Black prime minister in the uk?

[Mr Q]

Jigga President is black remix

[Brandnew]

I will be completely honest with you now.Britain>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>America - in terms of politics, in terms of law and in terms of multiculturalism. I have a big problem, and that problem is RACIAL BIGOTS that seem to want everything ONE colour. In particular those that keep hinting and calling for black Prime Ministers etc.I think that if there is to be a black Prime Minister one day, it should not be like this Obama race where people have voted a certain way because of skin colour. It should be because someone has applied for the post and won. That person's skin colour should not have any part in the position of a job.It's quite contradicting really because there is all this talk of people being employed based on their skills and not because of skin colour and now, where there is a high position, it is important for people to want that person to be a particular skin colour.Why is it that a lot black people cry out about these things? What's wrong with a Asian Prime Minister?Why does everything have to be black to make things equal?TRUE equality is when people say "I don't give a sh*t what colour the Prime Minister is as long as he/she is good in his/her role".I actually backed McCain because of all the hype of electing someone due to skin colour. That is not equal.As for this country being more broken and more racist than America? LMFAO that is just jokes. We are far more integrated and accepting on all people of all nationalities and cultures.If there are not many black people in parliament, who's fault is that? You as a person have the right just as any one else to join a party, run for MP and earn your place in the cabinet.Who's fault is it?I come from nothing and I am heading for Parliament. It's not because I am white that I will hopefully get this role. It's because I don't smoke drugs, I don't hang in gangs, I get on with my education and I work tirelessly and give up my time to help people in my borough.Anyone can do it.It was the same with Obama. He didn't TALK THE TALK, he WALKED THE WALK. All this TALK will lead to no WALKING tbh.

dude get real...if u ddnt go to eton/oxford/cambridge or were a member of the bullingdon etc ...ure not goin nowhere near higher level politics...refer back to my first post...this is a class issue...i reckon the fact that u as a white male(im assuming) hasnt got half a chance of becoming PM if u dnt come from a certain class and havnt been to certain schools is more of a problem than the whole black PM thing.first things first people..address the bigger picture not the little side issues..Peace

Please. Do not brush off your negativity on to me. It has nothing to do with class, race and whatever else you want to use in order to spread your own insecurities with life.I can make it and I know I will. Yes, I come from working class background and no I didn't go Cambridge and was not a member of the Bullingdon.. BUT remember this... I do not have to impress rich people or higher tiered politicians. They are a minority. The larger electorate are people like you and me and I know that if I work hard enough in my borough and serve the people, I can get there and it is the same for anyone else.

AND LET ME ALSO ADD...Sure, it may be slightly easier for someone that did go Cambridge because they are surrounded by positive people and are encouraged to learn.They got no one holding them back.People like you and me, we come from boroughs where the next man sitting next to you wants to hold you back and stop you from succeeding.This makes things harder for us, but certainly not impossible.If you ignore the negativity and persevere in your chosen field, YOU CAN MAKE IT!

dnt be so f*ckin stooopid young man...you need to get more familiar with the environment you are trying to get into..and for the record the heirachy exists mostly in the labour party but even the conservatives have a machine working behind closed doors and that is the reason why more qualified/capable people were brushed to the side while Cameron who had never done a single days political work was brought in...if u feel u r going to make it then fair play to you but dnt tell me im tryna rub off any type of negativity on you when im merely stating the obvious...there is too many sociological FACTS for you to even start trying to dispute anything i have said.You representing your 'burough' means nothing in the bigger political scheme of things...come back to me when ure in the house of commons making real moves not none of this local council rubbish that doesnt change the price of bread.Good luck btw

[JLovely]

it'll be one of them asians b4 us, stinking out downing street . u know them lot support each other.

smh

[Mr Q]

it'll be one of them asians b4 us, stinking out downing street . u know them lot support each other.

smh

[Guest LucaPiano]

America don't have the equivliant of the queen, dont want to burst you're bubble but it wont happen in a million years

[NO SUNSHINE]

Are any of you really qualified to be making these broad generalisations about what politicians or the middle/upper classes or white people in general think about ethnic minorities in politics?Plus black people only make up 2.5% of the UK population so I don't know why you would expect to have any more than 12/600 black MP's (12/600 = 2%).And like somebody said, there is a working class Scot from a poor background as prime minister, which is actually harder to go and achieve something from than being a mixed race man born into a priviliged life like Barack Obama

[Brandnew]

