do tactically inept managers have the honour roll Wenger has?

[Mr Q]

By saying he is tactically inept, you are saying (I assume) that he doesn't have the ability to change tactics, where as I think he does. That year they went to Champs league final, 2006? Pretty sure he showed then he could switch it up, or I could be wrong. Stubbornness just prevails. But this is the case with most of the top managers, no?

[Lucarelli]

f*ck Liverpool FC's squad, staff, owners and the Premiership.Im going to watch La Liga for the rest of the year.Cheers fellas, see you next year.

:D why have most lolerpool fans i know said thisdrogbas celebration >>>>>>>>

[Guest haze-e]

Tactically inept = Big Sam/Iain Dowie etcLol @ Wenger being so. He is just stubborn for real. Wants to believe his plans can eventually work without a hitch.

[Guest Portuguese]

Real MadridWasn't a particular great match but nice for some of the players to get some more goals and Higuain and Ronaldo were passing to each other which was a welcomed change. Hopefully they will keep this up but otherwise im under no illusions about the game. Deportivo were horrible defensively and I wish they would have given us more of a match because I don't think it was all down to us allthough we played quite well in all departments and I can't really say anything negative about our football. Alonso(I never wanted him for the price he was quoted for but now I am so happy we have him) in particular was great and my MOTM and to a lesser extent Higuain(Finally).Kudos to Laudrup .1 Valencia 162 Villarreal 153 R. Madrid 144 Barcelona 135 Sevilla 116 Getafe 107 Atlético 108 Espanyol 99 Mallorca 810 Málaga 711 Athletic 712 Hércules 713 R. Sociedad 714 Almería 615 Osasuna 516 Sporting 517 Levante 518 Racing 419 Zaragoza 320 Deportivo 3My European Round-up GermanyMainz equal the best start to a championship by making it seven wins in a row due to their win against Hoffenheim 4-2(Holtby starred again)Bayern lost 2-0 to Dortmund thanks to goals from Sahin/Barrios which now leaves Bayern 10 points behind Dortmund and another 13 points behind the surprise league leaders newly promoted Mainz.Bayern Munich(The third defeat for Munich in 7 games.... what a bad start... )hierarchy have made the players come for extra training sessions but the burning question is Do you think Van Gaal will continue? HollandAjax 1 (De Jong) Utrecht 2 (Van Wolfswinkel 2) Van Wolfswinkel is started as goal machine ala Van Nisterlooy e Hunterlaar.PSV winners again as was Twente also AZ ItalyThe Derby of Italia was 0-0 draw(Inter-Juve) the highlight for me was Eto'o run in the second half but the night earlier Inter's city rivals AC beat Parma 1-0 thanks to a wonder strike from Andrea Pirlo(If only someone can show how to up videos on here)Lazio won again to regain top spot from AC as for Roma they lost again to Napoli this time 2-0 goals from Lavezzi and Hamsik(I think no i am sure)Palermo beat Fiorentina in Florence 2-1.Pastore had another excellent game and scored as well Ljajic missed a penaltyFranceLyon won by 3 goals to two thanks to a brace from Briand and another from Licha(Lisandro Lopez)Bordeaux (Ciani scores a great goal)and Auxerre win as wellMarseille draw with early season surprise package St Etienne in the same game sees Gignac score for MarseilleLille won 3-1 thanks to goals from Sow 2 and GervinhoPortugalBenfica 1-0 thanks to Carlos Martin but I would personally thank Braga's erratic goalkeeper Oscar Cardoso injured out for eight weeks Porto and Sporting play tonight respectivley.SpainBarcelona held at home against Mallorca 1-1 Messi makes a goal scoring return but his goal is cancelled out by reported Arsenal target Nsue.(without Xavi last night Barca looked toothless when it came to moving the Mallorca defence around but have to give credit where its due to Mallorca)Like I said before Kudos to Laudrup(he has drawn against his two former teams now the big two Barca/Real)Sinama Pongolle scored twice for Zaragoza on saturday night the same night when Valencia beat Athletic 2-1 to lead La Liga thanks to Vicente Rodriguez do you remember him?(what a player he was but thats for another time)Real Madrid beat Deportivo 6-1(Ronaldo 2 Higuain Di Maria Ozil og(Ze Castro) )Villarreal stay second thanks to the partnership of Rossi/Nilmar who both scored in their 2-0 winSevilla win again as they beat Atletico 3-1 (Sevilla finally sacked Antonio Alvarez with Gregorio Manzano taking over hence the two wins in Europa/Liga. Too bad they didn't have guts to do it in the summer.)Top 10 most efficient players in Europe's best leagues so far10) Edson Cavani Club: SSC NapoliNationality: UruguayanAge: 23Tottenham and Liverpool were among those chasing the Uruguayan in the summer but he opted to stay in Italy, moving from Palermo to Napoli for €16 million. And with five goals so far this season, Diego Maradona's former team are certainly getting their money's worth. Cavani has also scored three in the Europa League, including Thursday's injury-time equaliser against Steaua Bucharest. Cavani is a tall, quick and agile striker with great sense of creativity, high technical ability and excellent shooting skills. 