afc "In Wenger we trust"

[Capricious Beats]

Would be funny if I was who he thought I was.

[roberz999]

Would be funny if I was who he thought I was.

lol mazhars in denial yhe u r white ur a white paki

[Capricious Beats]

I’m not illiterate like you. In England there are schools.Why don’t you go and see your batty mate while im posting.

[Lenny]

Who agrees with me on this,No Arsenal fans probabaly but..You have to have won the Champions League and League title in England, Spain or Italy to be called a World Class manager.Being the best in England but failing to beat the other big clubs in Europe for me isnt good enough.If you havent lifted a trophy that the best teams in the world play in how are you world class.

mazhar u dumb paki shut da f*ck up u dont knw sh*t about football ur in love with sounir so u support spurs and diss arsenal

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[Roscoe]

Who agrees with me on this,No Arsenal fans probabaly but..You have to have won the Champions League and League title in England, Spain or Italy to be called a World Class manager.Being the best in England but failing to beat the other big clubs in Europe for me isnt good enough.If you havent lifted a trophy that the best teams in the world play in how are you world class.

mazhar u dumb paki shut da f*ck up u dont knw sh*t about football ur in love with sounir so u support spurs and diss arsenal

loooooooollgot taken for sundip

[ChickenCottage]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...ans-913161.html"Football has rarely set such a fascinating test as the one now unfolding at the Emirates Stadium. It is about nerve and understanding of the dynamics of a football club and the possibility that there is a way of going forward that breaks new ground and, one day, might deliver an ultimately satisfying moment of success.It is not one, if you hadn't guessed where we are going with this, for Arsène Wenger but for those who have for so long ridden on his coat-tails, gorged on the reflected glory of beautiful and, until the last few years, winning football.No, it is not the trial of Wenger but of Arsenal's fans and it wants to see if they are men and women of patience and distinction or another bunch of For-God's- sake-win-for-us-because-it-is-our-right-and-your-duty wallahs.What they don't seem to understand is that Wenger doesn't need or want their warm approval.If ever a football manager has created his own terrain, his own set of values on which alone he was prepared to be judged, it is surely the football aesthete from Alsace. He couldn't make it plainer that he would much rather have his followers' trust based not on blind belief in some outlandish new theories he has developed down the years but a proper understanding of what he has always been about.In the fallout from the discouraging defeat by Fulham – one, however, that was only narrowly avoided at roughly this time last year before an exquisite run of performance that was splintered only by the sickening injury to Eduardo and perhaps the excessive reaction to it within an essentially young dressing room – the issue could not have been crystallised more clearly.It is has been underlined by the chief shareholder, Danny Fiszman, and the manager. Fiszman makes it clear that Wenger could have written a cheque for £30m at any time before or after the defections of Alexander Hleb and Mathieu Flamini. Wenger earlier confirmed to The Independent that despite the financial underpinning – and confidence in his judgement he enjoyed in the boardroom – he would go his own way at his own pace and it didn't matter if Scolari chased down Robinho or Ferguson landed Berbatov. Wenger had his own faith in the future and it didn't matter if you believed or didn't, he knew what he was going to do.Ultimately, of course, much will depend on the continued belief in – and gratitude for – all Wenger has achieved. The question now facing every Arsenal fan – and current and putative directors and investors – is whether Wenger's version of football's Holy Grail is something to be prized and suffered or tossed out as so much fancy thinking placed in the path of such financial behemoths as Chelsea and Manchester United.Wenger's polarising statement was so at odds with the prevailing Premier League wisdom – and operating methods – at the very least it deserves to be preserved as a notable football relic.He declared: "When we decided to build the stadium I wanted to anticipate the possibility of financial restrictions, so I concentrated on youth. I also felt the best way to create an identity with the way we play football, to get players to integrate into our culture, with our beliefs, our values, was to get them as young as possible and develop them together. I felt it would be an interesting experiment to see players grow together with these qualities and with a love of the club."Wenger allowed that this was an extremely idealistic vision of the world of football.But then what was new? Hasn't Wenger always bought low and sold, however reluctantly, high? Hasn't he eschewed the business of chance and speculation, and can't the most casual observer recite the glorious results of such an instinct down the years: Vieira, Henry, Anelka, Flamini, Hleb – and now is it not resplendent again in the status of Cesc Fabregas and Emmanuel Adebayor and the swiftly unfurled quality of young Samir Nasri, signed at £12m on a long-term contract?In the end you can only speak for yourself and your own instincts. You can say that Wenger is on some fantasy trip of his own. Or you can assert, as the belief is here, that what he promises is something that makes supporting a football club truly worthwhile. It is because Wenger's club is not about seeing who can spend the most, and stockpiling all available talent, but developing a group of players who he believes will grow up before our fascinated eyes, and into something quite splendid and bold.Who would trade such adventure – and yes, for surely it is not a dirty word, idealism – for a dubious stream of big-money buys? The word in north London is that right now quite a number would. Are they right? Only if it is true what the old gridiron coach Vince Lombardi said, that winning was not the important thing but the only thing.Wenger offers another option. He says that the ambition to win is fundamental, but it is also important how you do it, how you build an understanding of how you secure the future and shape that most precious of assets: a real identity.Wenger wants it all. He wants beautiful football and, sooner rather than later, he would like to win. Yes, it is a dream, but sometimes a dream comes true – and doesn't that make the life of a true fan ultimately worthwhile? "

