People say 'forum progress' in this room but everyday you still have to break down the basics of football for some people. We've still got a long way to go.
It was painful watching him chase shadows against Pirlo two summers ago
He had cramp after 60 mins FFS
Yeah his legs have gone, not like Pirlo isn't immune to chasing around though, theres a reason why Milan got rid, at the time he was being bossed by lesser players with lots of energy, until Juve clocked that you had to provide him with legs because he is such a creative force.,
This is what England should do with Gerrard, even though he is a lesser player than Pirlo, relative to their team and the league, there are no English cms as creative(and this is a fact). Play him with Carrick Wilshere and Lallana surrounding him and he will do well, he is still a good player, and Carrick who gets so much ratings on here has been far worse this season.
So you consider Gerrard more creative than Özil, Cazorla & Mata yeah?
Outside of set-piece delivery, Gerrard isn't more creative than Ramsey.
Well he is, thats why he has the 2nd most key passes in the league. More than Ozil, Mata, Carzola despite playing deeper.
It was the same last season as well, he is the most creative cm in the league statistically and he has been since last season.
So you consider him more creative than those aforementioned yeah? Lol.
Ozil at Madrid lead the key passes and assists table for two seasons. He isn't more creative than Ozil or Mata, and to be fair to these guys, they're all in the top 5, they've only made 3 or 4 less key passes than Gerrard, and they will probably overtake him soon. Ramsey though he is, and any other Centre mid in the league for that matter.
Stats can be used to back up your argument, though it isn't the be all end all. You lot obviously don't watch Liverpool enough to make rational conclusions so i have to draw for them,.
He can only play at one pace and hasn't got the legs anymore to go gung ho for ninety minutes
He can dictate games to a degree, against the big teams who have loads of technically gifted diminutive Cms like Arsenal maybe not, against the other 17 teams in the league he can, and he has.
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Carricks a sitting midfielder
Gerrard is chase after the ball don't track backer
2 different positions
I swear I said this in like 06
You can only play 1 of gerrard/j.cole/lamps/rooney
Can't be building houses with 4 decorators
Players have changed but england still trying fit a bunch of painters into the side without having anyone to lay the foundations
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People say 'forum progress' in this room but everyday you still have to break down the basics of football for some people. We've still got a long way to go.
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Yeshua
Apart from him i should have said.
Although he still beats Ramsey in terms of creativity.
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Yeshua
What you mean?
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Michel Kane
Lol, how are these posts getting negged?
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Michel Kane
Eh? Lol.
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Yeshua
Don;t get it mate, if you want me to back up what i'm saying i can...
And before you start miscontruing my arguments, of course Ramsey is a better player than Gerrard right now.
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Outside of set-piece delivery, Gerrard isn't more creative than Ramsey.
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O Fenomeno
My cousin just said Gerrard's set piece delivery is WC
I said Gerrard is basically Beckham 2.0
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Well he is, thats why he has the 2nd most key passes in the league. More than Ozil, Mata, Carzola despite playing deeper.
It was the same last season as well, he is the most creative cm in the league statistically and he has been since last season.
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Yeshua
And i said you really don't know what you're talking about.
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His legs have gone
It was painful watching him chase shadows against Pirlo two summers ago
He had cramp after 60 mins FFS
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So you consider Gerrard more creative than Özil, Cazorla & Mata yeah?
So you consider him more creative than those aforementioned yeah? Lol.
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Yeah his legs have gone, not like Pirlo isn't immune to chasing around though, theres a reason why Milan got rid, at the time he was being bossed by lesser players with lots of energy, until Juve clocked that you had to provide him with legs because he is such a creative force.,
This is what England should do with Gerrard, even though he is a lesser player than Pirlo, relative to their team and the league, there are no English cms as creative(and this is a fact). Play him with Carrick Wilshere and Lallana surrounding him and he will do well, he is still a good player, and Carrick who gets so much ratings on here has been far worse this season.
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Gerrard can't dictate a game so it's useless
He can only play at one pace and hasn't got the legs anymore to go gung ho for ninety minutes
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Ozil at Madrid lead the key passes and assists table for two seasons. He isn't more creative than Ozil or Mata, and to be fair to these guys, they're all in the top 5, they've only made 3 or 4 less key passes than Gerrard, and they will probably overtake him soon. Ramsey though he is, and any other Centre mid in the league for that matter.
Stats can be used to back up your argument, though it isn't the be all end all. You lot obviously don't watch Liverpool enough to make rational conclusions so i have to draw for them,.
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his contract expired, he didn't renew and they had to let him go, which they regretted
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He can dictate games to a degree, against the big teams who have loads of technically gifted diminutive Cms like Arsenal maybe not, against the other 17 teams in the league he can, and he has.
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They didn't regret it to they saw him at juve, they thought his legs were completely shot.
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Post July 2011
How many titles have
Milan and Juve have each?
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