9) Wayne Rooney Club: Manchester UnitedNationality: EnglishAge: 24Although without a goal from open play, Rooney has set up two and scored a penalty in United's 3-0 victories over Newcastle and West Ham at the start of the season. He also popped up with an assist last week at Bolton. And while even he himself would admit he hasn’t been at his best, expect his efficiency to shoot up even higher when he does find his mental and physical fitness and form again. England and Manchester United fans are waiting expectantly.8) Dimitar Berbatov Club: Manchester UnitedNationality: BulgarianAge: 29This man has been the main reason Manchester United are second place ahead of today's Chelsea versus Arsenal match. Berbatov has added mobility and work-rate to his sublime control and finishing skills. He is playing as more of a box player, and it has paid dividends, with the Bulgarian scoring six goals – including a magnificent hat-trick against bitter rivals Liverpool - and setting up one so far this campaign.7) Florent Malouda Club: ChelseaNationality: FrenchAge: 30The Frenchman evidently didn't let the summer's World Cup debacle with France bother him in the slightest. Malouda has continued his blistering form from last season, with six goals so far. The 30-year-old is so important for Chelsea. He is an immensely creative force on the left wing, where he glides past players and whips in dangerous crosses, or behind the strikers, driving beyond the front man. Although they have had a relatively straightforward start to the season, it's doubtful Chelsea would have swept opponents aside with such ease without him.6) Samuel Eto'o Club: Inter MilanNationality: Cameroonian Age: 29Eto'o was one of the only Inter players to express satisfaction with Jose Mourinho's departure. The Cameroonian wanted to play as an out-and-out forward, a role restored to him by new boss Rafa Benitez. And Eto'o is reveling at being back to where he feels he belongs. Despite a missed penalty against Udinese Calcio, the 29-year-old has still scored five league goals and set up one. He also has four Champions League goals to his name, including Wednesday's hat-trick against Werder Bremen. Tottenham beware.5) Milos Krasic Club: Juventus Nationality: Serbian Age: 25Krasic has fit in well since joining the Juventus revolution for €15 million. And with a hat-trick and three assists so far, few were surprised when Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini revealed that he tried to sign him, twice. Comparisons are already being drawn between the Serb and the great Pavel Nedved and he's definitely on the right track to becoming a Juventus legend.4) Nani Club: Manchester United Nationality: Portuguese Age: 23Along with Berbatov, another vastly improved Manchester United player. Few would have believed that Nani would ever reach the heights of his countryman Cristiano Ronaldo, and while he still has a long way to go, Nani appears far more assertive this season. He always loved running with the ball, but his once-suspect decision-making and crossing have become much better. Nani is now a highly creative player for United, when for a while he looked like more of a head-down merchant than anything else. The Portuguese winger has scored two and set up five so far this term. 3) Nilmar Club: Villarreal CFNationality: Brazilian Age: 26Villarreal are a lofty second place in La Liga, and have scored 10 goals - the second highest behind Malaga. And much of their fantastic start is down to the Brazilian. Nilmar has scored four and set up two this season, and has also found the net twice in the UEFA Europa league. Nilmar is a very talented striker with excellent shooting, passing ,dribbling skills and speed. He appears to be well on his way to improving on last season's 12-goal tally. 2) Lewis Holtby Club : FSV Mainz 05Nationality: German/EnglishAge: 20The hype around a possible England call-up appears to have been nothing but hot air, as the German with the English father seems to have his heart set on Germany. But the 20-year-old loaned from FC Schalke 04 to Mainz is proving to be a very special player for the surprise Bundesliga leaders. Holtby is a talented winger who is on the rise. He is a very good dribbler, a great passer and an excellent crosser of the ball. He has scored two goals and set up five this season, helping his side to their perfect start .1) Didier Drogba Club: ChelseaNationality: IvorianAge: 3232 years old, but still banging in the goals at the top level. What you look for in a striker is, above all, consistency, and the Ivory Coast international is a true goal machine – he rarely goes through a barren spell. His five goals and five assists this season have fired Chelsea to the top of the league. Despite approaching the twilight of his career, Drogba was reportedly a transfer target for Real Madrid, with Mourinho apparently begging Florentino Perez to fork out the cash for a reunion with the big man. Drogba is a true winner, and with his efficiency, Perez can surely understand Mourinho's desperation.Top scorers around EuropePremier LeagueDrogba-Chelsea-6Berbatov-Man Utd-6Malouda-Chelsea-6Bent-Sunderland-5Tevez-Man City-5Kalou-Chelsea-4Walcott-Arsenal-4Elmander-Bolton-4Carroll-Newcastle-4BundesligaCisse-Freiburg-7Dzeko-Wolfsburg-5Lakic-Kaiserlautern-4Grafite-Wolfsburg-4Gekas-Frankfurt-4Pogrebnayk-Stuttgart-4Schurrle-Mainz-4Van Nistelrooy-HSV-4Abdellaoue-Hannover-4Hunterlaar-Schalke-4Kagawa-Dortmund-4Serie ACavani-Palermo-5Eto'o-Inter-5Di Vaio-Bologna-4Pellissier-Chievo-4Matri-Cagliari-4Cassano-Sampdoria-3Krasic-Juventus-3La LigaNilmar-Villarreal-4Tamudo-Sociedad-3Forlan-Atletico-3Llorente-Athletic-3Trezeguet-Hercules-3Cristiano Ronaldo I am confused some places it says he has scored two(which is right because his freekick against Sociedad hit Pepe but the Spanish FA gave it Ronaldo which puts him on three).

