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He has been in squads, not long till he is a full international

Anyway, the idea of Bartley is nonsense.. he plays DM for Glasgow Rangers most of the time, he is not ready to be playing at Centre Back for Arsenal FC

You as a Manchester United fan should understand the idea and thinkin behind the youth policy, you introduce the players when they are ready.. the top clubs rarely throw young players into the 1st team mix

My friend, he can hardly do a worse job than Djourou and Kos, give the yute a chance init.

We gave Smalling the chance beside Vidic early.

You brought in any guys like Gervinho instead of giving potential like Jay Simpson the time of day.

Bartley been on loan at Sheffield United and Rangers, gets sent back to Rangers while Cleverly has been on loan at Watford and Wigan and get 1st team starting spot this season.

I wasn't sure if Clevs was ready but Fergie puts his faith in him anyway.

Funny cos Cleverly and Lansbury were at Watford together and now Lansbury is back in the Championship despite playing as well as Clevs during their time there.

Shows Wenger don't have faith in his youth.

Difference between Wenger and Fergie.

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Wenger doesn't have a Vidic or a Rio to be putting young centrebacks in there. There is no leadership in that defence right now and putting in youngsters who WILL make mistakes due to inexperience will only make things worse.

I wont even trust putting Vermaelen with a young centreback even though he is arsenals best defender. Wenger needed to get a defender BETTER than Vermaelen but he didn't.

Putting young defenders in there should never have been an option right now and we will see why with Jenkinson.

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lol WTF?

Toney your on one, Wenger doesn't have faith in youth lol thats ALL he has

before this season Fergie wern't giving any youths a chance ask any of the utd supporters on here, that post is garbage son.

We ain't really had a lot of exciting youth coming through last 6/7 years.

I ain't saying give ANY youth a chance, but good youth defo need a chance.

Wenger said this batch of english lot were the best he's had, then he shotting man and not giving the rest a chance?

I was fuming when we sold Nicky Ajose but Clevs and Welbeck getting a chance this season is more than I could of hoped for.

Wenger don't give no original academy youth a chance.

How many English kids have come through and made a name for themselves while Wenger has been in charge?

but even more annoying, some of the youth he bought like Vela, Bendtner should be further along in their development.

Hernandez has come from nowhere and overtaken Vela, just because he is shown faith and given games.

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lol WTF?

Toney your on one, Wenger doesn't have faith in youth lol thats ALL he has

before this season Fergie wern't giving any youths a chance ask any of the utd supporters on here, that post is garbage son.

We ain't really had a lot of exciting youth coming through last 6/7 years.

I ain't saying give ANY youth a chance, but good youth defo need a chance.

Wenger said this batch of english lot were the best he's had, then he shotting man and not giving the rest a chance?

I was fuming when we sold Nicky Ajose but Clevs and Welbeck getting a chance this season is more than I could of hoped for.

Wenger don't give no original academy youth a chance.

How many English kids have come through and made a name for themselves while Wenger has been in charge?

but even more annoying, some of the youth he bought like Vela, Bendtner should be further along in their development.

Hernandez has come from nowhere and overtaken Vela, just because he is shown faith and given games.

Bartley aint all that, Gavin Hoyte is shit, Jay Simpson is at his level in the championship

Don't waste time on average/poor young players simply because they are young

When you get the odd Wilshere, Ravel Morrison, Cesc that special level of talent thats who you give minutes to.

Lately wenger started giving mins to average english youth cos of the FA and CL rules and it did no good, guys like eastmond and jay simpson aint levels. Wenger was talking about guys like Wilshire Afobe and Aneke and maybe Gibbs and out of those names its only wilshire and chuks aneke really.

TBH i said the same thing in regards to giving Bendtner chances but Fergie tried the same with Macheda

@ murks

Mertesacker can be the guy imo.

funny though he goes 100 games in bundesliga without a booking, within 5 arsenal games mans booked.

Vermsacker can be THAT partnership,

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Wenger doesn't have a Vidic or a Rio to be putting young centrebacks in there. There is no leadership in that defence right now and putting in youngsters who WILL make mistakes due to inexperience will only make things worse.

I wont even trust putting Vermaelen with a young centreback even though he is arsenals best defender. Wenger needed to get a defender BETTER than Vermaelen but he didn't.

Nah real talk but that isn't my fault.

Wenger should have the right balance of experience so he can blood youth.

Why all this talk of Cahill but no bid?

Poor management.

Putting young defenders in there should never have been an option right now and we will see why with Jenkinson.

