Benicio del Toney Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 You can see why they compared R9 to a young Pele. I'm talking man that seen it all like Zagallo. Pele reinvented himself later though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN DOE Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 'd*ckhead' i like you porch lets not go down that avenue reading and asking elders = secondary research and variable seeing them in the flesh = primary research and invariable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 but tbh how can you guys that never had the opportunity to watch these fooballers week in week out have an accurate opinion on their skills Most football fans even today don't see players week in week out cept for highlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 and even seeing it for yourself peoples opinions still vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 I hope you don't like Music/Women who were around before you was born Like I said what a d*ck head logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 lol @ the defending in the pele vid ! This is one of the biggest issue I have with rating players from that era 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 micky mouse league loooool if you watched that show best of brazil on itv4 you'd quickly backtrack, most ridiculous football highlights i've ever seen, them man didn't know what a tap in is plus brazilians only started to play abroad from the late 80's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 did you see swedens defending last night mate? @darkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 The defenders of this era are average Thiago Silva is the standout CB He won't make the top 20 of all time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 did you see swedens defending last night mate? @darkman Truss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 did you see swedens defending last night mate? @darkman My bad. Last nights game is representative of defending in the modern era as a whole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 but tbh how can you guys that never had the opportunity to watch these fooballers week in week out have an accurate opinion on their skills Most football fans even today don't see players week in week out cept for highlights. The realness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agony Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 but tbh how can you guys that never had the opportunity to watch these fooballers week in week out have an accurate opinion on their skills Most football fans even today don't see players week in week out cept for highlights. The realness Truss This is why world class debates are usually hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 but tbh how can you guys that never had the opportunity to watch these fooballers week in week out have an accurate opinion on their skills Most football fans even today don't see players week in week out cept for highlights. The realness Not true at all. You could maybe be make an argument for only seeing highlights of players in other leagues but with european comptetions/leagues widely broadcast this is rarely the case. Especially for the cream of the crop No true football fan just watches highlights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 FACK Ronaldo is a STRONG favourite for this Has a man ever won this without winning a trophy??? Ribery 2/1 and messi 8/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Yes of course they have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Nedved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 The thing if Ballon D'or was a prize which was handed from August until now then there will be one clear winner but its not Its a year thing why do people do this If Cristiano wins this is 2001 all over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 but tbh how can you guys that never had the opportunity to watch these fooballers week in week out have an accurate opinion on their skills Most football fans even today don't see players week in week out cept for highlights. The realness Not true at all. You could maybe be make an argument for only seeing highlights of players in other leagues but with european comptetions/leagues widely broadcast this is rarely the case. Especially for the cream of the crop No true football fan just watches highlights This is the thing, this is a relatively new phenomenon, widely televised football. So all the greatest lists before the 90's held no weight in your opinion? Alex Ferguson saying he regarded Pele as the best growing up has no weight according to you then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Like I said A man really thinks players in this era are better than Pele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 No they hold weight but point I'm making it gives us more exposure to players Like I said A man really thinks players in this era are better than Pele I have not said this once 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN DOE Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 I hope you don't like Music/Women who were around before you was born Like I said what a d*ck head logic thats a very poor comparison music catalogues can easily be accessed and listened to same with women there is no way you have seen enough football matches from 40+ years to give an well informed judgement on who is better than who 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 I hope you don't like Music/Women who were around before you was born Like I said what a d*ck head logic thats a very poor comparison music catalogues can easily be accessed and listened to same with women there is no way you have seen enough football matches from 40+ years to give an well informed judgement on who is better than who ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 We get more exposure but the purist who is shouting from the crowd every Saturday will say you learn more about a player live than watching on tv. So where does it end? Is nobody's opinion valid except live match goers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 there is no way you have seen enough football matches from 40+ years to give an well informed judgement on who is better than who Like I said Alex Ferguson would have been privy to the same footage of Pele as us, is his opinion not valid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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