[Rsonist]

Shut the f*ck up

[TF S4DK]

[Mr Q]

The Holland coach, Bert van Marwijk, has dropped Nigel de Jong from his squad after the Manchester City midfielder was involved in a tackle that left the Newcastle United winger Hatem Ben Arfa with a broken left leg.Van Marwijk said he saw "no alternative" but to remove De Jong from his squad to play Moldova and Sweden in the upcoming Euro 2010 qualifiers.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/oct/04/de-jong-holland-ben-arfaGood.

[Heero Yuy]

Remember when he caved in Alonso's mid section in the WC final and he just felt no way lmao sick guy/lol @ Karl Henrys challenge,come like the Bison slide

[anelka]

I wouldnt say Big Sam is tatically inept, any1 in football knows Samuel knows his stuff..Wenger is not tactically inept, the 05 spoiler FA Cup final (our last trophy) proves he can spoil if he wants toHis main problem is he is naive in terms of not making the team defend better as a unit, ignoring the obvious and also he can not improve a winning team, hence him neva winning the title consecutively...Hes also stubborn but every manager isNow we are not winning we have this title of playing "amazing football", its like he doesnt want to lose this tag, so he plays an open game against Barca last season for example (suicide imo).. yet he forgets our 06 CL run was built on a solid defence and keeping clean sheets

[The King]

Wenger is not tactically inept, the 05 spoiler FA Cup final (our last trophy) proves he can spoil if he wants to

pmsl.We hit the woodwark bout 4 times and you man didnt have a shot til the 70th min.

[What A CUNT.]

Mikel is the worst player in Chelsea first choice 11, he is not better than Alex Song. Nobody will convince me otherwise tbh.

I don't agree with that but thats a pretty easy conclusion to reach when with regards to Chelsea's first choice 11 Mikel is the youngest by a good few years, in a team filled with superstars. Are you suggesting Song would be better than anybody in Chelsea's first 11? He'd struggle to make the Chelsea bench let alone have the 200 appearences for Chelsea that Mikel has. If Mikel doesnt play well then invariably Chelsea doesnt play well, he's an important member of one of the best teams in the world. Smh at thinking Song is better than Mikel hahaha What makes it even funnier is Arsenal fans are crying out for Song to play like Mikel

[The Infamous]

Atleast our position gets rid of the glory huntersOnly positive I can make from this nightmare of 18 months mans suffered

[TF S4DK]

Mikel is the worst player in Chelsea first choice 11, he is not better than Alex Song. Nobody will convince me otherwise tbh.

I don't agree with that but thats a pretty easy conclusion to reach when with regards to Chelsea's first choice 11 Mikel is the youngest by a good few years, in a team filled with superstars. Are you suggesting Song would be better than anybody in Chelsea's first 11? He'd struggle to make the Chelsea bench let alone have the 200 appearences for Chelsea that Mikel has. If Mikel doesnt play well then invariably Chelsea doesnt play well, he's an important member of one of the best teams in the world. Smh at thinking Song is better than Mikel hahaha What makes it even funnier is Arsenal fans are crying out for Song to play like Mikel

Its pretty easy because its true, nothing to do with age, but name the weakest player in your first choice 11 please...Song would be better than your current holding midfielder (Mikel), and more important to your team than your RB and arguably one of your CBs. While you have the likes of McEachran, Sturridge, Kalou, Benanyoun, etc coming off your bench I think your chatting sh*t.Lol at thinking the vip2 Arsenal fans carry much weight.

[anelka]

Mikel is a better DM than Song, he offers much more protection and knows how to play that role, if u watch him his use of his body is brilliant...He is by know means the finished article thoe