Stop and search...

[Guest Batman]

The police will search you because they have to been seen to be dogn something to fix the current problem, the police themselves are not the problem, just a tool in the hands of the REAL criminals..

But they can fix the problem by not acting like animals and stopping people by the way they look.Its like the soldiers in Nazi Germany that were told to exterminate people. They tried using the excuse that they were orders but they have a human brain and the capability to stop there own actions.

Nah lol it aint nothin like the Nuremburg defenseWhatever you may beleive there is a lot of black on black crime happening, and a lot more than usual is shown by the mediaThe average person will not think outside the spectre of, it is in the news, so it is realThe police are right to search shifty looking black guys since a lot of violent acts are being perpatrated by the type of people they search (not just black, because certain people would not get searched.)Been searched bare myself, and it was always with good cause cuz its when im hooded up and looking VERY dodgeThing is, about 60 % of the people I know went shank or sticked up to Carnival, and they look no different to me...or most other people I know that get searched.It is only common sense.

[Afroman]

got stopped last year at my station last week. First since the last 5 years..Some Plastic officer telling me about Terrorism act section blah blah blah..I told him to hurry up! and man was gettin vexed...officer - WHATS IN YOUR BAG?me- check it, Its in your hands now..Officer - I WANT YOU TO TELL ME..lol Them dudes are a joke.but iant even worth stressin over them. The only searched my bag and my driving licenese wa sin my bag, so they checked that as well...f*ck em.

[Vtec]

Due to my trouble making looking face, as soon as I came out of Westbourne Park station I was stopped by police and given a search. This included them putting their hands in my pockets and opening up my wallet etc.I really couldnt have care less. It was taking up an extra 1 minute of my time and I knew they werent gonna find anything on me. if I was a police officer in West London I'd be stopping black yutes all the time. If I was a police officer in toxteth I'd be stopping little white yutes all the time. HOWEVERIf I was stopped on a weekly/daily basis I might change my opinion - but at the moment I'm stopped rarely so i'm cool with it.ps - they are still wastegize

Yes police are nothing more than dogs on leash told what to do. You should care that they are stopping you period. trouble making face or not, they just assuming your up to no good you have freedom to walk same stretch of road as some 42, middle aged white man. Without being stopped.That extra minute of your time taken up ans wasted. and that 42 white man could going on his way to rape some woman in an alley way or some pedo off to do something nasty... thats police prevention...

[Grafter]

community officers maaan, i hate themmy bredrin: ur only stoppin me cos im blackcomm: o dont give me that one, im not white myselfLOOL, so...

[Vtec]

community officers maaan, i hate themmy bredrin: ur only stoppin me cos im blackcomm: o dont give me that one, im not white myselfLOOL, so...

LMAO

[Guest Batman]

What gives me joke is that people will say f*ck police/community support officersBut then they will have a baby with a shotta/gunman etcComplete waste mentalityPeople have no problem with people being called Yunga Bulletface etc and rolling like a d*ckhead making trouble, theyd probably get called 'real' etcBut then Yunga Bulletface, will get SEARCHED by policewhen he blatantly should beand people scream pigsSmh.Stupid American 'No Snitching' Mentality has affected people too much, cuz half the people that scream NO SNITCHING, do not even know what the f*ck*ng phrase means.

[Thun]

The police will search you because they have to been seen to be dogn something to fix the current problem, the police themselves are not the problem, just a tool in the hands of the REAL criminals..

But they can fix the problem by not acting like animals and stopping people by the way they look.Its like the soldiers in Nazi Germany that were told to exterminate people. They tried using the excuse that they were orders but they have a human brain and the capability to stop there own actions.

Nah lol it aint nothin like the Nuremburg excuseWhatever you may beleive there is a lot of black on black crime happening, and a lot more than usual is shown by the mediaThe average person will not think outside the spectre of, it is in the news, so it is realThe police are right to search shifty looking black guysBeen searched bare myself, and it was always with good cause cuz its when im hooded up and looking VERY dodge

The police are obeying orders even if they think it is wrong so it is a similar basis to the soldiers in Nazi Germany obeying there orders.They should only stop people if a crime has been reported and you fit the description or you have committed a crime.Only in a police state do you give police powers to stop and search who they like. They always abuse these powers and most of the time they get it wrong and just create enemies with the public. I want to live in a society were you are not presumed to be a criminal with the police searching you just because they think you might be committing a crime. Allow letting them have them powers all the time and acting like thugs due to the powers going to there heads.