Are any of you really qualified to be making these broad generalisations about what politicians or the middle/upper classes or white people in general think about ethnic minorities in politics?Plus black people only make up 2.5% of the UK population so I don't know why you would expect to have any more than 12/600 black MP's (12/600 = 2%).And like somebody said, there is a working class Scot from a poor background as prime minister, which is actually harder to go and achieve something from than being a mixed race man born into a priviliged life like Barack Obama

lol how did u figure this ? given that he has been about since b4 scotland kinda broke away and was a labour disciple from uni i think ure shooting blanks...i will let you have the working class thing but i still think alot of it is hype to make him seem more like the 'people' which he is fully entitled to btw

[STRIPEZ]

they'll be an asian Prime Minister before there's a black one.

yh dats true

Is it though? I reckon the British public as a whole would sooner accept a black PM then an Asian one.

a black pm before an asian one may look better (no race war), but asians would be more likely qualified and experiencedcant have race talk without stepping on a few toes tbh

loool i hate these talks here! talking like blacks are inferior to asians academically. There is no reason at all why "asians would be more likely qualified and experienced" because anyone going for that job would have to be top notch to stand a good chance

[misst]

David Lammy for Prime Minister!

[STRIPEZ]

Its gonna take a good few generations

[bladerunner]

Don't care cos it's only gonna be some middle class African Brit with a name like Kwaki Jones.

[hhhhhhh8]

they'll be an asian Prime Minister before there's a black one.

yh dats true

Is it though? I reckon the British public as a whole would sooner accept a black PM then an Asian one.

a black pm before an asian one may look better (no race war), but asians would be more likely qualified and experiencedcant have race talk without stepping on a few toes tbh

loool i hate these talks here! talking like blacks are inferior to asians academically. There is no reason at all why "asians would be more likely qualified and experienced" because anyone going for that job would have to be top notch to stand a good chance

I was going to say this but couldn't be bothered. Both members of each race would have to be tremendously gifted to get anywhere near the possibility of being PM.

[streets.]

Don't care cos it's only gonna be some middle class African Brit with a name like Kwaki Jones.

Or shaun bailey

[neeko]

David Lammy for Prime Minister!

[Numero001]

Are any of you really qualified to be making these broad generalisations about what politicians or the middle/upper classes or white people in general think about ethnic minorities in politics?Plus black people only make up 2.5% of the UK population so I don't know why you would expect to have any more than 12/600 black MP's (12/600 = 2%).And like somebody said, there is a working class Scot from a poor background as prime minister, which is actually harder to go and achieve something from than being a mixed race man born into a priviliged life like Barack Obama

The rest of what you said is valid. The bold, however, is your normal bullshit. How do you always manage to bring in some white man "struggle"? Surprisingly, its not about some Irishman.

Gordon Brown was born in Govan, Glasgow, Scotland.[12] His father was John Ebenezer Brown (1914–1998), a minister of the Church of Scotland and a strong influence on Gordon.[13] His mother Jessie Elizabeth Souter, known as Bunty, died in 2004 aged 86.[14] She was the daughter of John Souter, a timber merchant.[15] Gordon was brought up with his brothers John and Andrew Brown in a manse in Kirkcaldy — the largest town in Fife, Scotland across the Firth of Forth from Edinburgh.[16] In common with many other notable Scots, he is therefore often referred to as a "son of the manse". Brown was educated first at Kirkcaldy West Primary School where he was selected for an experimental fast stream education programme, which took him two years early to Kirkcaldy High School for an academic hothouse education taught in separate classes.[17] At age 16 he wrote that he loathed and resented this "ludicrous" experiment on young lives

Doesnt sound that bad or poor

[NO SUNSHINE]

Yes but look at Obama's childhood compared to that. He is from a wealthy family etc.Whatever anyway, that was just a point I added on at the end (hence the edit), my main point was that a lot of people in this thread are talking a lot of sh*t about race in politics that is either very biased-sounding or just way off the mark.I.e. the title refers to "only" 12/600 MP's being bethnic minorities, when really that's not a completely disproportionate figure. So really, the thread is almost invalid by default.Edit, I'm not saying racism doesn't exist in the UK.

