The Black Tax

[Davicious X]

But we would sell the land lol.

 

You are white right?

 

If there is nothing available to buy then you end up paying over the odds for it.

 

I'd actually suggest that thats what should happen. 

[Thun]

Lets have a white tax, asian tax and so forth

 

Thats the way ahead init 

[TF S4DK]

 

But we would sell the land lol.

 

You are white right?

 

If there is nothing available to buy then you end up paying over the odds for it.

 

I'd actually suggest that thats what should happen. 

 

 

No.

[Fresh]

 

and by what means do they 

 

 

Who would be the direct beneficiaries of the scheme?

Your children

 

and by what means would they inherit the benefit?

 

I'm pretty sure you're just playing devils advocate but I'll play along.

 

You own land so you can build business on said land. If you choose not to build business you still own land so you can rent out that land. Thats continuous funds to expand in the first, but if you do build a business or allow other black people to build businesses on the land what you get is a self sustaining economy.

 

 

Yeah but just for clarity.

 

I like the idea in principle and I understand at this point it's hypothetical but, there are few ambiguous elements to it.

 

So as I understand:

 

Those who match the criteria opt in

Their collective capital goes towards the acquisition, development and maintenance of land 

The collective lets the land/property to those who also fit the criteria

The collective shares the benefit of revenue & positive (or negative) equities

 

 

Yay or nay?

[Fresh]

Lets have a white tax, asian tax and so forth

 

Thats the way ahead init 

 

Asians already do it through certain institutions

[local]

 

But we would sell the land lol.

 

You are white right?

 

If there is nothing available to buy then you end up paying over the odds for it.

 

I'd actually suggest that thats what should happen. 

 

 

what babble is this

 

is this the same stupid old bloke who didnt kno what a loan to value ratio was or some other muggins? i recall he's an old fella anyway

 

could have been a decent discussion if u actually thought about what you're proposing

 

erm....lets buy land ini.....then make business ini

 

is that ur plan?

 

ur implying that land is a inevitable barrier to entry?

 

why do you need to buy land to start up a business?

 

say there's 2 mill blacks in the uk, how many households is that, 500,000? say they all pay up, which they won't, what you goin do with ur 2 n a half mill exactly

 

buy di land

[Fresh]

 

 

But we would sell the land lol.

 

You are white right?

 

If there is nothing available to buy then you end up paying over the odds for it.

 

I'd actually suggest that thats what should happen. 

 

 

what babble is this

 

is this the same stupid old bloke who didnt kno what a loan to value ratio was or some other muggins? i recall he's an old fella anyway

 

could have been a decent discussion if u actually thought about what you're proposing

 

erm....lets buy land ini.....then make business ini

 

is that ur plan?

 

ur implying that land is a inevitable barrier to entry?

 

why do you need to buy land to start up a business?

 

say there's 2 mill blacks in the uk, how many households is that, 500,000? say they all pay up, which they won't, what you goin do with ur 2 n a half mill exactly

 

buy di land

 

 

You're missing the point. The point is self sustaining economy, circulation of benefit within a economy, as opposed to money in money out.

[TF S4DK]

Right but any business person with sense would probably do exactly that, money out...

[Fresh]

Right but any business person with sense would probably do exactly that, money out...

 

elaborate

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Such a regressive thing

 

Segregate yourself into an economy

 

No investment

 

Bad PR

 

Bad strategy, your only going to sell things black people consume, which is going to restrict your market opps

 

Why not make more black community helpers, tutors, get these kids off the streets back in classrooms

 

Funding a weave shop and caribbean takeaway isnt going to benefit your children

 

Growing an underclass of black lawyers, doctors, public service figures, mps, who have networks and can offer your children internships and jobs in 30 years time when they push through the glass ceiling would

 

IMO

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Topic feels like you just read up about Marcus Garvey for the first time

[TF S4DK]

Well say a business was too take the land, pay nothing for the land, make profit on said land, then when the stakeholders are due there get back, they effectively lump some debts on their business.

[Fresh]

Well say a business was too take the land, pay nothing for the land, make profit on said land, then when the stakeholders are due there get back, they effectively lump some debts on their business.

 

That wasn't my understanding. I assumed the collective would be a legal enitity - a business - not a charity, operating for the benefit of its stakeholders - The collective.

 

 

Such a regressive thing

 

Segregate yourself into an economy

 

No investment

 

Bad PR

 

Bad strategy, your only going to sell things black people consume, which is going to restrict your market opps

 

Why not make more black community helpers, tutors, get these kids off the streets back in classrooms

 

Funding a weave shop and caribbean takeaway isnt going to benefit your children

 

Growing an underclass of black lawyers, doctors, public service figures, mps, who have networks and can offer your children internships and jobs in 30 years time when they push through the glass ceiling would

 

IMO

 

Why not do both

[Drift]

Topic feels like you just read up about Marcus Garvey for the first time

lol trus

[TF S4DK]

Are the stakeholders paying the people responsible for watching what The Collective do? Cos if The Collective are employing them, well you already know...