[Davicious X]

It isnt the POLICE who lock people up for a short amount of time.Police arrest you, after that it goes to court.You can put out as many fires as you want but if someone keeps throwing a match on the tinder, sh*t will continue to go up in flames.Although, yes Im sure the police/whoever is acutely aware of the people that are shotting whatever etc, cuz I certainly am..The police will search you because they have to been seen to be dogn something to fix the current problem, the police themselves are not the problem, just a tool in the hands of the REAL criminals..

This post is so strong He-Man broke his arm losing to it in an arm wrestle

[Grafter]

hope ur not addressin me there ciphei wudnt have a yout with a gunman...*touch wood*

[PERFECT*]

cosign what thun said.

[Guest Batman]

The police will search you because they have to been seen to be dogn something to fix the current problem, the police themselves are not the problem, just a tool in the hands of the REAL criminals..

But they can fix the problem by not acting like animals and stopping people by the way they look.Its like the soldiers in Nazi Germany that were told to exterminate people. They tried using the excuse that they were orders but they have a human brain and the capability to stop there own actions.

Nah lol it aint nothin like the Nuremburg excuseWhatever you may beleive there is a lot of black on black crime happening, and a lot more than usual is shown by the mediaThe average person will not think outside the spectre of, it is in the news, so it is realThe police are right to search shifty looking black guysBeen searched bare myself, and it was always with good cause cuz its when im hooded up and looking VERY dodge

The police are obeying orders even if they think it is wrong so it is a similar basis to the soldiers in Nazi Germany obeying there orders.They should only stop people if a crime has been reported and you fit the description or you have committed a crime.Only in a police state do you give police powers to stop and search who they like. They always abuse these powers and most of the time they get it wrong and just create enemies with the public. I want to live in a society were you are not presumed to be a criminal with the police searching you just because they think you might be committing a crime. Allow letting them have them powers all the time and acting like thugs due to the powers going to there heads.

The point is I am saying they do not think its wrongI dont think you can compare searching people because they have been ordered to (which is not breaking the law) To murdering people because they have been ordered to (murdering is a crime therefore creates a SIGNIFIGANT moral dilemmna, where as if you think someone looks supicious, then you will have no qualms to search them)And point being, most people DO fit the descriptionAs I said I carry myself a certain way and it gets me searched so I cant complain, when I have stuff to hide, I carry myself differently because I KNOW I will not be searched.I live where I live and have seen enough things to know the type of people that are MUCH MORE likely to warrant a search, and people who do notAre you honestly saying, if they see someone walking down the road, that they suspect could be carrying a knifethat it is better to leave them, than to search them?They search them, they have nothing, the person gets pissed off, oh well, life goes onThey leave them, they could have a blade, shank someones face off and then a life has been needlessley ended when it could have been preventedPolice arent there to be liked & they never were. They are there to stop crime.People need to learn the value of SELF EMPOWERMENTEject these wankers from our communities instead of putting them on some sort of anti-hero pedastool & then complain when we all suffer because of themAnd stop blaming other people for their problems,sh*t half the people I know that carry are the ones that complain about the searches.People will be quick to blame police but then equally as quick in their idiolization of the gangster lifestyle..-------------Ps..I dont want this convo to detract into what else IN THEORY could be done to PREVENT crimes because that is a totally diff matter and as intelligent people we all know the difference..

[Vtec]

The police will search you because they have to been seen to be dogn something to fix the current problem, the police themselves are not the problem, just a tool in the hands of the REAL criminals..

But they can fix the problem by not acting like animals and stopping people by the way they look.Its like the soldiers in Nazi Germany that were told to exterminate people. They tried using the excuse that they were orders but they have a human brain and the capability to stop there own actions.

Nah lol it aint nothin like the Nuremburg excuseWhatever you may beleive there is a lot of black on black crime happening, and a lot more than usual is shown by the mediaThe average person will not think outside the spectre of, it is in the news, so it is realThe police are right to search shifty looking black guysBeen searched bare myself, and it was always with good cause cuz its when im hooded up and looking VERY dodge

The police are obeying orders even if they think it is wrong so it is a similar basis to the soldiers in Nazi Germany obeying there orders.They should only stop people if a crime has been reported and you fit the description or you have committed a crime.Only in a police state do you give police powers to stop and search who they like. They always abuse these powers and most of the time they get it wrong and just create enemies with the public. I want to live in a society were you are not presumed to be a criminal with the police searching you just because they think you might be committing a crime. Allow letting them have them powers all the time and acting like thugs due to the powers going to there heads.

