Ballon d'Or 2013

[O Fenomeno]

I hope you don't like Music/Women who were around before you was born

Like I said what a d*ck head logic

thats a very poor comparison

music catalogues can easily be accessed and listened to

same with women

there is no way you have seen enough football matches from 40+ years to give an well informed judgement on who is better than who

!

Like I said when it comes to Football

You study achievements and read about it

Ask around

You don't need access to know Pele along with Maradona are The GOATs of this sport we all love

If you trying to make sway in favour of guys i see week in and week out terrorising defences in club level but don't turn up when it comes to the pinnacle it's not gonna happen

[O Fenomeno]

I bet when Henry was king in PL back in 2002-06

He had GOAT status

He will be remembered as a French legend(record scorer) and an Arsenal great

Nothing else

It's like Messi currently is only a Barcelona great because he has done nada outside club level

[Thizz]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2510443/JAMIE-REDKNAPP-Cristiano-Ronaldo-finally-knocked-Lionel-Messi-summit.html

[Yeshua]

There's actually footage out there of Pele, say around 30-40 games. There was one site that used to have a database of football matches dating as far back as the late 60's can't remember its name though.

[Sho'Case]

http://www.4dfoot.com/

 

Can download a lot of classic footage from there.

[O Fenomeno]

+1

[Seydou]

Pele says Zinedine Zidane was a better player than Lionel Messi when he was at his peak but revealed he would vote for the Barcelona star ahead of Cristiano Ronaldo to win the Ballon d'Or.

Zidane lifted the World Cup and European Championship with France during his playing days as well as the Champions League and then the Ballon d'Or with Real Madrid.

Messi has been widely-heralded as arguably the greatest player of all-time having won the Ballon d'Or a record four times, but Brazil legend Pele does not share that same point of view.

He told reporters: "Individually, I think Zidane was better than Messi. Zidane was amazing and the team-mates he played with were not the same standard as Messi’s; he plays with Xavi and Iniesta at Barcelona."

The Argentina international is again expected to be among the frontrunners to lift the game's most prestigious individual prize, with Cristiano Ronaldo and Franck Ribery his closest rivals for the crown.

And Pele admitted he would vote for Messi ahead of the aforementioned duo, while fellow Selecao legend Rivelino rubbished comparisons between the forward and Albiceleste great Diego Maradona.

"I would vote for Messi because of his technique," Pele added.

Rivelino stated: "In my opinion, Neymar is technically better than Messi. There’s no way you can compare Messi to Maradona. He fitted perfectly into a team where everything worked. This year another player will win."

http://www.goal.com/en/news/584/brazil/2013/11/21/4423688/pele-zidane-was-better-than-messi?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Heero Yuy]

Pele hates having an argentinian as the best player in the world.

Probably can't even sleep at night.

[Nidge Weasle]

Cant believe zidane being better than messi is even up for discussion

[Yeshua]

Cant believe zidane being better than messi is even up for discussion

 

?

[Benicio del Toney]

The team mate point is valid, Messi is surrounded by the best, so much so that they don't even need him when they dominate internationals for Spain.

[Michel Kane]

The team mate point is valid, Messi is surrounded by the best, so much so that they don't even need him when they dominate internationals for Spain.

Oh, but when you're talking about 3-time World Cup winning Pele, you go on like he was spearheading the Faroe Islands to them trophies & not teams regarded as some of the best ever.

[Benicio del Toney]

But no.1 we are talking about a proven winner, not some dude who at 27 will be still trying to convince on the World stage.

 

no.2

 

If you look at the greats of the Santos team he played for, people like Pepe, Coutinho, they never established themselves in the Brazil national teams.

 

So in that World dominating Santos side of the 60's Pele was the anomaly.

 

 

1970 apart from being a huge 12 years after he craqued in 58 was a totally new generation.

 

Pele was the only player from 58 and 62 to make the squad of 1970.

 

 

Different players, different eras, same result.

 

The King.

[Davicious X]

Thats just 2 and a half seasons for CR7 tbh lol

[The Somalian]

swear messi has been practicality injured since april  

[Posted December 4, 2013]

was 8/1 last week  

[Jam]

swear messi has been practicality injured since april

Which is more testament to everything...

[The Infamous]

Ribery

Ronaldo

Zlatan

Bastian Schwein

Best players 2013. Especially them 3 ZI,Rib,Ron

[Adotbiz]

Low refused to vote so he doesn't cause unrest among the German camp ahead of World Cup..

[O Fenomeno]

http://www.teamtalk.com/news/7555/9065499/Cristiano-Ronaldo-Lionel-Messi-and-Franck-Ribery-on-Ballon-d-Or-shortlist