Drift Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 i swear giggs gets free studio time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Why he buy a studio? Besides you still need a engineer, to mix your sh*t. Its rare anyone gets both, well not both and be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WAVESURFER Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Hate when TF comes in & fraffs up these "music industry" threads.If you know so much about all this, how come you can't sort out your mates' careers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I hate the fact that you attempt to ride my d*ck at every opportunity possible.My "mates" aren't trying to break the UK music industry. Last time they submitted a song to UK radio was Cheerio all the way back in 2005... Oh and last time I checked my mates was on Rocafella, Dipset, and been around the world.Oh and I know a lot about UK music distribution, maybe because I do it everyday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 The reason he has been signed is cos he has managed 100,000 mixtapes sales in 2years, record labels are businesses and these figures show giggs is good for business100,000 x £2.50 = £250,000Lets take away some expenses, lets call them £50,000Which leaves 200k, now does Giggs really look like a 200k up nigga to you?100,000 mixtapes sold = Gas Mark 7.guys probably has a nice whipplus the sn1 shopand money networking with pl in americainvestment in next mixtape/album+live PAs..he might be in the blackthe mixtapes are actually £5and giggs has definitely made at least 200,000k, but most likely that went str8 back in2 the music, which is why he dusnt look like a " 200k up nigga to you ".wen u think about logically 100,000 is not gas mark 7as i have said, he sold 20,000 copies of walk in the park and that was after 3mnths, its been another 9 mnths since thenplus hollow meets blade, walk in the park, another quick 1, who said dat, are all street smashs hits. 200% they have all moved way over 20,000 copies aswellSo your telling me you think he made £500k? Does he pay for beats? Artwork? No I know these for facts.So his costs in selling CDs are Recording - Studio time & maybe a engineerPhysical - Which for Walk In The Park the distributor would have paid for and then recoup before they pay, so then the mixtapes which is just pressing up covers (lets say £300 for 10k) and CDRs. All in all your product is costing less than a 50p per unit (Well it better).Promotion - Videos, Giggs has 2 videos that he paid for and one of them I know was shorts.So if you think he invested 100k back in music, smh. Whats scary is by your reckoning he made £500k. Infact why am I even debating...Lt me just say if you sell 20k CDs in 3 months from release date, 6 months down the link your be lucky to have moved another 10k. Very lucky. Infact with the marketing budget these man have, your be a genius.Lol at 20k people BUYING Another Quick One. shud have made myself clearer tbh, i meant all his mixtapes combined have easy moved more than 20,000 units/basically ure a giggs h8er and are coming with these irrelevant statistics, when all i initially said is that he has moved 100,000 cdsno point us speculating the exact figure he has generated, cos really and truly we no1 on vip2 knowswith all ure alleged expertise on the industry i would have thought, that it would be pretty easy 2 recognize the value of som1 who moves 100,000 with no support, which is all i initially saidfinally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 u have stated incorrectly tho walk in the park costs 7.99 acording 2 itunesand all giggs mixtapes are minimum 4.99 http://www.ukrecordshop.com/search.php?mod...arch&page=1 No I haven't, you just havent thought properly. I'm saying £2.50 cos if you sell something for £8, you dont get the full £8. The retailers have to eat. The distributors have to eat. Your the last person in the food chain.nt wen ure independent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 u have stated incorrectly tho walk in the park costs 7.99 acording 2 itunesand all giggs mixtapes are minimum 4.99 http://www.ukrecordshop.com/search.php?mod...arch&page=1 No I haven't, you just havent thought properly. I'm saying £2.50 cos if you sell something for £8, you dont get the full £8. The retailers have to eat. The distributors have to eat. Your the last person in the food chain.nt wen ure independentBeen listening to too muchof his gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 shud have made myself clearer tbh, i meant all his mixtapes combined have easy moved more than 20,000 units/basically ure a giggs h8er and are coming with these irrelevant statistics, when all i initially said is that he has moved 100,000 cdsno point us speculating the exact figure he has generated, cos really and truly we no1 on vip2 knowswith all ure alleged expertise on the industry i would have thought, that it would be pretty easy 2 recognize the value of som1 who moves 100,000 with no support, which is all i initially saidOkay thats clearer.I dont hate Giggs and your find the statistics are very relevant.I recognize his value. He deserves his deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 u have stated incorrectly tho walk in the park costs 7.99 acording 2 itunesand all giggs mixtapes are minimum 4.99 http://www.ukrecordshop.com/search.php?mod...arch&page=1 No I haven't, you just havent thought properly. I'm saying £2.50 cos if you sell something for £8, you dont get the full £8. The retailers have to eat. The distributors have to eat. Your the last person in the food chain.nt wen ure independentBeen listening to too muchof his gas.i dnt listen 2 that dogmanits a known fact indie artists get a greater %if they didn't it would defeat the purpose and evry1 wud just want a major deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero001 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I don't like Ndubz or any of this sh*t thats charting but I agree with Brisco about Dappy, he definitely has a talent for writing infectious hooks.Was it Brisco who said specifically "writing infectious hooks"? Just wonderingthis was f*ckin neeky allow it.For you to think I was being serious says a lot about how neeky both of you are.Take sh*t too seriouslyAnd lol @ TF seemingly always finding something of mine to quote thats supposedly incorrect before making his initial point. Am I the