If you are gonna give Jenkinson a chance and he's come straight from League 1 give Gavin Hoyte a chance, he has come all the way through your setup, captained England youth and your reserves, he has trained with the 1st team.

Noway he can do a worse job, plus dude is faster than Theo Walcott, great attribute.

Liverpool gave faith to a few youth fullbacks last year and they NEVER let you down.

English kids coming through the youth setup will always give you more heart.

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Whoever it was that scouted him needs to be sacked immediately.

You only need to watch this guy for 2 minutes to realise League 2 is his level.

:rofl:

They bring in man like that but got Gavin Hoyte out on loan to Lincoln?

Bring in Koscielny but Kyle Bartley at Rangers

Makes no sense.

Youth policy for nothing.

Gavin is worse than Justin, and thats saying something, that guy is just waiting to be released tbh.

Bartley ain't ready.

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lol Eboue will actually be missed

lulz Sad But True

Guy was our John O'shea, stick him anywhere and does a decent job, doesn't moan about being stuck on the bench, severe lack of tekkers but gives his all when on the pitch..key team utlity man.

And now we have man like Carl who makes Luzhney look like Cafu

i remember my brother saying the exact same thing when you guys sold him, couldnt believe you's let him go and didnt replace him with a proper replacement with Jenkinson being a project for the future, (and correct me if i'm wrong, but Eboue always seemed to be someone who'd be good in the dressing room, somebody everybody got on with, and somebody to raise morale when needed,)

he had no business being on the pitch for the 8-2, surely damaged his confidence a bit, he's a player who definitley isnt at the level required yet, and is going to need time. relying on him in anything other than League cup games and games against the bottoms sides shouldnt of even been an option,

actually feel sorry for him, he's out of his depth,

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in his mould? hes shite mate.

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Ready or not young british lads in his mould are built to go far under the wing of the right boss, bread and butter player like Fletcher give him a job and he will do it, no fancy shit.

almost regardless of who's in charge,

the performance of young and inexperienced players on the pitch is heavily down to the players they have around them,

Darren Fletcher had the likes of Giggs Scholes Keane around him aswell as a pretty decent backline when he was coming through, he had leaders to look to when things were maybe not going very well,

not even sending, but at Arsenal you guys have problems with your supposedly experienced players failing to hold it up when the going gets tough, to expect this from a unexperienced youngster is riddiculous

if we all completly ignore Wengers protestations about how good the spirit is within the camp, lets just think about honestly how shit a atmosphere it must be in that dressing room/training ground, the odds are stacked against someone like Jenkinson excelling or even really impressing right now,

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Selling Eboue made no sense whatsoever, I have no idea what Wenger was thinking.

Wage bill reduction

:!:

He touched Lucas in Miami.

Set in motion from that day, while Wenger was thinking it will free up some money to give to Samir...

I didn't agree with it but I understand it.

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Ready or not young british lads in his mould are built to go far under the wing of the right boss, bread and butter player like Fletcher give him a job and he will do it, no fancy shit.

if we all completly ignore Wengers protestations about how good the spirit is within the camp, lets just think about honestly how shit a atmosphere it must be in that dressing room/training ground, the odds are stacked against someone like Jenkinson excelling or even really impressing right now,

I get the impression that the spirit is good, cos nobody gives a shit. Their all "football bredrins".

I actually think the likes of Jenkinson, Frimpong, Szczesny, Chamberlain, etc will start to improve the atmosphere as they actually care about the club and wasn't around the two cancer sticks have left for too long, but they aren't experienced or as talented as their older peers. Its a shame Wilshere is injured as he would have been a great platform for them to take over the training ground before Wenger spiits them up.

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Gavin is worse than Justin, and thats saying something, that guy is just waiting to be released tbh.

Bartley ain't ready.

Gavin's better, no doubt about it.

Solid defender and quite comfortable on the ball, things Justin aren't.

Gavin would do a better job than Jenkinson.

If Bartley ain't ready then neither is Djourou or Koscielny because they are still playing like wankers.

Any money Bartley would have fitted in by now given the time Kos has been given.

Djourou still making mistakes like he is 14.

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Ready or not young british lads in his mould are built to go far under the wing of the right boss, bread and butter player like Fletcher give him a job and he will do it, no fancy shit.

Real Talk.

Fletcher and O'Shea wouldn't of made it at Arsenal.

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Brah Bartley woulda been injured by now and for a longer period than Kosielny

He is not ready

outside of Ashely Cole ( who was in the first team) I'm yet to see our homegrown youth go on to achieve great things, or even make a great impact in the national team

Upson, Pennant, Bently etc etc

I'd take Sidwell back in the squad though....

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