Libya.

[Guest28]

Im sure hes got a few million in dollars/euro in a room somewhere. Is there any country who would take him in though?

i think hes got a few ppl who wud take him, at the same time they wud snake him in a second

[Frank.]

Rumours that he might use mustard gas on protesters.

[Mr Q]

Saw someone saying that if UK/America went into Libya it would be worse than Iraq because of the amount of tribal differences.

Stuck between a rock and a hard place.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/28/libya-land-brink-civil-war

Possible scenarios.

Of course Zimbabwe would take him

[JOHN DOE]

IM TELLING YOU

[JOHN DOE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgbt408XvHk

[Badman]

Goon

watching that interview has reinforced my views on the matter

my question to all of you is who would you rather believe

him or cameron

dont even have to know too much just look at whats happening in Israel and say no more

[Thun]

Its building up

[The King]

Not needed.

Not wanted.

NATO can f*ck off.

[Mr Q]

The guy is denying people are demonstrating? LMFAO

We just a video of a little girl who got shot, hasn't got anything to do with Cameron.

[Yuri]

lol @ you lot crying about cameron getting ready for the oil takeover

i don't hear you complaining about having a first-world health service, or paved roads, or any of the other sh*t that you enjoy in britain. cos that's how it got paid for

[JOHN DOE]

gaddafi son on sky news now

[Ulysses]

Goon

watching that interview has reinforced my views on the matter

my question to all of you is who would you rather believe

him or cameron

dont even have to know too much just look at whats happening in Israel and say no more

Why is he a goon? Because he is using planes and helicopters to strafe down his own people?

How illogical and Ignorant can you get? Cameron might be a d*ckhead, but Gaddafi is infinitely more of a d*ckhead: a delusional, megalomaniacal, borderline psychopathic d*ckhead.

What has it got to with Israel?

I think it's unwise for any new 'Coalition of the Winning' to get involved, unless it has been sanctioned by the security council a la the first gulf war. Who knows whether we'll get a bastard considerably worse than Gaddafi just from another clan? Perhaps there will be a prolonged civil war? I tend to have a Burkesian outlook on these things and tend not to be a fan of revolutions. I hope this one does end well, but they normally don't. During the ousting of the Shah of Iran, the ayatollah khomeini promised democratic reforms to the socialists he was allied with LMAO.

Of course the west Is hypocritical, but I don't know why anyone is surprised by this, there has never been and will never be an ethical foreign policy. Just a couple of months ago, my man Saif al-Islam Gaddafi (Mr. We-will fight-to-the-last-bullet) was being feted by so many as a progressive arab voice by the liberal establishment. To Paraphrase the nineteenth century politician Lord Palmerstone: "nations do not have permanent [ideals/ values/ morals] only permanent interests. Britain should disjoin itself from America and only act when it is in our interest to do so. The Special Relationship is one big myth.

The west will always be damned if they do/ damned if they don't. Is the prerequisite of a just intervention, that a country must not have any substantial material wealth? Just a question. Someone should have gone in Rwanda tbh. Zimbabwe as well. Sudan has some natural resources, the f*ckery that was going on in Darfur, probably warranted an intervention. The United Nations was/ is woefully inept in dealing with these crises, many would have welcomed team america world police to take unilateral action in these episodes. But is it their business to? Who is the judge of whether an intervention is just or not? To take a look at situation amorally, of course Western countries always want to intervene when there is instability in oil-producing countries, volatility harms the average man than it does the elite.

[MARVELL]

lol @ you lot crying about cameron getting ready for the oil takeover

i don't hear you complaining about having a first-world health service, or paved roads, or any of the other sh*t that you enjoy in britain. cos that's how it got paid for

My doctor is egyptian still. and actually, the hospitals and first world stuff britain has wasnt paid for by oil

just that Oil is important to maintain that first world economy and they want to use the power they gained through slavery and colonialism

i would rather we had no Oil to buy, than to prop up dictators who enslave their people.

and ulysses, the west isnt damned if they do..they are dammed when their actions have hidden agendas.

Nato wasnt dammed when it went into Kosovo, but its not their place to go to libya unless the UN sanctions it. and the UN is woefully inept BECAUSE of the west

not for any other reason.

[BLACK VICTIM]

G-daf is saying its not his people shooting the place up its outsiders

i believe him

[MARVELL]

G-daf is saying its not his people shooting the place up its outsiders

i believe him

yeah but he's paying the outsiders doing the killings about $1000/day apparently.

im looking for where i can sign up and kill me some sandniggas,

[BLACK VICTIM]

why would he do that

what benefit is it to him (excuse my ignorance)

[Guest Esquilax]

If they don't want help then SNM

We should have done something about Rwanda. Talk about picking the wrong battles

[MARVELL]

why would he do that

what benefit is it to him (excuse my ignorance)

cos all dictators are isolated from reality and will do anything to think they can stay in power.

hes been training them for years, his army has been marginalised and they know about it

swear theyve already caught some of them... from chad, mali, and other north african countries

[MARVELL]

and lol@ all yous saying we shoudlve done this or that

i dont agree with military intervention into ANY country or situation

Unless, its to defend a country who has been invaded like the Iraq/kuwait situation.

internal tribal disputes, genocides etc should not warrant any military action.

all it does is cause more problems, and the same f*ckers rushing to 'intervene' are the ones who sold the weapons to both sides.

so either dont sell, or sell to both of them and let them kill each other, but dont pick and choose what moral hat to wear depending on what way the wind blows

[Guest Esquilax]

So you suggest we just sit back and watch whole peoples being hacked up by machetes? Children n sh*t

We will never progress as a race if we continue to let that sort of thing occur

[Mr Q]

We should have done something about Rwanda. Talk about picking the wrong battles

Admittedly, it is hard for governments to know when to intervene, its always a catch 22.

However, the fact they (major world governments) didn't intervene in Rwanda will forever go down as one of the biggest human failures.

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Anyone saying Gaddifi is G for hiring people to kill his own people is simply lost. Will tell me that Mugabe is the worlds best leader next.

[BLACK VICTIM]

g-daf n mugabe collabo

cheeze

takin out josiah bartlet kinda pussyoles lef right n center

[Guest WAVESURFER]

So you suggest we just sit back and watch whole peoples being hacked up by machetes? Children n sh*t

We will never progress as a race if we continue to let that sort of thing occur

c/s

The problem isn't inherently in the act of intervention.

The problem is the corrupt and self-interested motivations of the powerful, which sometimes prompt these acts.

[kurious]

genuine humanitarian intervention is good in theory

non existent in practice

unless we use kosovo as an example *ahem*

[MARVELL]

So you suggest we just sit back and watch whole peoples being hacked up by machetes? Children n sh*t

We will never progress as a race if we continue to let that sort of thing occur

what do you know about their internal problems? who made anyone a judge.

why dont the US and UK intervene into the killings happening in mexico? theres a million cases of injustice in the UK alone

deal with those first then look for others because theres no more problems at home to deal with. The so called do gooder nations

have already whored themselves out to every tom d*ck and harry so they have no place in taking action how ever moral, when it suits them

when a dictators time is up, its up. Europe fought each other for 1000yrs, someone got tired no?