The Infamous Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 All you nonbelievers dont want to burn in hell fire its not too late to repent ur sins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Esquilax Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Ye but thts got nothing to do with u being stupid. @gayjo Lol I see your trickery Anything inflammatory with no back up Go on, do what we all know you're going to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy.pee.zee Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Wether you believe there is a god or not people that choose to believe there isn't a god are the exact same as those that believe there is.I religious persons faith that there is a afterlife is the same as a non belivevers faith there isn't. The same way a person gains comfort from believing there is a afterlife non believers gain comfort from beliievnf there isn't in essence to have no religion is to have religion.it exactly the same you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy.pee.zee Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 A non 'god' believer. Faith is just as much a story as the religeons they disagree with it all stories you don't no oeither how it all turns out so your views are a sort of religeon with its own belief system 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafter Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 i dont think many atheists are actually comfortable in their 'beliefs' 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Esquilax Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 School didn't teach me sh*t I learnt it all myself, and extensive vocab is one of many hallmarks of intelligence Tell me what ideas I can't grasp and I'll happily refute it Until then SNM and keep posting cuz it's all your mental capacity allows you U.N.L.K @ Smadd that's the exact sort of self righteous attitude that turns people off in droves, you must realise this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ant Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Brisc m8 you're a drug dealing borderline alcoholic please please P.L.E.A.S.E don't stick your oar in cuz it's just LOLable Jas, thank God we have metaphorical healing whilst people are being systematically murdered/ genocided/ mutilated, as long as we have metaphor we should all be good, safe God you c*nt, why don't you do some f*ck*ng work, create the world in 7 days then cotch then kill every one on earth in a flood then give the world to Satan be like "Lol alright I'll BRB" while we all die of diseases and suffer because we are inherently born with original sin that we must repent for and live our lives in servitude to this unimaginably awful deity who wouldn't think twice about slaughtering your whole fam just to prove he's the boss. But I can see you capitilising You so it's a tr0ll ting so SNM, I know what I know, and don't claim to know anything more. so you know there's no God? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 i dont think many atheists are actually comfortable in their 'beliefs' cool empirical evidence you provided there 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Esquilax Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Brisc m8 you're a drug dealing borderline alcoholic please please P.L.E.A.S.E don't stick your oar in cuz it's just LOLable Jas, thank God we have metaphorical healing whilst people are being systematically murdered/ genocided/ mutilated, as long as we have metaphor we should all be good, safe God you c*nt, why don't you do some f*ck*ng work, create the world in 7 days then cotch then kill every one on earth in a flood then give the world to Satan be like "Lol alright I'll BRB" while we all die of diseases and suffer because we are inherently born with original sin that we must repent for and live our lives in servitude to this unimaginably awful deity who wouldn't think twice about slaughtering your whole fam just to prove he's the boss. But I can see you capitilising You so it's a tr0ll ting so SNM, I know what I know, and don't claim to know anything more. so you know there's no God? Nope, I said I know what I know and don't CLAIM to know anything more, unlike some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythy Collins Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Total Depravity (also known as Total Inability and Original Sin) Unconditional Election Limited Atonement (also known as Particular Atonement) Irresistible Grace Perseverance of the Saints (also known as Once Saved Always Saved) These five categories do not comprise Calvinism in totality. They simply represent some of its main points. Total Depravity: Sin has affected all parts of man. The heart, emotions, will, mind, and body are all affected by sin. We are completely sinful. We are not as sinful as we could be, but we are completely affected by sin. The doctrine of Total Depravity is derived from scriptures that reveal human character: Man’s heart is evil (Mark 7:21-23) and sick (Jer. 17:9). Man is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:20). He does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12). He cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14). He is at enmity with God (Eph. 2:15). And, is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3). The Calvinist asks the question, "In light of the scriptures that declare man’s true nature as being utterly lost and incapable, how is it possible for anyone