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Summer Transfer Window 2012/13


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Selling RVP for 15 mil + 9 mil add ons? pmsl

Better hope he gets golden boot, wins prem and CL to get your money.

The biggest pisstake when selling to UTD is the casual fans start talking to you. They'll say things like, why do you support your team if all they sell their big players to us etc I don't think 'RVP' is good enough for us etc He was only good playing for a smaller team

When Arsenal fans saw him as a god

lool, it burns!

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Rvp

Rooney

Welbz

Chico

Berbz

Podolski

Giroud

Chamakh

Park

Bendter

Damn. Feel for arsenal boy

Dont.

Defoe.

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It was once a tiny room on the first floor of Manchester City's Carrington training complex, not much bigger than a broom cupboard, where successive managers from Kevin Keegan to Stuart Pearce and Sven-Goran Eriksson would field questions at close range from the press. Today, partition walls have been removed to house a team of full-time analysts who study every touch, turn and sprint made from the Premier League champions down to the club's Under-9s. The world of data analysis has developed rapidly within football in recent years but not, City believe, beyond the guarded confines of its clubs. That is about to change.

On Friday, City will make available through its website the data on every player in every team from every game in the Premier League last season. That may not enrapture the supporter fixated on Robin van Persie's next career move but to the growing number of researchers, sports scientists and bloggers seeking new ways to measure performance and value a player, it is potentially ground-breaking.

Until now, data that costs all Premier League clubs a small fortune each season has not been widely available or at least widely accessible to the public. Baseball may have been revolutionised by Bill James's sabermetric findings from the late 1970s onwards, leading to Michael Lewis's book Moneyball and now a film starring Brad Pitt, basketball coaches make tactical decisions based on live data during a game, but developments in football have largely remained in-house.

As Gavin Fleig, the head of performance analysis at City, explains: "Bill James kick-started the analytics revolution in baseball. That made a real difference and has become integrated in that sport. Somewhere in the world there is football's Bill James, who has all the skills and wants to use them but hasn't got the data. We want to help find that Bill James, not necessarily for Manchester City but for the benefit of analytics in football. I don't want to be at another analytics conference in five years' time talking to people who would love to analyse the data but cannot develop their own concepts because all the data is not publicly available."

Fleig's full-time department alone consists of four analysts attached to City's first team and six analysts working at every level of the club from Under-21 to Under-9 level. As he conducts a tour of the offFraff Hunter HD3, one analyst is dissecting an Under-18s game against Chelsea. Ensuring the next generation is following the football strategy of the first team is paramount, although the data is not simply to educate young players on the way up. Far from it.

Two years ago Vincent Kompany instigated a weekly review of City's defensive performances with the analysis team. Every defender in Roberto Mancini's match-day squad now spends 15 minutes before a game assessing the unit's previous display, on topics such as transitions in play when City have lost the ball, their relationship with the midfield, defending crosses and recovering back into shape. "I would argue that having the best defensive record over the past two years is partly down to the reflection process the defenders have on a weekly basis win, lose or draw," says Fleig. "They have a constant guide as to how they are doing."

Work stations at Carrington allow every player to analyse a breakdown of their performance 24 hours after a game. Each has a specific development area to study too, if they wish. Gareth Barry, for example, can see how he protected his back four, his goal attempts and movement to receive the ball. A full-back such as Micah Richards can review one-on-one tussles, pass selection, positioning, recovery runs, supporting attacks, stopping crosses and running with the ball. There is also a personal highlights package they can play in the gym, a good way to boost confidence on the way back from injury.

Friday's data launch is for a global community, however. Fleig has worked closely with Opta, one of the first sports data organisations to embrace analytics in football and which has given City permission to make the database available, in an attempt to support the analytical community.

He explains: "The responsibility for developing analytics has always tended to fall on the clubs and that hasn't really changed, even as the community of statisticians, bloggers and students who are focusing on performances and analytics has grown dramatically. Bill James didn't work for a club. He was a statistician with a normal job outside of the sport but he was able to get hold of the data because it was made publicly available by the broadcasters and the league itself. There is a data culture in America. There isn't a data culture in the UK, although we are getting there.