[Benjamin Disraeli]

I will be completely honest with you now.Britain>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>America - in terms of politics, in terms of law and in terms of multiculturalism. I have a big problem, and that problem is RACIAL BIGOTS that seem to want everything ONE colour. In particular those that keep hinting and calling for black Prime Ministers etc.I think that if there is to be a black Prime Minister one day, it should not be like this Obama race where people have voted a certain way because of skin colour. It should be because someone has applied for the post and won. That person's skin colour should not have any part in the position of a job.It's quite contradicting really because there is all this talk of people being employed based on their skills and not because of skin colour and now, where there is a high position, it is important for people to want that person to be a particular skin colour.Why is it that a lot black people cry out about these things? What's wrong with a Asian Prime Minister?Why does everything have to be black to make things equal?TRUE equality is when people say "I don't give a sh*t what colour the Prime Minister is as long as he/she is good in his/her role".I actually backed McCain because of all the hype of electing someone due to skin colour. That is not equal.As for this country being more broken and more racist than America? LMFAO that is just jokes. We are far more integrated and accepting on all people of all nationalities and cultures.If there are not many black people in parliament, who's fault is that? You as a person have the right just as any one else to join a party, run for MP and earn your place in the cabinet.Who's fault is it?I come from nothing and I am heading for Parliament. It's not because I am white that I will hopefully get this role. It's because I don't smoke drugs, I don't hang in gangs, I get on with my education and I work tirelessly and give up my time to help people in my borough.Anyone can do it.It was the same with Obama. He didn't TALK THE TALK, he WALKED THE WALK. All this TALK will lead to no WALKING tbh.

dude get real...if u ddnt go to eton/oxford/cambridge or were a member of the bullingdon etc ...ure not goin nowhere near higher level politics...refer back to my first post...this is a class issue...i reckon the fact that u as a white male(im assuming) hasnt got half a chance of becoming PM if u dnt come from a certain class and havnt been to certain schools is more of a problem than the whole black PM thing.first things first people..address the bigger picture not the little side issues..Peace

Please. Do not brush off your negativity on to me. It has nothing to do with class, race and whatever else you want to use in order to spread your own insecurities with life.I can make it and I know I will. Yes, I come from working class background and no I didn't go Cambridge and was not a member of the Bullingdon.. BUT remember this... I do not have to impress rich people or higher tiered politicians. They are a minority. The larger electorate are people like you and me and I know that if I work hard enough in my borough and serve the people, I can get there and it is the same for anyone else.

AND LET ME ALSO ADD...Sure, it may be slightly easier for someone that did go Cambridge because they are surrounded by positive people and are encouraged to learn.They got no one holding them back.People like you and me, we come from boroughs where the next man sitting next to you wants to hold you back and stop you from succeeding.This makes things harder for us, but certainly not impossible.If you ignore the negativity and persevere in your chosen field, YOU CAN MAKE IT!

dnt be so f*ckin stooopid young man...you need to get more familiar with the environment you are trying to get into..and for the record the heirachy exists mostly in the labour party but even the conservatives have a machine working behind closed doors and that is the reason why more qualified/capable people were brushed to the side while Cameron who had never done a single days political work was brought in...if u feel u r going to make it then fair play to you but dnt tell me im tryna rub off any type of negativity on you when im merely stating the obvious...there is too many sociological FACTS for you to even start trying to dispute anything i have said.You representing your 'burough' means nothing in the bigger political scheme of things...come back to me when ure in the house of commons making real moves not none of this local council rubbish that doesnt change the price of bread.Good luck btw

LOL @ calling me 'young man' when I am probably much older than you. I am very familiar with my environs, yet it seems that you are not. You say that the hierarchy exists primarily in the Labour party but it is the Labour party that have always worked closer with the Trade Unions, and people within the Unions were and are sponsored to go to University consequently to whom many now many Labour MPs. I think that it is wrong to suggest that David Cameron has never done a days political work. Do you think that a party would elect a man with no experience whatsoever? Sure, it can be said that he is NOT the wisest or MOST experienced Conservative, but that does not mean he has not worked tirelessly for his constituents and it does not mean that the guy has never worked hard to get somewhere. I suggest you read about people before you comment on them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_CameronIt's pretty much the same for Nick Clegg and also pretty much the same for Barack Obama. Do you think that they were both the most qualified for their positions? eh?What seems to be obvious to you is merely the smaller picture because you fail to believe that anything else is possible. I tell you what, when I make it in to the cabinet one day, you come and see me. And if for some reason I don't make it there, it will not be because there were barriers in my way or because people stopped me. It will be because I chose my direction and decided for something else.AND LASTLY..This is the problem with you and people like you. You think that you need the MAIN role to make serious changes. You think you need to be the President of the United States or the Prime Minister of Britain to impose change. Governance is about steering and believe you me, the price on a loaf of bread is not determined by one person alone. You do not need to hold the top seat to influence or make law. You just have to be smart, do your research, make your points and gain majority support. We are not a dictatorship and maybe when a the smaller black population stop going on about holding the top seat and how important it is for that person to be black, things might actually happen.You don't understand the importance of local government, therefore you cannot fathom the importance of Parliament.