to choose or desire God?" The answer is, "He cannot. Therefore God must predestine." Calvinism also maintains that because of our fallen nature we are born again not by our own will but God’s will (John 1:12-13); God grants that we believe (Phil. 1:29); faith is the work of God (John 6:28-29); God appoints people to believe (Acts 13:48); and God predestines (Eph. 1:1-11; Rom. 8:29; 9:9-23). Unconditional Election: God does not base His election on anything He sees in the individual. He chooses the elect according to the kind intention of His will (Eph. 1:4-8; Rom. 9:11) without any consideration of merit within the individual. Nor does God look into the future to see who would pick Him. Also, as some are elected into salvation, others are not (Rom. 9:15, 21). Limited Atonement: Jesus died only for the elect. Though Jesus’ sacrifice was sufficient for all, it was not efficacious for all. Jesus only bore the sins of the elect. Support for this position is drawn from such scriptures as Matt. 26:28 where Jesus died for ‘many'; John 10:11, 15 which say that Jesus died for the sheep (not the goats, per Matt. 25:32-33); John 17:9 where Jesus in prayer interceded for the ones given Him, not those of the entire world; Acts 20:28 and Eph. 5:25-27 which state that the Church was purchased by Christ, not all people; and Isaiah 53:12 which is a prophecy of Jesus’ crucifixion where he would bore the sins of many (not all). Irresistible Grace: When God calls his elect into salvation, they cannot resist. God offers to all people the gospel message. This is called the external call. But to the elect, God extends an internal call and it cannot be resisted. This call is by the Holy Spirit who works in the hearts and minds of the elect to bring them to repentance and regeneration whereby they willingly and freely come to God. Some of the verses used in support of this teaching are Romans 9:16 where it says that "it is not of him who wills nor of him who runs, but of God who has mercy"; Philippians 2:12-13 where God is said to be the one working salvation in the individual; John 6:28-29 where faith is declared to be the work of God; Acts 13:48 where God appoints people to believe; and John 1:12-13 where being born again is not by man’s will, but by God’s. Perseverance of the Saints: You cannot lose your salvation. Because the Father has elected, the Son has redeemed, and the Holy Spirit has applied salvation, those thus saved are eternally secure. They are eternally secure in Christ. Some of the verses for this position are John 10:27-28 where Jesus said His sheep will never perish; John 6:47 where salvation is described as everlasting life; Romans 8:1 where it is said we have passed out of judgment; 1 Corinthians 10:13 where God promises to never let us be tempted beyond what we can handle; and Phil. 1:6 where God is the one being faithful to perfect us until the day of Jesus’ return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Esquilax Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 na bro u got it drilled into u at school. No it didn't SOZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ant Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Brisc m8 you're a drug dealing borderline alcoholic please please P.L.E.A.S.E don't stick your oar in cuz it's just LOLable Jas, thank God we have metaphorical healing whilst people are being systematically murdered/ genocided/ mutilated, as long as we have metaphor we should all be good, safe God you c*nt, why don't you do some f*ck*ng work, create the world in 7 days then cotch then kill every one on earth in a flood then give the world to Satan be like "Lol alright I'll BRB" while we all die of diseases and suffer because we are inherently born with original sin that we must repent for and live our lives in servitude to this unimaginably awful deity who wouldn't think twice about slaughtering your whole fam just to prove he's the boss. But I can see you capitilising You so it's a tr0ll ting so SNM, I know what I know, and don't claim to know anything more. so you know there's no God? Nope, I said I know what I know and don't CLAIM to know anything more, unlike some so you lack belief in a god? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Brisc m8 you're a drug dealing borderline alcoholic please please P.L.E.A.S.E don't stick your oar in cuz it's just LOLable Jas, thank God we have metaphorical healing whilst people are being systematically murdered/ genocided/ mutilated, as long as we have metaphor we should all be good, safe God you c*nt, why don't you do some f*ck*ng work, create the world in 7 days then cotch then kill every one on earth in a flood then give the world to Satan be like "Lol alright I'll BRB" while we all die of diseases and suffer because we are inherently born with original sin that we must repent for and live our lives in servitude to this unimaginably awful deity who wouldn't think twice about slaughtering your whole fam just to prove he's the boss. But I can see you capitilising You so it's a tr0ll ting so SNM, I know what I know, and don't claim to know anything more. not talking about metaphorical healing I'm saying that god heals the blind, and the the blind could be percieved as non believers in a metaphorical sense but you were clouded by your hate filled bile and were unable to realise this udumb imo UNLK / yuri so what are you saying that you're a virgin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Esquilax Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Lmao