Think when Learner came in he hoped for what your saying JJbut now with the likes of city and chelseas spending power not to mention united/pool/arsenalhe has had to re jig his business format
Lol t thinking they signed bent for 24 freely. Only did it because he knew from time he'd recoup the money fron young and downing in the summer.And lol at using MON Aa an example. He left because he saw exactly what I'm describing coming and didn't want to be a part of it.
Are you being a stupid f*ck*ng prick?MON left because he spent a sh*t load of money on players and increased Villa's wages to account for something crazy like 70-80% of their outgoings and when Lerner turned around and said he needed to reign it in he threw his toys out of the pram and ducked. It's funny that nothing was made or still is being made of O'Neill's spending by journalists because it was questionable to say the least £8.5 million Reo Coker (released last week)£3.5 million Heskey (he had 6 months left on his contact at the time)£9 million Curtis Davies (sold for £3.5 million)Harewood £4 million (released)Dunne £6 million Cuellar £7.8 million (wants to go back to Rangers, how much do you think they'll recoup?)I suppose if the journos aren't making a song and dance about a manager cos he's a 'good lad' then it goes generally unnoticed when he's pissing money up the wall.
Habib Beye - £1.5m, never used, 42k a week on a 3 year contractNicky Shorey - £4m - asolute tripe - sold for £1.25m. 42k a week.Sidwell - 50k a week and a signing on fee thought to be massive. £5m transfer fee. sold for 250k.etc.
... As in most of the money spent - £50million on Ashley, Jimmy, Downing, Petrov, Friedel etc.At the end of the day he spent £10m on Davies, £4m on Knight.Then the following Summer to finish the defence of he spent £5.5m on Luke Young, £7.8m on Carlos Cuellar and £4m on Shorey.Then the next Summer, when the squad was relatively settled and we'd almost finished fourth, we had money for a big forward - he decided the defence he'd spent £30m+ on for the next 4 years wasn't good enough so spent £8m on Warnock, £6m on Dunne, £1.5m on Beye and £5m on Collins.All of those players were earning well over £2m a year. Almost double that in Dunne's case.He did that before offloading the other lot. He wasn't able to offload them and we were stuck with our wages being Portsmouth levels of revenue.That could have been the money for the forward to give us the extra 5 goals Gabby couldn't to send us into the top 4.
Luka Modric is expected to backtrack on an interview he gave over the weekend in which he intimated he wanted to join Chelsea, by issuing a statement this week in which he will attempt to rebuild the damage done to his relationship with both his club, Tottenham Hotspur, and their chairman, Daniel Levy.After an eventful five days in Modric's career, culminating in an interview published on Saturday in which he said that his ambition lay away from Spurs – and potentially at Chelsea – the player is said to be keen to take the sting out of the situation.Modric is expected to clarify in his statement that he does not have his heart set on a move to Chelsea – just that if Spurs agreed a deal with the club he would be prepared to go. Sources at Tottenham have said that regardless of what Modric said over the weekend, he is not in the frame of mind to go to war with the club to force a move.Related articlesChelsea: potential summer transfer targetsSearch the news archive for more storiesThe Croatia international has always enjoyed a good relationship with Levy, whose last conversation with Modric at the end of the season was said to be positive. The club feel that the player was ill-advised to do the interview and did not realise the impact that his words would have just two days after news had leaked that Spurs had rejected a £22m bid from Chelsea.Spurs are puzzled about the involvement in the Modric saga of the last few days of Kia Joorabchian – advisor to Carlos Tevez and Mark Hughes – especially as they have always enjoyed a good relationship with Modric and his agent, Mario Mamic. They are eager to discover whether Joorabchian has an interest in Modric signing for Chelsea as opposed to any of the other clubs interested in him – such as Manchester United or Manchester City.The unequivocal statement released by Levy on Saturday that Spurs would not sell Modric under any circumstances is a demonstration of the strength of feeling over the saga. Levy does not regard the situation as any thing like the one when Dimitar Berbatov eventually left for Manchester United in 2008. Spurs think the matter is retrievable and that Modric will be happy to stay at the club for another season, at least.Before Modric's interview, Levy was prepared to give the player a new contract above his current £45,000-a-week deal to reflect his contribution last season. However, they now feel that it would send out the wrong signal to reward him so soon after speaking out. Nevertheless, he is likely to get a new deal before the end of the year.Harry Redknapp, the Tottenham manager, said yesterday other big clubs were interested in Modric. The notion he would only wish to stay in London were he to leave Spurs is not thought to be accurate. Redknapp said it was significant that Levy had taken a very strong stance over Modric which would make it hard for him to change his mind. "If Daniel's saying 'No' he really can't be seen to be going back on that now," Redknapp said. "He's made a very strong statement. I wouldn't see Daniel backtracking on that at any price."The events of the last few days have also caused bad feeling between Spurs and Chelsea. Levy accused the club of making their £22m offer public. Chelsea have denied that was the case. Modric has five years left on his contract which puts him in a weak position to attempt to force a deal, especially with Chelsea and City unlikely to bid more than £35m.Redknapp said that Spurs needed to demonstrate to Modric that they had "ambition". He said: "If we can add one or two good players to our squad there's no reason we can't have another great season. So Tottenham could be a great club for him to stay with for the next few years. That's what we're hoping for."
