TF S4DK Posted December 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Sideways, backwards, shot shy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Coquelin Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 so you've reached the conclusion i arrived at 2 months ago. well done, lad.now all that's left is a written apology (200-300 words should suffice) for the vitriol levelled at me upon dropping the realest of real talks and you shall be pardoned 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted December 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 You fail when you cite Bendtner as his replacement. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaman Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 yeh but Bendtner is like 23, whereas chamakh is 27only 1 of these players can actually improve by an amount which is tangible.And if it was gonna go down like this at least buy an established striker who is class. and im not even a bendtner fan like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Chamakh is better than Bendtner.I was saying buy a striker in he summer, after Eduardo left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Rollins Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I stand by my statement "Lol @ saying Chamakh isn't good".And as a fan of Bendtner myself I will STILL neg anyone who says he should play ahead of Chamakh,That will be all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Wish Wenger would loan Vela to Wigan before they get relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence. Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I will neg anyone who believes B52 should play for Arsenal let alone start ahead of Chamakh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest28 Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 hold on!!! r ppl saying bendtner is sh*t r u lot nuts!! this guy came bk form injury last season, and scored ten goals, i swear if it wasn't for him we may of not qualified for CLwe like really, is vela better than bendtner NO! van persie is my don, but he keep getting injured we r limited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 To be honest neither of them are Arsenal quality. Bendtner has shown much more then Chamakh though, Chamakhs top attribute so far has been his runs forward but when 75% of the time he cuts back or makes the wrong decision than even that attribute is void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaFives Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 The fact that Chamakh can actually control a ball means I rate him higher than Bendnter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Awesome Kong Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 LOL @ some people in this thread who just moans @ any choice Wenger makes just because Wenger made it. SMH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Moaning is after 2/3 years without a trophy and constant stupid decisions.Its 6 years without a trophy now and most Arsenal fans still have a blindfold on so piss off.We argue about Bendtner and Chamakh who should be 3rd choice strikers. Out of Europe's top 8 clubs compare our strike force to theirs. Or compare our defense to theirs. Or our keepers. Or our Denilsons, Songs & Diabys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Rollins Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Strike force? Barca play one up top and two wingers. Villa, Messi, Iniesta/Bojan/Pedro etc.Arsenal play 3 up top too. You're worrying about out vocal point, which should have been RVP had it not been for him ALWAYS being injured. Now Chamakh has weighed in with goals it's him.RVP, Nasri, Arshavin is good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rorschach Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 The fact that Chamakh can actually control a ball means I rate him higher than Bendnter.He also is an actual threat in the air, and his height isn't just a hinderence, which is why I rate him higher than Bentdner.Why niggas hating on the 'mack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Strike force? Barca play one up top and two wingers. Villa, Messi, Iniesta/Bojan/Pedro etc.Arsenal play 3 up top too. You're worrying about out vocal point, which should have been RVP had it not been for him ALWAYS being injured. Now Chamakh has weighed in with goals it's him.RVP, Nasri, Arshavin is good enough.RVP being injured is a formality now I backed him so many years but that's just what he is now, a very very injury prone player so cannot be compared to Villa. Especially considering RVP plays the supporting role linking up the midfield to the attack a lot of the time under Wenger's instruction. Our striking options are Chamakh & Bendtner so they should get compared to the Villas, Drogbas, Zlatans, Eto's, Higuain's etc.I agree with Nasri and Arshavin being good enough but its all good and well building a young, cheap team that plays good football but where it matters you need to spend the cash. Strikers, Center Backs & Goalkeepers can win you a lot of points each season and Wenger hasn't had success in each of these fields be it cause of his faith or his stubbornness. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Rollins Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Strike force? Barca play one up top and two wingers. Villa, Messi, Iniesta/Bojan/Pedro etc.Arsenal play 3 up top too. You're worrying about out vocal point, which should have been RVP had it not been for him ALWAYS being injured. Now Chamakh has weighed in with goals it's him.RVP, Nasri, Arshavin is good enough.RVP being injured is a formality now I backed him so many years but that's just what he is now, a very very injury prone player so cannot be compared to Villa. Especially considering RVP plays the supporting role linking up the midfield to the attack a lot of the time under Wenger's instruction. Our striking options are Chamakh & Bendtner so they should get compared to the Villas, Drogbas, Zlatans, Eto's, Higuain's etc.I agree with Nasri and Arshavin being good enough but its all good and well building a young, cheap team that plays good football but where it matters you need to spend the cash. Strikers, Center Backs & Goalkeepers can win you a lot of points each season and Wenger hasn't had success in each of these fields be it cause of his faith or his stubbornness.Now THAT I can agree with. I actually still believe regardless of their ability Adebayor should have been replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted December 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 LOL @ some people in this thread who just moans @ any choice Wenger makes just because Wenger made it. SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Now THAT I can agree with. I actually still believe regardless of their ability Adebayor should have been replaced.Adebayor definetly should of been replaced. And before him Lehmann, Vieira, Flamini, Gilberto, Henry all should of been replaced but why wasn't they? Both Wenger or the board have to take blame for that. Nasri & Arshavin have come in as the eventual long term replacements for Pires & Ljungberg as Sagna & to an extent Clichy has for Lauren & Cole but like I said the positions that count Wenger has been very slack and due to this we are where we are now with these half hearted, average players. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted December 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Wenger has hardly ever bought like for like replacements. The players usually play with their replacement before they leave as Wenger adds players to the squad and then a year later another player is sold and that players rank rises one.Fabregas played with Vieira, then replaced him.Silvinho played with Winterburn, Cashley played with Silvinho, Clichy played with Cole.Anelka played with Wright, Henry was bought to play with Anelka, van Persie & Adebayor played with Henry, van Persie & Bendtner played with Adebayor.Richard Wright played with Seaman, Lehmann played with Wright, Almunia played with Lehmann, Fabianski with Almunia.Dixon played with Lauren, Lauren played with Eboue, Eboue plays with Sagna.Go could go trhought the whole team/squad doing it.In most cases there was tricky periods when people questioned all of those players that came in and if they had "replaced" those that left... Difference is they won something, and thats the question that hangs over these players, more than sometimes ability. Cos nobody telling me that Hleb and Nasri aren't better than Ljungberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Strike force? Barca play one up top and two wingers. Villa, Messi, Iniesta/Bojan/Pedro etc.Arsenal play 3 up top too. You're worrying about out vocal point, which should have been RVP had it not been for him ALWAYS being injured. Now Chamakh has weighed in with goals it's him.RVP, Nasri, Arshavin is good enough.RVP is not good enough in that role/Turkish talking sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kane Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Strike force? Barca play one up top and two wingers. Villa, Messi, Iniesta/Bojan/Pedro etc.Arsenal play 3 up top too. You're worrying about out vocal point, which should have been RVP had it not been for him ALWAYS being injured. Now Chamakh has weighed in with goals it's him.RVP, Nasri, Arshavin is good enough. RVP is not good enough in that role/Turkish talking senseI hope you mean the focal point for the Barca system & not ours, because they're 2 VERY different kinds of attack.RVP was on fire whilst he was fit playing upfront on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Our system obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 if only adebayor didnt become so gassed after his 30 goal season. needed an experienced head (not henry, hes the one who probably gassed him in the first place) to keep him grounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted December 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 The gassing starts with Wenger tho, part of his managerial skill is to over talk/hype players. Then when they start to produce they sh*t on him and he isn't direct enough to just tell them to sekkle, that use to be Dein's job, they was our good cop/bad cop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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