The point is I am saying they do not think its wrongI dont think you can compare searching people because they have been ordered to (which is not breaking the law) To murdering people because they have been ordered to (murdering is a crime therefore creates a SIGNIFIGANT moral dilemmna, where as if you think someone looks supicious, then you will have no qualms to search them)And point being, most people DO fit the descriptionAs I said I carry myself a certain way and it gets me searched so I cant complain, when I have stuff to hide, I carry myself differently because I KNOW I will not be searched.I live where I live and have seen enough things to know the type of people that are MUCH MORE likely to warrant a search, and people who do notAre you honestly saying, if they see someone walking down the road, that they suspect could be carrying a knifethat it is better to leave them, than to search them?They search them, they have nothing, the person gets pissed off, oh well, life goes onThey leave them, they could have a blade, shank someones face off and then a life has been needlessley ended when it could have been preventedPolice arent there to be liked & they never were. They are there to stop crime.People need to learn the value of SELF EMPOWERMENTEject these wankers from our communities instead of putting them on some sort of anti-hero pedastool & then complain when we all suffer because of themAnd stop blaming other people for their problems,sh*t half the people I know that carry are the ones that complain about the searches.People will be quick to blame police but then equally as quick in their idiolization of the gangster lifestyle..-------------Ps..I dont want this convo to detract into what else IN THEORY could be done to PREVENT crimes because that is a totally diff matter and as intelligent people we all know the difference..

Strong post!

[Thun]

Are you honestly saying, if they see someone walking down the road, that they suspect could be carrying a knifethat it is better to leave them, than to search them?They search them, they have nothing, the person gets pissed off, oh well, life goes onThey leave them, they could have a blade, shank someones face off and then a life has been needlessley ended when it could have been preventedPolice arent there to be liked & they never were, they will do what they are told to because that is what they are there for

Its not up to the police to think 'hey wait a minute, the way that guy is dressed means he might be carrying a knife'. The police are not there to stop and search who they like but attend to 999 calls and police the streets. That dont mean harassing people by the way they look but being on patrol making sure crimes aint being committed.We are going down the road to a major police state when people start accepting that it is likely they will get searched when walking in a supposed free country. Its a shame that people feel they can get boyed by the police and let them stop and search them like some potential criminal.

[Vtec]

We are going down the road to a major police state when people start accepting that it is likely they will get searched when walking in a supposed free country. Its a shame that people feel they can get boyed by the police and let them stop and search them like some potential criminal.

This is what people need to be aware of. Human rights being infringed, guess this will go over most heads. If it ever reaches that day, you will soon see how much people start complaining. But by then you won't have a say in the matter.

[Guest Batman]

Are you honestly saying, if they see someone walking down the road, that they suspect could be carrying a knifethat it is better to leave them, than to search them?They search them, they have nothing, the person gets pissed off, oh well, life goes onThey leave them, they could have a blade, shank someones face off and then a life has been needlessley ended when it could have been preventedPolice arent there to be liked & they never were, they will do what they are told to because that is what they are there for

Its not up to the police to think 'hey wait a minute, the way that guy is dressed means he might be carrying a knife'. The police are not there to stop and search who they like but attend to 999 calls and police the streets. That dont mean harassing people by the way they look but being on patrol making sure crimes aint being committed.We are going down the road to a major police state when people start accepting that it is likely they will get searched when walking in a supposed free country. Its a shame that people feel they can get boyed by the police and let them stop and search them like some potential criminal.

You didn't really answer the question? Most of the searchings that had been occuring where because they beleived people to be drug dealers, which I would say is making sure a crime isn't being commited, also, carrying a knife is a crime, so that is making sure a crime isnt being commited.Should they instead follow the person, and wait till he has plunged said knife into someones chest before acting?All the times when I've been searched, the police HAVE been on patrol (van passes by, Im hooded, I look at the van, and look quickly away again)van stops, comes back, they get out, search meMe doing what I did is behaviour of someone about to, or that has just commited a crimeWe can argue about the police's job till we are both blue in the face BUTTT....if they think you are just about to commit, or are in the process of commiting a crime, then they can and will stop you.Tbh these searches have been happening for hundreds of years..Police have less power now than they ever did.As for the police state thing, that is a much wider issue in which we first have to focus on OURSELVES, THEN the police.You deal with the enemy within before you deal with the enemy without, as I said self-empowerment, reliance, knowledge and solidarity within the community come before castigating of the police because if we had any clue about what we should be doing or who what REALLY is acceptable in the first place, none of this sh*t would happen in the first place.People will always look to exploit where you f*ck up, you will NEVER change that, but what you CAN do is stop f*ck*ng up. I.E. if you let it get to a stage in your commuinity where everyone is a crimninal, the natural reaction is MORE police activity.You cannot stop that, MP's, Police cheifs and gouveners will use the fuel you give them to start a wildfireSo we have to stop giving them fuel.Alll this f*ck the police attitude does is give spineless people validation for their illegal, immoral activity.There can be NO police state if we are all united. The PEOPLE have the power, nobody else. We come like someone suffering with impotenceAlways WANTING to do something, but end of the day it doesnt happen even though you have the tools to get the job done.*brb, leavin work, goin home*

[CAMECHI89]

community officers maaan, i hate themmy bredrin: ur only stoppin me cos im blackcomm: o dont give me that one, im not white myselfLOOL, so...