gateway or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Fam I work distributing indie artists, I've seen pratically EVERY distribution contract that ALL of the indie distribution companies in this country issue.I could breakdown dealer prices, percentage splits, racking at retail, digital distribution, etc in my sleep (and I probably do)Plus £2.50 per sale is WAY better than a major artist, trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 And lol @ TF seemingly always finding something of mine to quote thats supposedly incorrect before making his initial point. Am I the gateway or something?Darg, what you talking about?! I skim read all the 8 pages in like 5 minutes, your post was just so f*ck*ng neeky it stuck out and I had to quote it. No send, now jam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero001 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I made the Flo-Rida MIMS comparsion cos they are both light skin niggers, who had no real previous (altho at least we can find a bunch of MIMS mixtapes before the mainstream), and only deliver pop singles, debut albums sold around the same (despite Flo-Rida's costing WAY more to produce) and I cant even put it down to age cos MIMS is younger, yet Flo-Rida got more commercial hang time.My point is Sway delivers the same commercial records as Stryder. So the product as far as the gatekeepers to the mainstream world are concerned all sounds the same. Then when you look at the statue of the features which trust me they do...Lemar & Akon >>>>>>> Amelle & Taio CruzNames may be bigger but both songs were sh*t. Who was the Lemar song for? Lemar fans are generally older white females who were boyband fans and have no interest in rap, especially someone who looks like Sway. The people who bought Tinchy song have no interest in Lemar.The Akon song was sh*t, point blank, end of, no debate.Tinchy > Sway by a long shot. Tinchy has got a sound with Fraser T Smith, Sway has f*ck all. No comparison whatsoever based on quality of singlesLol @ Lemar > Taio Cruz as well. To the fans who buy Tinchy/pop music? And this Lemar yeah? The one who's album flopped and is currently having an identity crisis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojo Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Did Walk in Da Park chart at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anelka Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 My "mates" aren't trying to break the UK music industry. Last time they submitted a song to UK radio was Cheerio all the way back in 2005... Oh and last time I checked my mates was on Rocafella, Dipset, and been around the world. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Names may be bigger but both songs were sh*t. Who was the Lemar song for? Lemar fans are generally older white females who were boyband fans and have no interest in rap, especially someone who looks like Sway. The people who bought Tinchy song have no interest in Lemar.The Akon song was sh*t, point blank, end of, no debate.Tinchy > Sway by a long shot. Tinchy has got a sound with Fraser T Smith, Sway has f*ck all. No comparison whatsoever based on quality of singlesLol @ Lemar > Taio Cruz as well. To the fans who buy Tinchy/pop music? And this Lemar yeah? The one who's album flopped and is currently having an identity crisis?Your missing the point and who I was talking too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Did Walk in Da Park chart at all?Everything charts. You mean did it chart in the top 30 albums? No.Think it was 143 or 134. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WAVESURFER Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 My "mates" aren't trying to break the UK music industry. Last time they submitted a song to UK radio was Cheerio all the way back in 2005... Oh and last time I checked my mates was on Rocafella, Dipset, and been around the world.Oh and I know a lot about UK music distribution, maybe because I do it everyday...That's funny, the last time I checked, your mates were unsigned and washed up.Maybe you should check again, cause I'm pretty sure they're not on Rocafella or Dipset now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubby Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Didn't they say something like they were making moves in Africa in the last Youtube interview? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WAVESURFER Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Didn't they say something like they were making moves in Africa in the last Youtube interview?PMSL if they did.Only moves they'll be making over there is e-mail scams. More lucrative than their music, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafter Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 guy dont even look like hes feelin the tune himself+ one a dem gyal is actually an eyesore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 That's funny, the last time I checked, your mates were unsigned and washed up.Maybe you should check again, cause I'm pretty sure they're not on Rocafella or Dipset now.S.A.S achievements >>>> 95% of the UK rappers.Washed up rappers aren't doing shows in Poland for 12 thousand Euros less than two weeks ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 EDIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Didn't they say something like they were making moves in Africa in the last Youtube interview?No they said they was looking to go Nigeria and all of Africa this winter, to check out the scene out there and what they can do over there, but as of yet haven't found the right person/people/company to bring them out there. So in the meantime as it stands they are going on tour with Nipsey Hussle and Twista this winter instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WAVESURFER Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 That's funny, the last time I checked, your mates were unsigned and washed up.Maybe you should check again, cause I'm pretty sure they're not on Rocafella or Dipset now.S.A.S achievements >>>> 95% of the UK rappers.Washed up rappers aren't doing shows in Poland for 12 thousand Euros less than two weeks ago...I wouldn't class "hanging around in Dipset/Rocafella's shadows" and "never releasing any albums" as achievements, but obviously we differ there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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