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/modric-changes-tack-after-spurs-stand-firm-over-chelsea-interest-2299988.htmlHarry is such a c*nt He put it all on Levy in his recent interview. He also said it was his decision to turn down Suarez 'cause he couldn't see him playing up front on his own with VDV. The way he was saying is that its all up to Levy to spend money so we can keep Modric. I wouldn't be surprised if Harry told Luka to say these things so he can put a bit of extra cash in his pocket from the transfer funds.Yeah, we need good players Harry, not parker or Adam smh That's not ambition mate.
O'Leary 16th -7.4mO'Neill 11th -14.1mO'Neill 6th -6.25mO'Neill 6th -45.3mO'Neill 6th -18.5m-84.15mAfter he left...Milner 26m (14m profit)Downing 12m (you want 20m so that will be a 8m profit)A. Young 9.6 (reported 16m fee, thats a 6m profit)For all O'Neill supposed bad transfers, he moved Villa forward quickly, yeah there was some bad expenditure but that will happened in moving a club forward quickly and in the reality of the premiership league table payments you would have got, Sky money, and what he left behind, I dont think his financial record is THAT bad.
He bought players and put them on good money then didn't trust them to play hence Villa basically playing the same 11 week in week out.Lerner was right to tell him he had to start recouping some money from transfers.
I really can't be arsed with this argument - but you'll hard pressed to find any Villa fan who still thinks he's the dogs bollocks.He did a good job, would never have sacked him and wanted him to have atleast another season, he gave us our identity back. But with all the will in the world he was never as good as the hype suggested. Awful in the transfer market.As for pointing to his finishing positions. 6th is nothing for this Club. The last twenty years have been amongst our worst in our history and 6th is nothing we've not bettered a few times and equaled many, many times under different managers, with less backing who also delivered cups or top drawer signings.O'Leary will go down as the worst Villa manager in history, certainly of the last 30 years. Yet he finished sixth (went into the last two games of the season with a realistic chance of Champions League, until we lost at home to 9 man Man United). He also bought us Bouma and Laursen./Those figures, I don't even know where you got them. But they aint right lol.
I really can't be arsed with this argument - but you'll hard pressed to find any Villa fan who still thinks he's the dogs bollocks.He did a good job, would never have sacked him and wanted him to have atleast another season, he gave us our identity back. But with all the will in the world he was never as good as the hype suggested. Awful in the transfer market.As for pointing to his finishing positions. 6th is nothing for this Club. The last twenty years have been amongst our worst in our history and 6th is nothing we've not bettered a few times and equaled many, many times under different managers, with less backing who also delivered cups or top drawer signings.O'Leary will go down as the worst Villa manager in history, certainly of the last 30 years. Yet he finished sixth (went into the last two games of the season with a realistic chance of Champions League, until we lost at home to 9 man Man United). He also bought us Bouma and Laursen./Those figures, I don't even know where you got them. But they aint right lol.
Fact of the matter - he inherited Mellberg, Laursen, Bouma and Barry. Those were top 4 quality players.in 4 years he doubled our wage bill (which was £11m a year more than Spurs - London wages with a bigger and higher quality squad).He added some quality. But was wasteful on the defence and unable to find a top quality forward. Something Houllier did in his first window, mid-season.
