FAO Christians

[Esquilax]

Not only was this TL;DR but it seems the crux of your argument is that western civlisation and the powers that be were built on spirituality and religion

Which doesn't mean f*ck all. Surely as a conspiracy theorist you would think that the religious aspects of nation forming are just yet another form of control? Even though the founding fathers of America like Thomas Jefferson were opposed to state and religion being mixed, it is still to this day being practiced.

You're all simplifying scientific theories which are complex for even scientists to understand, and are just fobbing them off as bullshit. Like I said I don't pretend to understand the complexities behind it, but from what I know it seems the more viable conclusion.

whats is TL: DR?

The crux of my argument is not that western civilisation is built on spirituality btw. I am mentioning that to those who seem to think that such things are now beyond the more advanced west and no longer part of our society, i was explaining WHY this is so.

religion and spirituality is actually too complex for most people to understand, far more complex than science. it is the people who simplify spirituality into their trained thoughts of christianity and islam that has been polluted on purpose (which does NOT mean in any way that the belief system is false) that get everything mixed up as black and white by saying stuff like there cant be god because we evolved..and there is a massive universe we're not alone in.

science theories are simple compared to the meaning of our very existence. why did jefferson want to separate Church and state? do you really know why this was his beleif and what he learnt in his beleifs that led him to think this?

i did not fob science theories as bullshit by myself. my question is that there are many top scientists who acknowledge the existence of a higher being because of all what they have seen in their fields of science, some have gone deeper and been involved in perpetuating the decieipt that Govt agencies are tasked with by employing these people to make scientific claims..a well organised set up. why is this??

so why do you who are just ordinary common folk (including me) when it comes to this advanced knowledge of science and religion ..dismiss one side as bullshit and joyfully agree with an atheist/scientits point of view when there is the same organised Deceipt structure involved in science as you claim there is in religion. ??

I just told you bro, I've seen the arguments on both sides and I've picked the one that chimes with my worldview the most

I wasn't born and raised atheist, I actually spent a lot of time in churches and halls growing up listening to what they had to say

The idea of it doesn't do anything for me, there is nothing about it that makes even vague sense to me, and I struggle constantly to understand why anyone would

I would also like you to list these top scientists, not including the man who conducted the genome project, or the vatican's astrologer.

TL;DR means too long; didn't read

[Esquilax]

Can anyone enlighten me as to who "the ancients" were?

the people who built sh*t we cannot build today with all our technology.

the ones who had charted the seasons, the stars, and knew about the magnetic pull of the sun while most europeans were in complete darkness in caves claiming the earth was flat. those ones...

Lmao what the f*ck*ng hell are you on about

What can we not build today?

Do you know why Europeans were so in the dark in more recent history?

Go figure...

[djbmc]

Oh those ancients, the human ones yeh?

[MARVELL]

Can anyone enlighten me as to who "the ancients" were?

the people who built sh*t we cannot build today with all our technology.

the ones who had charted the seasons, the stars, and knew about the magnetic pull of the sun while most europeans were in complete darkness in caves claiming the earth was flat. those ones...

Lmao what the f*ck*ng hell are you on about

What can we not build today?

Do you know why Europeans were so in the dark in more recent history?

Go figure...

when you talk that kind of talk its clear that ur just ignorant, coupled by the fact that you said TL:DR, so i should only bother responding normally to people who actually say something.

u cant read cos ur too stupid to want to read and decipher facts from fiction 100% of the attitude of 99.9% of people on here asking the same stupid questions regurtiated over and over again.

no i dont know why the europeans were in the dark...do tell

[Esquilax]

You've been spouting baseless, speculative garbage, nothing you have said even slightly makes me think twice so I'm not going to waste my time reading reams of maybe-it-is-maybe-it-isn't bullshit

Europeans were in the dark because science was held back by the church, you know this

Medicine would have been far more advanced

[MARVELL]

baseless to you cos you havent read it and propbably dont understand what ur reading.

u know where someone is coming from by the questions they ask.

ahh so the church held back science bcos it was scared that people would be open to understanding spirituality which is the key to our functioning as human beings

so they withheld information, making it illegal to own a copy of the bible, talkless of daring to interprete it, and persecuted everyone all over europe who dared have an opinion about God or anything spiritual, because they wanted the people to ONLY know what THEY told them, and HOW they told them, while at the same time collated all the knowledge they could about spirituality and used it for their own selfish and evil gains.

how does that invalidate christianity, or any other religious form of spirituality??

[Esquilax]

What? The religious echelons of the era were so hallucinated by dogma that they banned any autopsies being performed, so humans didn't even know how their own bodies worked until hundreds of years later... It's nothing to do with spirituality

Why are you trying to romanticise this sh*t? There was no information to withhold because it hadn't even been discovered... And yes, the Bible was reserved only for those who spoke latin, and wasn't translated until very far down the line

The whole history of it f*ck*ng stinks

[JOHN DOE]

what i find most funny/ironic is that the blacks are defending religion/christianity while the whites who brought it to the ancestors of the blacks are disputing it

[Esquilax]

We're always one step ahead.

[Benicio del Toney]

what i find most funny/ironic is that the blacks are defending religion/christianity while the whites who brought it to the ancestors of the blacks are disputing it

lol I'm not white.