[8BALL]

good read

[Kompressor]

Wengers untouchable.Wenger created the INVINCIBLES - BEG YOU TRY TELL ME ANOTHER MANAGER THAT DONE THAT.WELL THENI SUGGEST YOU REST YOUR CHIN GRAB A PILLOW AND GOTOBED YOU FRAFFGAN

I beg all the Arsenal fans tell me what the bigger achievement was, Winning the treble or going the whole premiership season unbeaten. coz if your all honest with yourselves i think i know which you'd rather doUnited lost 4 games in the Treble season how many did Arsenal win in their attempted treble season(serious question). To to Address the whole winning things without really spending and just using kids, Fergie done it in 96 Wenger is very good but still hasn't done anything in Europe and hasn't retained the league, i think even he'd see that as a failiurea good manager wins things A great one dominates Fergie>>>>Wenger

[Guest Medic]

Who agrees with me on this,No Arsenal fans probabaly but..You have to have won the Champions League and League title in England, Spain or Italy to be called a World Class manager.Being the best in England but failing to beat the other big clubs in Europe for me isnt good enough.If you havent lifted a trophy that the best teams in the world play in how are you world class.

mazhar u dumb paki shut da f*ck up u dont knw sh*t about football ur in love with sounir so u support spurs and diss arsenal

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lmaoman denied himself. f*ck*ng hell.

[Taurus]

just read what he said again omg i cant stop laughingthe way he dropped it and swang them names about mazhar and sounir you know

[Fearless-Guy]

that independent article v interesting readWenger >_

[Shatterstar]

Arsenal Join Appiah RaceArsenal have reportedly entered the hunt to sign Ghanaian midfielder Stephen Appiah, who is a free agent after having been released by former club Fenerbahce. * »Comments (102) * Print This Story * Send To A Friend * Contact UsArsenal Join Appiah Racegalleria zoom * * *Appiah has already been linked with a host of clubs this summer including West Ham, Tottenham, Genoa and Juventus and it now appears that Arsene Wenger may be about to make a move for the midfielder.The Ghanaian enjoyed a miserable season last term. Injury forced him to miss most of the season, including the African Cup of Nations, and the midfielder is now keen to restart his career.The 27-year-old joined Fenerbahce from Juventus in 2005 and reports had suggested he might be in line for a return to Turin, although he has also reportedly expressed an interest in moving to the Premier League.West Ham had thought to be in pole position to sign the midfielder, yet with finances an issue at Upton Park and the club currently managerless, following the resignation of Alan Curbishley this week, Arsenal may now become favourites to secure Appiah’s signature.Arsene Wenger’s hunt for a midfielder to replace the departed Mathieu Flamini and Gilberto Silva has been well-documented. Moves for Gareth Barry and Xabi Alonso had been mooted but no offer materialised from the Emirates before the close of the transfer window.Speaking to The Telegraph about a proposed move to North London, the Ghanaian reportedly confirmed that negotiations had taken place but remained coy about his future. He said: “There are talks, there are talks – I can’t say anything yet.”

[Francis Coquelin]

Arsenal Join Appiah RaceArsenal have reportedly entered the hunt to sign Ghanaian midfielder Stephen Appiah, who is a free agent after having been released by former club Fenerbahce. * »Comments (102) * Print This Story * Send To A Friend * Contact UsArsenal Join Appiah Racegalleria zoom * * *Appiah has already been linked with a host of clubs this summer including West Ham, Tottenham, Genoa and Juventus and it now appears that Arsene Wenger may be about to make a move for the midfielder.The Ghanaian enjoyed a miserable season last term. Injury forced him to miss most of the season, including the African Cup of Nations, and the midfielder is now keen to restart his career.The 27-year-old joined Fenerbahce from Juventus in 2005 and reports had suggested he might be in line for a return to Turin, although he has also reportedly expressed an interest in moving to the Premier League.West Ham had thought to be in pole position to sign the midfielder, yet with finances an issue at Upton Park and the club currently managerless, following the resignation of Alan Curbishley this week, Arsenal may now become favourites to secure Appiah’s signature.Arsene Wenger’s hunt for a midfielder to replace the departed Mathieu Flamini and Gilberto Silva has been well-documented. Moves for Gareth Barry and Xabi Alonso had been mooted but no offer materialised from the Emirates before the close of the transfer window.Speaking to The Telegraph about a proposed move to North London, the Ghanaian reportedly confirmed that negotiations had taken place but remained coy about his future. He said: “There are talks, there are talks – I can’t say anything yet.”