Villa are one of the biggest clubs in England IMO alongside Liverpool/Manchester United/ForestAfter all they have won the European Cup more than all the London clubs combined
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Think when Learner came in he hoped for what your saying JJbut now with the likes of city and chelseas spending power not to mention united/pool/arsenalhe has had to re jig his business format
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Lol t thinking they signed bent for 24 freely. Only did it because he knew from time he'd recoup the money fron young and downing in the summer.And lol at using MON Aa an example. He left because he saw exactly what I'm describing coming and didn't want to be a part of it.
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Are you being a stupid f*ck*ng prick?MON left because he spent a sh*t load of money on players and increased Villa's wages to account for something crazy like 70-80% of their outgoings and when Lerner turned around and said he needed to reign it in he threw his toys out of the pram and ducked. It's funny that nothing was made or still is being made of O'Neill's spending by journalists because it was questionable to say the least £8.5 million Reo Coker (released last week)£3.5 million Heskey (he had 6 months left on his contact at the time)£9 million Curtis Davies (sold for £3.5 million)Harewood £4 million (released)Dunne £6 million Cuellar £7.8 million (wants to go back to Rangers, how much do you think they'll recoup?)I suppose if the journos aren't making a song and dance about a manager cos he's a 'good lad' then it goes generally unnoticed when he's pissing money up the wall.
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Habib Beye - £1.5m, never used, 42k a week on a 3 year contractNicky Shorey - £4m - asolute tripe - sold for £1.25m. 42k a week.Sidwell - 50k a week and a signing on fee thought to be massive. £5m transfer fee. sold for 250k.etc.
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... As in most of the money spent - £50million on Ashley, Jimmy, Downing, Petrov, Friedel etc.At the end of the day he spent £10m on Davies, £4m on Knight.Then the following Summer to finish the defence of he spent £5.5m on Luke Young, £7.8m on Carlos Cuellar and £4m on Shorey.Then the next Summer, when the squad was relatively settled and we'd almost finished fourth, we had money for a big forward - he decided the defence he'd spent £30m+ on for the next 4 years wasn't good enough so spent £8m on Warnock, £6m on Dunne, £1.5m on Beye and £5m on Collins.All of those players were earning well over £2m a year. Almost double that in Dunne's case.He did that before offloading the other lot. He wasn't able to offload them and we were stuck with our wages being Portsmouth levels of revenue.That could have been the money for the forward to give us the extra 5 goals Gabby couldn't to send us into the top 4.
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O'Leary 16th -7.4mO'Neill 11th -14.1mO'Neill 6th -6.25mO'Neill 6th -45.3mO'Neill 6th -18.5m-84.15mAfter he left...Milner 26m (14m profit)Downing 12m (you want 20m so that will be a 8m profit)A. Young 9.6 (reported 16m fee, thats a 6m profit)For all O'Neill supposed bad transfers, he moved Villa forward quickly, yeah there was some bad expenditure but that will happened in moving a club forward quickly and in the reality of the premiership league table payments you would have got, Sky money, and what he left behind, I dont think his financial record is THAT bad.
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He bought players and put them on good money then didn't trust them to play hence Villa basically playing the same 11 week in week out.Lerner was right to tell him he had to start recouping some money from transfers.
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I really can't be arsed with this argument - but you'll hard pressed to find any Villa fan who still thinks he's the dogs bollocks.He did a good job, would never have sacked him and wanted him to have atleast another season, he gave us our identity back. But with all the will in the world he was never as good as the hype suggested. Awful in the transfer market.As for pointing to his finishing positions. 6th is nothing for this Club. The last twenty years have been amongst our worst in our history and 6th is nothing we've not bettered a few times and equaled many, many times under different managers, with less backing who also delivered cups or top drawer signings.O'Leary will go down as the worst Villa manager in history, certainly of the last 30 years. Yet he finished sixth (went into the last two games of the season with a realistic chance of Champions League, until we lost at home to 9 man Man United). He also bought us Bouma and Laursen./Those figures, I don't even know where you got them. But they aint right lol.
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Fact of the matter - he inherited Mellberg, Laursen, Bouma and Barry. Those were top 4 quality players.in 4 years he doubled our wage bill (which was £11m a year more than Spurs - London wages with a bigger and higher quality squad).He added some quality. But was wasteful on the defence and unable to find a top quality forward. Something Houllier did in his first window, mid-season.
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Villa are one of the biggest clubs in England IMO alongside Liverpool/Manchester United/ForestAfter all they have won the European Cup more than all the London clubs combined
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