[local]

 

 

You're missing the point. The point is self sustaining economy, circulation of benefit within a economy, as opposed to money in money out.

 

 

i don't understand the necessity of buying property in order to create wealth

 

the 2.5 mill budget could surely be better invested

[Fresh]

Are the stakeholders paying the people responsible for watching what The Collective do? Cos if The Collective are employing them, well you already know...

 

The collective as a business shouldn't show any further goodwill to the 'black business' than is required in any business, it provides a platform nothing more nothing less. If the business finds itself in arrears to the collective then legalities proceed as they would any regular arrangement. The benefit is solely that the business has a landlord comprised of black folk. 

 

Anyway. I'm with Mame Biram Diouf on this one - there are better ways to enhance a community.

[Mizchif]

I'd pay money to separate and integrate people all communities and stop focusing on skin colour or race as a method of defining someone.

 

A universal unified cultural improvement fund appeals more to me

[stacksbranning]

I'd pay money to separate and integrate people all communities and stop focusing on skin colour or race as a method of defining someone.

 

A universal unified cultural improvement fund appeals more to me

. Kumbaya my lord kumbayyyyyaaaaahh

[Davicious X]

 

 

But we would sell the land lol.

 

You are white right?

 

If there is nothing available to buy then you end up paying over the odds for it.

 

I'd actually suggest that thats what should happen. 

 

 

what babble is this

 

is this the same stupid old bloke who didnt kno what a loan to value ratio was or some other muggins? i recall he's an old fella anyway

 

could have been a decent discussion if u actually thought about what you're proposing

 

erm....lets buy land ini.....then make business ini

 

is that ur plan?

 

ur implying that land is a inevitable barrier to entry?

 

why do you need to buy land to start up a business?

 

say there's 2 mill blacks in the uk, how many households is that, 500,000? say they all pay up, which they won't, what you goin do with ur 2 n a half mill exactly

 

buy di land

 

 

Loan to value ratio? That certainly wasn't me, you might think I'm just babbling on and haven't put thought into what Im saying but I promise thats not they case. Thats not to say that I can't be wrong but thought certainly went into it. And beyond that this forum tends not to read long winded stuff so I paraphrased the thought process to the extreme.

 

And if you really think I'm saying buy land to start business then you look really ridiculous.

 

I don't own land but I own a business so why would that be my thought?

 

What I'm implying is that if finance starts with land and space then it makes sense to own that. But you'll probably look for a way to pick through that too.

 

The Chinese fund the Chinese, the Indians fund the Indians. I'm saying black people should fund black people and black people are telling me its a bad idea. Throw up an alternative or sit the fuck down.

[Mizchif]

Until we pool our knowledge together and learn to love and appreciate one another as a group of people collectively working together we aren't going to achieve real success. The kind of things science fiction talks about, or starving children pray for. It's funny to y'all but it makes total sense to me and only aggravates my brain that large groups of people can't see this.

 

Unless this happens, or is forced to happen through some kind of extinction level event, we're going to start going backwards rather than forwards

[Yoshie]

 

I'd pay money to separate and integrate people all communities and stop focusing on skin colour or race as a method of defining someone.

 

A universal unified cultural improvement fund appeals more to me

. Kumbaya my lord kumbayyyyyaaaaahh

 

 

Lol, you are such a c*nt.

[stacksbranning]

i take back what i said before . The idea what be disastrous because sadly some daemon will always come along and fuck things up . What we should start by doing is investing in families . BLACK families none of that mixed race, white family member shit then go from there . Has to be done lowkey as well

[Fresh]

Until we pool our knowledge together and learn to love and appreciate one another as a group of people collectively working together we aren't going to achieve real success. The kind of things science fiction talks about, or starving children pray for. It's funny to y'all but it makes total sense to me and only aggravates my brain that large groups of people can't see this.

 

Unless this happens, or is forced to happen through some kind of extinction level event, we're going to start going backwards rather than forwards

 

There a plenty who share this perspective, dare I say the majority. There is an illusion that they don't exist because they're disseminated throughout society with no common avocation other than church (for a few)

 

i take back what i said before . The idea what be disastrous because sadly some daemon will always come along and fuck things up . What we should start by doing is investing in families . BLACK families none of that mixed race, white family member shit then go from there . Has to be done lowkey as well

 

I agree that wider society would only allow it on an immaterial scale, As for the rest of what you said, you're an idiot.

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[stacksbranning]

How ? Everything i said was spot on . Work on black families then go from there. Black on black on black