comment i got from young guns

I can honestly say that i broke this appiah thing on transfer deadline night but i think its pure spec. my good friend Darren Powell is mates with Kieran Gibbs, i went out with them in wimbledon last night and spoke 2 Kieran about arsenal. I can tell u now he is such a nice geezer, he has got the right attitude to make it/ Anyway I asked him if he knew anything about appiah and he said no, he said that he normally can tell when there is a new signing on the way because arsene normally shoots of during training. he said the way arsene works is amazing, he said he analyses everything in training and watches the every session start 2 finish. Kieran reckons that we dont need anyone, he said to look out for Ramsey aparently he is doing some amazing things in training at the moment. I asked who is the best player and he said fabregas and walcott? he said theo is unbelievable but he struggles to convert what he does in training to the game, apparently he is working a lot with the club psychologist. so expect big things. i also asked who is the most skilful and he said adebayor and van persie.

thoughts?

[TF S4DK]

Adebayor can do tricks but he has nowhere near the finesse of Robin, I see it on two training days. I think the most thing people dont realise about Adebayor is how fast he really is.I wouldnt be suprised if Walcott was sick in training as them man was calling him "Messi" smh.The weird thing is man you to tell me Matthew Connolly was sick in training & youth matches but as soon as Wenger turned up or he knew he was watching, his legs would jelly on him. Abeyie was meant to be sick in training with the tricks too.

[Samir Carlos]

I can honestly say that i broke this appiah thing on transfer deadline night but i think its pure spec. my good friend Darren Powell is mates with Kieran Gibbs, i went out with them in wimbledon last night and spoke 2 Kieran about arsenal. I can tell u now he is such a nice geezer, he has got the right attitude to make it/ Anyway I asked him if he knew anything about appiah and he said no, he said that he normally can tell when there is a new signing on the way because arsene normally shoots of during training. he said the way arsene works is amazing, he said he analyses everything in training and watches the every session start 2 finish. Kieran reckons that we dont need anyone, he said to look out for Ramsey aparently he is doing some amazing things in training at the moment. I asked who is the best player and he said fabregas and walcott? he said theo is unbelievable but he struggles to convert what he does in training to the game, apparently he is working a lot with the club psychologist. so expect big things. i also asked who is the most skilful and he said adebayor and van persie.

thoughts?

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[Avon Barksdale]

I can honestly say that i broke this appiah thing on transfer deadline night but i think its pure spec. my good friend Darren Powell is mates with Kieran Gibbs, i went out with them in wimbledon last night and spoke 2 Kieran about arsenal. I can tell u now he is such a nice geezer, he has got the right attitude to make it/ Anyway I asked him if he knew anything about appiah and he said no, he said that he normally can tell when there is a new signing on the way because arsene normally shoots of during training. he said the way arsene works is amazing, he said he analyses everything in training and watches the every session start 2 finish. Kieran reckons that we dont need anyone, he said to look out for Ramsey aparently he is doing some amazing things in training at the moment. I asked who is the best player and he said fabregas and walcott? he said theo is unbelievable but he struggles to convert what he does in training to the game, apparently he is working a lot with the club psychologist. so expect big things. i also asked who is the most skilful and he said adebayor and van persie.

thoughts?

www.welikeabet.com says:IS THIS TRUEwww.welikeabet.com says:Kieran reckons that we dont need anyone, he said to look out for Ramsey aparently he is doing some amazing things in training at the moment. I asked who is the best player and he said fabregas and walcott? he said theo is unbelievable but he struggles to convert what he does in training to the game, apparently he is working a lot with the club psychologist. so expect big things.www.welikeabet.com says:DOG U THEREBen © she only sleeps when its raining.. says:yehwww.welikeabet.com says:whys he need sighkologistBen © she only sleeps when its raining.. says:he isnt..

:D

[TF S4DK]

Stephane M'Bia has confirmed to skysports.com that Arsenal failed with a late bid to sign him in the transfer window.The Cameroon international was the subject of Everton interest over the summer, but his club Rennes refused to let him leave.22-year-old M'Bia does not want to upset Rennes, having played his whole career with the Brittany outfit, but his desire to move to the Premier League remains.M'Bia will now concentrate on his Ligue 1 duties with Rennes until January, when the transfer window re-opens."Listen, I am a Rennes player, the [transfer] market will open in January and I will concentrate and do a good job for Rennes then, hopefully, come January we will see what happens," he told skysports.com.Gunners approachEverton were favourites to land the player over the summer, while the likes of Newcastle, Tottenham, Celtic and Rangers were all linked.But Arsenal almost grabbed him with a late move, which again was rejected by Rennes."Everyone knows there are clubs that are after me, that is not new, Arsenal made contact in the last hours of the past market but the club did not want to let me go," he added."Rennes is looking to improve my pay, I have already decided to stay here against my wish, however everyone knows I want to move to the Premier League to improve myself and play in the biggest league in the world."

[Mr. Gayle]

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