[Numero001]

Yes but look at Obama's childhood compared to that. He is from a wealthy family etc.Whatever anyway, that was just a point I added on at the end (hence the edit), my main point was that a lot of people in this thread are talking a lot of sh*t about race in politics that is either very biased-sounding or just way off the mark.I.e. the title refers to "only" 12/600 MP's being bethnic minorities, when really that's not a completely disproportionate figure. So really, the thread is almost invalid by default.Edit, I'm not saying racism doesn't exist in the UK.

So basically, you trying to bring the white struggle into everything backfired on your claart so youre tryna wave white flag?I personally dont think it is fair to speak about black prime minister cos there are so many factors stopping it. Race and class are two major ones. My question is why arent there more black MPs? Is it because they have been discriminated against or is it a job black's arent interested in? Maybe if it was narrower like MPs in London or people in high places within borough councils then maybe, but black PM is out of the question for now. Only way that would happen is if someone got fast-tracked and they tried to make a black man run. We followed America when they made the fat bloke win American Idol, we followed with the whale a.k.a Michelle "Big" McManus

[Michel Kane]

I will be completely honest with you now.Britain>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>America - in terms of politics, in terms of law and in terms of multiculturalism. I have a big problem, and that problem is RACIAL BIGOTS that seem to want everything ONE colour. In particular those that keep hinting and calling for black Prime Ministers etc.I think that if there is to be a black Prime Minister one day, it should not be like this Obama race where people have voted a certain way because of skin colour. It should be because someone has applied for the post and won. That person's skin colour should not have any part in the position of a job.It's quite contradicting really because there is all this talk of people being employed based on their skills and not because of skin colour and now, where there is a high position, it is important for people to want that person to be a particular skin colour.Why is it that a lot black people cry out about these things? What's wrong with a Asian Prime Minister?Why does everything have to be black to make things equal?TRUE equality is when people say "I don't give a sh*t what colour the Prime Minister is as long as he/she is good in his/her role".I actually backed McCain because of all the hype of electing someone due to skin colour. That is not equal.As for this country being more broken and more racist than America? LMFAO that is just jokes. We are far more integrated and accepting on all people of all nationalities and cultures.If there are not many black people in parliament, who's fault is that? You as a person have the right just as any one else to join a party, run for MP and earn your place in the cabinet.Who's fault is it?I come from nothing and I am heading for Parliament. It's not because I am white that I will hopefully get this role. It's because I don't smoke drugs, I don't hang in gangs, I get on with my education and I work tirelessly and give up my time to help people in my borough.Anyone can do it.It was the same with Obama. He didn't TALK THE TALK, he WALKED THE WALK. All this TALK will lead to no WALKING tbh.

dude get real...if u ddnt go to eton/oxford/cambridge or were a member of the bullingdon etc ...ure not goin nowhere near higher level politics...refer back to my first post...this is a class issue...i reckon the fact that u as a white male(im assuming) hasnt got half a chance of becoming PM if u dnt come from a certain class and havnt been to certain schools is more of a problem than the whole black PM thing.first things first people..address the bigger picture not the little side issues..Peace

Please. Do not brush off your negativity on to me. It has nothing to do with class, race and whatever else you want to use in order to spread your own insecurities with life.I can make it and I know I will. Yes, I come from working class background and no I didn't go Cambridge and was not a member of the Bullingdon.. BUT remember this... I do not have to impress rich people or higher tiered politicians. They are a minority. The larger electorate are people like you and me and I know that if I work hard enough in my borough and serve the people, I can get there and it is the same for anyone else.

AND LET ME ALSO ADD...Sure, it may be slightly easier for someone that did go Cambridge because they are surrounded by positive people and are encouraged to learn.They got no one holding them back.People like you and me, we come from boroughs where the next man sitting next to you wants to hold you back and stop you from succeeding.This makes things harder for us, but certainly not impossible.If you ignore the negativity and persevere in your chosen field, YOU CAN MAKE IT!

dnt be so f*ckin stooopid young man...you need to get more familiar with the environment you are trying to get into..and for the record the heirachy exists mostly in the labour party but even the conservatives have a machine working behind closed doors and that is the reason why more qualified/capable people were brushed to the side while Cameron who had never done a single days political work was brought in...if u feel u r going to make it then fair play to you but dnt tell me im tryna rub off any type of negativity on you when im merely stating the obvious...there is too many sociological FACTS for you to even start trying to dispute anything i have said.You representing your 'burough' means nothing in the bigger political scheme of things...come back to me when ure in the house of commons making real moves not none of this local council rubbish that doesnt change the price of bread.Good luck btw