[Benicio del Toney]

It renders belief in an intelligent supreme being useless.

no it doesnt, because this being if we are to beleive what we know about him has always been in existence.

How can something always be in existence if you just said nothing cannot create something?

[Supermalt]

this thread>>

*carries on reading*

[Dr Doom]

what i find most funny/ironic is that the blacks are defending religion/christianity while the whites who brought it to the ancestors of the blacks are disputing it

Ethiopia had Christians/Jews before European contact.

[JOHN DOE]

i didnt know that but can u provide some sort of proof

[Esquilax]

what i find most funny/ironic is that the blacks are defending religion/christianity while the whites who brought it to the ancestors of the blacks are disputing it

Ethiopia had Christians/Jews before European contact.

The Roman Empire adopted Christianity before Ethiopia did

[Mr Q]

Religious debates on VIP2 >>>

[MARVELL]

What? The religious echelons of the era were so hallucinated by dogma that they banned any autopsies being performed, so humans didn't even know how their own bodies worked until hundreds of years later... It's nothing to do with spirituality

Why are you trying to romanticise this sh*t? There was no information to withhold because it hadn't even been discovered... And yes, the Bible was reserved only for those who spoke latin, and wasn't translated until very far down the line

The whole history of it f*ck*ng stinks

ur just an idiot. im not defending christianity, im defending spirituality...you cretins have never had any which is why its so hard to comprehend

that is why your ancestors were amazed at the power behind it and using their inherent evil thoughts came up with ways of making sure it was knowledge kept secret and stamped out everything else that tried to question it.

so blame your white people, not Christianity or the fact that humans are created from a higher being for holding back your advances in science. afterall alot of the so called advances in science you want to claim were already given to you by the Moorish muslims, and also in practice in East asia. These people were using both spirituality and science with no problems whatsoever...its when it got to the hands of white people, little boy f*ck*ng, warmongering, apostate liars claiming to be your religious leaders, that they had to find a way of advancing an elite few while seeking out to destroy everyone else so allow chatting sh*t because your inferiority complex cannot fathom how religion and science can be compabible

[djbmc]

that is why your ancestors were amazed at the power behind it and using their inherent evil thoughts came up with ways of making sure it was knowledge kept secret and stamped out everything else that tried to question it.

djdshg

ghsga

ol Jk Rowling over here

[Supermalt]

bit off topic

but how does one draw in church

not even in a badmind way, but i aint been in a while and saw some WINNERS

[Esquilax]

What? The religious echelons of the era were so hallucinated by dogma that they banned any autopsies being performed, so humans didn't even know how their own bodies worked until hundreds of years later... It's nothing to do with spirituality

Why are you trying to romanticise this sh*t? There was no information to withhold because it hadn't even been discovered... And yes, the Bible was reserved only for those who spoke latin, and wasn't translated until very far down the line

The whole history of it f*ck*ng stinks

ur just an idiot. im not defending christianity, im defending spirituality...you cretins have never had any which is why its so hard to comprehend

that is why your ancestors were amazed at the power behind it and using their inherent evil thoughts came up with ways of making sure it was knowledge kept secret and stamped out everything else that tried to question it.

so blame your white people, not Christianity or the fact that humans are created from a higher being for holding back your advances in science. afterall alot of the so called advances in science you want to claim were already given to you by the Moorish muslims, and also in practice in East asia. These people were using both spirituality and science with no problems whatsoever...its when it got to the hands of white people, little boy f*ck*ng, warmongering, apostate liars claiming to be your religious leaders, that they had to find a way of advancing an elite few while seeking out to destroy everyone else so allow chatting sh*t because your inferiority complex cannot fathom how religion and science can be compabible

You're obviously insane brah, and if you're not defending Christianity or religion then I don't know what you're defending tbh. The idea that people can be spiritual? Well no sh*t Sherlock, pull the other one

You have literally said NOTHING that is able to be backed up by ANYTHING apart from you fallaciously claiming that religion and science can easily coexist which is f*ck*ng bullshit

When you can come with some empirical evidence that isn't based on belief and faith and other things that don't exist in the real world then come back and challenge me

You and your bollocks conspiracy theories can take the high road, tired of having to listen to this, it's impossible to argue with points that have no grounding

And if you want to tell me that in the entirety of human history a creator has sat back and watched the human race be decimated by disease and war then you can f*ck right off

[Guest Portuguese]

bit off topic

but how does one draw in church

not even in a badmind way, but i aint been in a while and saw some WINNERS

You shouldn't really but there is two options

A) You ask her when is she free for bible studies

or gas to the pastor that you want a wife and 9/10 times he will hook you up.

[JOHN DOE]

just speak to them after the mass. about bible studies u kno.the average churchgoer dosent partake in bible studies,that false pretence is not needed.

[Fresh]

Why on earth shouldn't you draw in church, why go the bible study route when that isn't your intention.

My advice: Keep it 100 and do as you would elsewhere.

[Supermalt]

yh but its a whole new playing field tbh

i have to be on point

its not like church girls are perfect but more likely better than the club etc

plus theres fam, aunties etc kmt

[Uncle Man]

its not like church girls are perfect but more likely better than the club etc

more likely the club girls at a different time of day if we want to be fair to reality