what That is the most incredulous thing you've even written SOZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M12 Part 2 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 tbh i agree with Brisco. For someone who is supposed to be quite intelligent, you seem to miss or ignore the main points people are making and then start arguing about the smaller more trivial ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thun Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Yuri and esquilax the devil worshippers you will not win Its always been this way and shall always be this way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Esquilax Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Brisc m8 you're a drug dealing borderline alcoholic please please P.L.E.A.S.E don't stick your oar in cuz it's just LOLable Jas, thank God we have metaphorical healing whilst people are being systematically murdered/ genocided/ mutilated, as long as we have metaphor we should all be good, safe God you c*nt, why don't you do some f*ck*ng work, create the world in 7 days then cotch then kill every one on earth in a flood then give the world to Satan be like "Lol alright I'll BRB" while we all die of diseases and suffer because we are inherently born with original sin that we must repent for and live our lives in servitude to this unimaginably awful deity who wouldn't think twice about slaughtering your whole fam just to prove he's the boss. But I can see you capitilising You so it's a tr0ll ting so SNM, I know what I know, and don't claim to know anything more. so you know there's no God? Nope, I said I know what I know and don't CLAIM to know anything more, unlike some so you lack belief in a god? 'Lack' implies that I'm somehow missing out But yeah I guess so / Still waiting for people to point out what simple concepts/ ideologies I'm not grasping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WAVESURFER Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 the whole point of christianity isnt that you're perfect and that what gets you into heaven. Its that your realise you should try to be perfect and strive towards it but you will never actually reach it. The whole point is the only person who is and ever will be perfect was Jesus. You just have to try and live a good life and be genuinely sorry when you make mistakes and ask for forgiveness etc. I'm genuinely sorry I made the mistake of coming into this topic. Lord forgive me. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 the whole point of christianity isnt that you're perfect and that what gets you into heaven. Its that your realise you should try to be perfect and strive towards it but you will never actually reach it. The whole point is the only person who is and ever will be perfect was Jesus. You just have to try and live a good life and be genuinely sorry when you make mistakes and ask for forgiveness etc. I'm genuinely sorry I made the mistake of coming into this topic. Lord forgive me. :lol: / thun is the thickest guy on this forum no competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Esquilax Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 Thun is tr0lling obv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thun Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 the whole point of christianity isnt that you're perfect and that what gets you into heaven. Its that your realise you should try to be perfect and strive towards it but you will never actually reach it. The whole point is the only person who is and ever will be perfect was Jesus. You just have to try and live a good life and be genuinely sorry when you make mistakes and ask for forgiveness etc. I'm genuinely sorry I made the mistake of coming into this topic. Lord forgive me. :lol: / thun is the thickest guy on this forum no competition Dont be hurt, there still time for your soul to be saved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Supreme Allah Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 lol @ being negged for that burning bush ting u know damn well if Moses (or whoever it was) did that now he'd get sectioned so quick.. bare sh*t i have problems with, how the f*ck did Noah get 2 of each animal into the ark? where was it stationed? how did them deep water weird lookin fishes make it there? them Siberian tigers, random African hyenas, how on earth did they all (just 2 of each aswell) make it there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M12 Part 2 Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 you do realise that one of the biggest things in christianity is that a lot of people say those things you mentioned are designed to be stories with a message. Not everyone believes there was literally a burning bush and two of every type of animal on an ark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavant Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 don't believe in religion have faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Supreme Allah Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 you do realise that one of the biggest things in christianity is that a lot of people say those things you mentioned are designed to be stories with a message. Not everyone believes there was literally a burning bush and two of every type of animal on an ark rah well boy thats... convenient for them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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