LOL @ calling me 'young man' when I am probably much older than you. I am very familiar with my environs, yet it seems that you are not. You say that the hierarchy exists primarily in the Labour party but it is the Labour party that have always worked closer with the Trade Unions, and people within the Unions were and are sponsored to go to University consequently to whom many now many Labour MPs. I think that it is wrong to suggest that David Cameron has never done a days political work. Do you think that a party would elect a man with no experience whatsoever? Sure, it can be said that he is NOT the wisest or MOST experienced Conservative, but that does not mean he has not worked tirelessly for his constituents and it does not mean that the guy has never worked hard to get somewhere. I suggest you read about people before you comment on them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_CameronIt's pretty much the same for Nick Clegg and also pretty much the same for Barack Obama. Do you think that they were both the most qualified for their positions? eh?What seems to be obvious to you is merely the smaller picture because you fail to believe that anything else is possible. I tell you what, when I make it in to the cabinet one day, you come and see me. And if for some reason I don't make it there, it will not be because there were barriers in my way or because people stopped me. It will be because I chose my direction and decided for something else.AND LASTLY..This is the problem with you and people like you. You think that you need the MAIN role to make serious changes. You think you need to be the President of the United States or the Prime Minister of Britain to impose change. Governance is about steering and believe you me, the price on a loaf of bread is not determined by one person alone. You do not need to hold the top seat to influence or make law. You just have to be smart, do your research, make your points and gain majority support. We are not a dictatorship and maybe when a the smaller black population stop going on about holding the top seat and how important it is for that person to be black, things might actually happen.You don't understand the importance of local government, therefore you cannot fathom the importance of Parliament.

Real f*ckin' talk TBH

[Benjamin Disraeli]

Are any of you really qualified to be making these broad generalisations about what politicians or the middle/upper classes or white people in general think about ethnic minorities in politics?Plus black people only make up 2.5% of the UK population so I don't know why you would expect to have any more than 12/600 black MP's (12/600 = 2%).And like somebody said, there is a working class Scot from a poor background as prime minister, which is actually harder to go and achieve something from than being a mixed race man born into a priviliged life like Barack Obama

I love your post. Because one day, I am going to achieve my dreams. And when I do, I don't want to hear people say 'it's because he is white that he got there'. I come from the same communities and believe you me, I feel the same barriers hitting my head. But I am determined and am working hard to get where I am going and that shouldn't be knocked.The 2.5% black people here want to make up 100% of all top positions.Power hungry me thinks. People need to realise that you do not need the top seat to make change. If you cannot help your own family, your own communities, then how are you owed the right to help the country?Brilliant post NO SUNSHINE.

[Mr Q]

Brown is prime minister by default, so surely that makes everything invalid as we didnt actually vote him in. As for the rest of the sh*t, people stay fighting its pointless when no-one is taking on anyone elses views.

[Benjamin Disraeli]

Don't care cos it's only gonna be some middle class African Brit with a name like Kwaki Jones.

Or shaun bailey

Just because he has Conservative views and because he might appear to be middle class now does not mean that he has always been that.Shaun Bailey is a good man and yet again we are back here. Where, if the person is not wearing a Ne Era and a tracksuit bussing grime lyrics, then he is not good enough to represent the black community on a whole.

[Benjamin Disraeli]

Brown is prime minister by default, so surely that makes everything invalid as we didnt actually vote him in. As for the rest of the sh*t, people stay fighting its pointless when no-one is taking on anyone elses views.

Not exactly. He does have a mandate. He was elected MP by his constituents and was then ratified by his peers to hold the top seat and this was then reapplied at the National conference last year and he will probably gain support again this year.

[Mr Q]

Last time i checked Ashman, New Era caps and tracksuit bottoms are not a pre-requsite of being black and i dont see how anyone has said that.

[VENI VIDI VICI]

Are any of you really qualified to be making these broad generalisations about what politicians or the middle/upper classes or white people in general think about ethnic minorities in politics?Plus black people only make up 2.5% of the UK population so I don't know why you would expect to have any more than 12/600 black MP's (12/600 = 2%).And like somebody said, there is a working class Scot from a poor background as prime minister, which is actually harder to go and achieve something from than being a mixed race man born into a priviliged life like Barack Obama

YOU DUMB c*nt!VOTERS DIDN'T ELECTED HIS CLART!!!TONY LEFT, HE GOT THE JOB FFS