"The whole reason for putting this data out there is to open the doors. The data has value, previously it has been kept in-house and behind guarded doors, but there is a recognition now that clubs need to help this space develop. There are a lot of people out there blogging and doing their own research and they can do a lot more with this data. I hope it will have a big impact on those who want to do research. It might just be the armchair enthusiast. If the worst it does is show a few people that there are different ways of looking at a player's performance, then great. If it helps universities and gets the blogging world talking and coming up with fantastic ways of modelling performance, that is what we want. We want to engage with them."

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Yeah I know there is, he got the first player but not the second.

No

First of all as you point out. Rooney was 27 million, Lucas Moura would have worked out to be around 36 million

Rooney had for all intents and purposes, proved himself capable of playing in the premier league during his relatively short spell there

Rooney was also, due to his talent, not going to stay at Everton. He would have moved to to another domestic club.

You do not let the biggest young talent of the last 20 years go to one of your rivals. Stumping up 27m for an talented young English player who also performed very well in the previous international tournament is acceptable

I'm not sure how you are drawing a comparison with the Moura situation & an almost 10m difference in prFraff Hunter HD3

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Are people really trying to compare £27 million in 2004 to £36 million in 2012?

By the rate of inflation adjust £27 million in 2004 to 2012 and you get £35 million which is a massive 1 million less than PSG paid for Lucas. 8-)

Please take into account Everton are bruk to the extent they still have a wooden stadium and that gives you an idea of the bargaining position you were in. Sao Paulo didn't need to sell, they were cool to keep him.

The fee Ferguson paid for Rooney was the highest ever fee paid for a player under 20 years old, lol at trying to downplay it. Newcastle were the next highest bidders at £20 million which means you payed 7 million over the next bidder.

Now Sao Paulo said that you bid £27.4 million, PSG paid £36 million which is circa £9 million over what you paid.

So again tell me how based on what Ferguson said these two transfers are really that different?

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Why the sad face Porch?

I thought we were going to bump Tottenham but it wasn't to be

So it's £30m and £5m in add ons

As long as Mourinho uses Luka in a two with Xabi and not in direct competition then I will be happy regardless the fee

Means less games for Khedira :D

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The guy cries there is no value in the transfer market

When for years he has been paying over the odds for players

Exactly.

Man Utd fans are f*cked in the head, as long as I've been watching football they 've been breaking transfer records.

Off the top of my head Andy Cole, Jaap Staam, Veron, Rooney, Rio Ferdinand but whatever.

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Are people really trying to compare £27 million in 2004 to £36 million in 2012?

By the rate of inflation adjust £27 million in 2004 to 2012 and you get £35 million which is a massive 1 million less than PSG paid for Lucas. 8-)

Please take into account Everton are bruk to the extent they still have a wooden stadium and that gives you an idea of the bargaining position you were in. Sao Paulo didn't need to sell, they were cool to keep him.

The fee Ferguson paid for Rooney was the highest ever fee paid for a player under 20 years old, lol at trying to downplay it. Newcastle were the next highest bidders at £20 million which means you payed 7 million over the next bidder.

Now Sao Paulo said that you bid £27.4 million, PSG paid £36 million which is circa £9 million over what you paid.

So again tell me how based on what Ferguson said these two transfers are really that different?

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The guy cries there is no value in the transfer market

When for years he has been paying over the odds for players

Exactly.

Man Utd fans are f*cked in the head, as long as I've been watching football they 've been breaking transfer records.

Off the top of my head Andy Cole, Jaap Staam, Veron, Rooney, Rio Ferdinand but whatever.

Cole

Stam

Nistelrooy

Veron

Ferdinand

Rooney(teenage world record)

Berbatov(was just a few k off Sheva)

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"So many haters are clocking our figures..."

Nobody is hating

Real have spent a lot of money in the market(after all you shouldn't forget your our feeder club)

Not once has Perez said no value in the market or football has gone mad

Sir Alex seems to do that a lot when things don't go his way

He claimed Hazard was over priced but yet he bidded the same amount for him

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"So many haters are clocking our figures..."

Nobody is hating

Real have spent a lot of money in the market(after all you shouldn't forget your our feeder club)

Not once has Perez said no value in the market or football has gone mad

Sir Alex seems to do that a lot when things don't go his way

He claimed Hazard was over priced but yet he bidded the same amount for him

"I'm just tryna bring garage through

From the underground straight to you

Used to wanna screw and brew

Now they wanna join the crew"

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