The Damage of Hip Hop?

[Guest Diddybob]

Martin luther king way ain't rattling at all.

[Thun]

The same shit was said about rock n roll how it polluted the minds

 

Its all depends on the individual how easily your influenced

 

The shit has risen to the surface over the past 10 years were the garbage bubble gum rap is peak and is spreading the wrong message

 

You look back at them 90's rappers who was selling units and they was coming with knowledge, you look at todays peak artists and all they are doing is bragging what they got and you aint

[Agony]

Too Short Says There Was An Industry-Wide Plot To Shut Down Conscious Hip Hop

Exclusive: Short says Jive Records pushed him to be exclusively nasty and that the major labels plotted to keep positive Rap off the radio airwaves. He also explains the Dangerous Crew's disbanding.

During his recent interview with HipHopDX, the purveyor of punany raps, Too Short, addressed allegations that he had encouraged the sexual assault of young girls with his recent “Fatherly Advice” video message to young boys.

But also during that discussion, Short Dog delved deeper into why so many may have come to think that Hip Hop’s original mack is nothing more than a perverse individual, due in part to the content of his songs abruptly shifting into strictly sexually explicit material beginning around the mid-‘90s.

Too Short: In the mid-‘90s when Death Row Records emerged to be like the hottest – no doubt about it on the West Coast – music around at the time, particularly with the Dr. Dre album, [The Chronic], Snoop Dogg’s debut album, [Doggystyle] and Tha Dogg Pound album, [Dogg Food], at that time I’m getting ready to make the album Cocktails and I moved to Atlanta …. I’m moving to Atlanta and things aren’t in my life, things aren’t the same as in Oakland. I’m leaving Oakland during a very, very, very hostile era, where there’s a major drug war going on between a lot of guys that I’ve known for years and years who are killing each other.

I’m rappin’ this pimp image but I’m also – In all of my early albums with Jive [Records], they all had lots of songs that weren’t about sex, that didn’t have curse words in ‘em, and I would pick subjects like crack cocaine, poverty and police harassment and rap about it. When I got to Atlanta in the mid-‘90s, Death Row’s emerging, Bad Boy [Records is] hittin’ and we’re just about to enter the bling bling era. And Hip Hop is in a mood where it’s like I’m rich now, I got money.

And, I’m not gonna blame this on anybody, but I was actually being pushed into a direction where I would talk to people at Jive [Records], I would go talk to the President, Barry Weiss, and he was like – I always wanted to do these [side] projects like the E-40 duet album, which was one they never would let me do. Jive would never let me and E-40 do an album together. They kept making excuses and so it never got done. I also wanted to do an album that was filled with songs like “The Ghetto,” “Life Is…Too Short,” “Money In The Ghetto,” “I Want To Be Free.” I wanted to do a whole album of positive Too Short songs, just to keep that balance. I had made a verbal deal with Barry Weiss, where he was like, “Right now would be the perfect time, you should do like the raunchiest Too Short album ever – the album cover, the songs, just do a dirty fuccin’ Too Short album.” This is the executive running the company advising me to put out an entire album of just cursing and sex.

So I’m like, “If I did that I’d have to then do the exact opposite and follow-up that with an album that’s all positive.” And so, I did the album for him, we did You Nasty. I thought it was a funny idea at first - we had like a PICS star on the cover, I’m naked, the girls are naked and we really did a butt-naked photo shoot. And it got a gold album and all that stuff. But when it came time to do the positive album, it was never a good idea. It never got the green light. Once I did what they wanted, they would never let me do what I wanted.

I started noticing at that time in Hip Hop that the labels were actually signing the artists and promoting the artists who would bring in just the negative messages: let’s have sex, drop ya booty. We getting off into Crunk now, the bling bling is out there … it’s going down. It was a new swag and everybody wanted to brag about – Rap has always been about bragging, but everybody wanted to brag about the millions. And I noticed that at a certain point in Hip Hop the major labels stopped signing and promoting the positive artists, the ones that was just really positive. Positive images were hard to get out there. So I’m just saying that at some point it wasn’t that Hip Hop changed on its own, it had a little push. I’m a real conspiracy theorist, and I just feel like there had to be a gathering of the major labels and somebody had to say like, “Look, we gotta keep this positive sh*t off the airwaves and let this booty-shaking sh*t take over. It’s time.” And after that it’s like the floodgates just opened with sex and violence.

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Now the labels and radio may not be willing to push conscious hip hop but it's up to the fans to change that because at the end of the day it's fair to say that there's at least 1 million concious hip hop fans out there with access to YouTube and ITunes so there's no excuse for conscious rappers not being heard and not going platinum. Cause if that starts happening the labels and radio would have to change the type of music they push just like when the bling bling era emerged. At the end of the day this is the Music BUSINESS and unfortunately everyone from the rappers up to the people in charge have to go with what sells to earn a living until the consumers change their ways.

[Captain Planet]

The same sh*t was said about rock n roll how it polluted the minds

Its all depends on the individual how easily your influenced

The sh*t has risen to the surface over the past 10 years were the garbage bubble gum rap is peak and is spreading the wrong message

You look back at them 90's rappers who was selling units and they was coming with knowledge, you look at todays peak artists and all they are doing is bragging what they got and you aint

Were*

You've been listening to too much ra...

Oh rah

[Pro]

Fighting Weight freed the realness in this thread

[SLEAZE BALL]

World would not be better without rap ffs

They would have just found another way to pollute weak minds

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None of the most heinous individuals I have met were influenced by rap they were infouenced by real life

[JOHN DOE]

are some of you people really saying hip hop in tgerms of the genre of music isnt negative 

 

like ciph said it cannot be argued

 

ffs

 

look at these new kidsas well now chief keef etc just when you thought gangsta rap era was gone

 

its now coming back 

 

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since weed in hiphop became more and more pronuced ive defo seen an increase in the amount of weed smokers - im guilty of this myself

 

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worst thing is hip hop is the genre of music for the youth everywhere 

[Guest Diddybob]

To be fair Chicagos gun crime is nothing compared to what it was in 90's, can't think of any prominent 90's Chicago rappers apart from Common as well(who was mostly positive). Hip Hop definitely contributes, but i'm not sure it has had as big as of an impact as some people are arguing.

[Guest Diddybob]

And places like Brazil, Colombia had their own forms of music, still a lot of crime in them parts.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Mainstream music is far too oversexualised, overly violent, and overly materialistic 

 

Ciph >>>>>

 

Couldn't c/s anymore

[Woodpecker]

The whole world is far too oversexualised, overly violent, and overly materialistic 

[Grafter]

just when you thought gangsta rap era was gone

its now coming back

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since weed in hiphop became more and more pronuced ive defo seen an increase in the amount of weed smokers - im guilty of this myself

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Sad yout, really sad

[Guest Chelsea Jack]

just when you thought gangsta rap era was gone

its now coming back

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since weed in hiphop became more and more pronuced ive defo seen an increase in the amount of weed smokers - im guilty of this myself

/

 

Sad yout, really sad

 

c/s

 

same guy that used to label all stoners bummy as well

 

what a c*nt

[JOHN DOE]

its a bummy drug 

 

it makes u lazy 

 

then few times ive done it i acheived nothing but eat and sleep

[Agony]

its a bummy drug

it makes u lazy

then few times ive done it i acheived nothing but eat and sleep

Lol @ making sweeping statements about weed based on just the effects of indica strains

[JOHN DOE]

I see.

[Yuri]

None of the most heinous individuals I have met were influenced by rap