LMAO

[The Somalian]

yeah I think needs to happen because it should be seen as a repelent to carrying weapons but most time when I have been stopped the police give me aggro try winding me up and they even stopped me when I was wearing shirt and shoes going to work had a wooley hat on but common sense should of told this c*nt not to stop me that is why I have a problem with the way they carry out the searchesso if any of you are stopped call someone close by to record it or record it yourself (you may remember this happened with me after police man tried grips me up got my brother to film it then the c*nt started to behavetalk to me like im a criminal i will talk to u like ur a c*nt

[Rich Kid]

If I get searched and police find a lil bit of herb on me, like a 10's. Will they convisgate it?

[Shawn_Carter]

If I get searched and police find a lil bit of herb on me, like a 10's. Will they convisgate it?

Depends on the individual guy.I've been arrested for that when i was younger.But a few months ago couple cops searched me and found it in my pocket and just llowed it, they were alright though still.

[Shawn_Carter]

Thing is though, its not RACISM, cos they don't go searching my mum or her friends, or 60 year old black guys.And they DO search bait looking white guys.

[PERFECT*]

Are you honestly saying, if they see someone walking down the road, that they suspect could be carrying a knifethat it is better to leave them, than to search them?They search them, they have nothing, the person gets pissed off, oh well, life goes onThey leave them, they could have a blade, shank someones face off and then a life has been needlessley ended when it could have been preventedPolice arent there to be liked & they never were, they will do what they are told to because that is what they are there for

Its not up to the police to think 'hey wait a minute, the way that guy is dressed means he might be carrying a knife'. The police are not there to stop and search who they like but attend to 999 calls and police the streets. That dont mean harassing people by the way they look but being on patrol making sure crimes aint being committed.We are going down the road to a major police state when people start accepting that it is likely they will get searched when walking in a supposed free country. Its a shame that people feel they can get boyed by the police and let them stop and search them like some potential criminal.

You didn't really answer the question? Most of the searchings that had been occuring where because they beleived people to be drug dealers, which I would say is making sure a crime isn't being commited, also, carrying a knife is a crime, so that is making sure a crime isnt being commited.Should they instead follow the person, and wait till he has plunged said knife into someones chest before acting?All the times when I've been searched, the police HAVE been on patrol (van passes by, Im hooded, I look at the van, and look quickly away again)

u really think that looks suspicious enough to warrant a search?

[zlastboss]

if u dress like a respectable member of society u wont get stopped

[Guest Batman]

Are you honestly saying, if they see someone walking down the road, that they suspect could be carrying a knifethat it is better to leave them, than to search them?They search them, they have nothing, the person gets pissed off, oh well, life goes onThey leave them, they could have a blade, shank someones face off and then a life has been needlessley ended when it could have been preventedPolice arent there to be liked & they never were, they will do what they are told to because that is what they are there for

Its not up to the police to think 'hey wait a minute, the way that guy is dressed means he might be carrying a knife'. The police are not there to stop and search who they like but attend to 999 calls and police the streets. That dont mean harassing people by the way they look but being on patrol making sure crimes aint being committed.We are going down the road to a major police state when people start accepting that it is likely they will get searched when walking in a supposed free country. Its a shame that people feel they can get boyed by the police and let them stop and search them like some potential criminal.

You didn't really answer the question? Most of the searchings that had been occuring where because they beleived people to be drug dealers, which I would say is making sure a crime isn't being commited, also, carrying a knife is a crime, so that is making sure a crime isnt being commited.Should they instead follow the person, and wait till he has plunged said knife into someones chest before acting?All the times when I've been searched, the police HAVE been on patrol (van passes by, Im hooded, I look at the van, and look quickly away again)

u really think that looks suspicious enough to warrant a search?

YupSomeone walks with their hands in their pockets, hooded up, see's police and swiftly turns their head from them. and carries walking in the opposite direction.......as if to hide their identity/intentions/escape?It is an obvious reason for questioning and a search dont you think?Also bear in mind it is always at godknows what hour in the morning/late late night in a dodgy area crime-wise..

[JLovely]

Hold tight the policeman that stopped me whilst I was doing 55 in 30 and not giving me any points 'cause I "look like a good youth". Man this babyface gets me away with murder and freebies.I will never say f*ck the police. Nor will I sit down while other try to take the piss out of our protectors and heroes!

[JLovely]

if u dress like a respectable member of society u wont get stopped

I don't agree.