lfc The Official Liverpool FC Thread

[Flojo]

smfh

Murks you got your cloakroom ticket?

the disco is definitely done.

[LS]

Murko >

[Rsonist]

LMAO

[Lenny]

Lmfao

[anelka]

Benitez left Roy to work with garbage

The defensive options are the strongest in the squad, Fulham have better attacking options and more fluidity to their attacking play

That team is not top 6 material, Roy is not a magician

Benitez was a good manager in Europe, hes was neva gona win the league at Lpool and will ruin Inter this season watch

[The Infamous]

WASTEMAN

[MEIRELES.]

Lahi at some point you was saying Lucas was better than Alonso

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I was gassed. What he said to the media enraged me. Then I saw the light when I saw the story of him admitting being forced out by Rafa and our APPALLING creative performances in the middle a few months after he left (still an ongoing problem which should have been sorted by the guy who forced him away from this great club)

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Benitez left Roy to work with garbage

[Michel Kane]

With the resources that Hodgson has, he should be doing better.

But this stoic, rigid 'attacking' style Liverpool, has been there before Hodgson, that's still Benitez's influence. That will take time to adjust.

[anelka]

With the resources that Hodgson has, he should be doing better.

Hes played 6 games in the league.. 3 of those games wer against City, Utd & Arsenal

Hes got a top keeper n good defence, 1 sick midfielder & a sick striker, Cole & Meireles are good signings who will do well, not overly great resources tbh

Judge him after 15/20 league games

Wigan on their day (who actually beat Liverpool last season) are more pleasing on the eye, keep the ball better and more dynamic than Lpool.. this is how behind they actually are

[TF S4DK]

I know this much, Benetiz's record at Inter will be better than Hodgson's, as will his record at Liverpool...

[Michel Kane]

With the resources that Hodgson has, he should be doing better.

Hes played 6 games in the league.. 3 of those games wer against City, Utd & Arsenal

Hes got a top keeper n good defence, 1 sick midfielder & a sick striker, Cole & Meireles are good signings who will do well, not overly great resources tbh

Judge him after 15/20 league games

Wigan on their day (who actually beat Liverpool last season) are more pleasing on the eye, keep the ball better and more dynamic than Lpool.. this is how behind they actually are

I understand that the league is the priority but let's not just ignore the league cup performance & those in Europe because they are indicative of what's happening in the league too.

[MEIRELES.]

I know this much, Benetiz's record at Inter will be better than Hodgson's, as will his record at Liverpool...

NO sh*t EINSTEIN

Obviously if you had a team READY MADE for you to take over with the help of the best manager in the world from previous seasons. He doesn't even need to improve the squad, Rafa has a team that can challenge and win every honour.

The team Rafa left for Hodgson is much much worse in strength, depth and quality when comparing both teams. This also applies to Liverpools previous squads over the past 2-3 years.

TBH I dont think I've never felt this bad about our squad as a collective. We can only improve, there is no lower than this.

[TF S4DK]

Liverpool FC of 2-3 years ago is much worse than Liverpool FC today & that is not Rafa Benetiz's fault.

Like I said at the moment Liverpool are a club going nowhere.

[anelka]

With the resources that Hodgson has, he should be doing better.

Hes played 6 games in the league.. 3 of those games wer against City, Utd & Arsenal

Hes got a top keeper n good defence, 1 sick midfielder & a sick striker, Cole & Meireles are good signings who will do well, not overly great resources tbh

Judge him after 15/20 league games

Wigan on their day (who actually beat Liverpool last season) are more pleasing on the eye, keep the ball better and more dynamic than Lpool.. this is how behind they actually are

I understand that the league is the priority but let's not just ignore the league cup performance & those in Europe because they are indicative of what's happening in the league too.

He shouda tried 2 win the League Cup, ill give u that, twas a nonsense playing the side he did but Rafa had his fair share of Cup blunders... Burnley away, Barnsley at home, Reading at home..

The Europa League & Champions league gets serious in the knock out stages, if they get through no1 cares, look at Fergie playing a reserve side against Rangers.. u do what u do to qualify

[MEIRELES.]

Ay? Your slyly trying to bring in the ownership and board room problems into this discussion

I'm talking squads

Rafa left us with the worst squad over the past 2-3 years

(before any transfers, Masch was a gonna since the start of last season so he cant be included in what was left by Rafa)

Anyway, f*ck all this Rafa talk, dont wanna see his name in here again :arrow:

[Flojo]

Benitez left Roy to work with garbage

The defensive options are the strongest in the squad, Fulham have better attacking options and more fluidity to their attacking play

That team is not top 6 material, Roy is not a magician

Benitez was a good manager in Europe, hes was neva gona win the league at Lpool and will ruin Inter this season watch

Seriously just f*ck off with this sh*t

You can't have it both ways either Rafa underachieved last season because the squad was better than a 7th place finish or the squad wasn't good enough and a 7th place finish was about right so he was wrongly sacked.

If the defensive options are better why are we conceding so much?

Fulham had better options than Gerrard, Torres, Mereiles, Joe Cole, Aquilani and Maxi?

You're successfully winding me up with your Talksport inspired drivel.

[anelka]

The point is ur messiah was in charge for the start of the decline, he oversaw it with poor signings, poor tactics, poor man management & poor decisions

He turned them into this pathetic excuse of a team, its Roy's job to get them back up to speed, which will take longer than 6 games

Mate id take Gera, Duff, Davies, Dempsey, Murhpy & Greening as a supporting cast for Zamora, AJ, Dembele & Kamara.. Fulham have bare attacking options ulot have Torres as ur sole striking option and Gerrard from midfield with Kuyt chippin in here n there.. Mereiles, Joe Cole, Aquilani and Maxi have neva been known for getting goals from midfield (i dnt even need 2 check their goal-scoring stats)

Its not just the goals, Fulham have much more energy about the park, they are more positive they can go direct to Zamora or play through midfield, they have much more vibrancy to ther play.. the damage was done before Roy made the move

[TF S4DK]

What are you on? Rafa didnt sell Mascherano.

Of course your ownership is to blame, how can it not be? When you have no money, no direction and they been lying to you for years, where's your f*ck*ng new stadium? Ownership is the reason Rafa fully lost his marbles last season. Man was sacrifing and looking at the wrong calibre of player for no specfic reason... Robbie Keane. Lol.

[TF S4DK]

Hodgson didnt sign Dembele and I'd rather have Joe Cole, Aquilani, Gerrard and Torres than Gera, Duff, Davies, Dempsey, Murhpy & Greening, Zamora, AJ, & Kamara.

[Black.]

I know this much, Benetiz's record at Inter will be better than Hodgson's, as will his record at Liverpool...

NO sh*t EINSTEIN

Obviously if you had a team READY MADE for you to take over with the help of the best manager in the world from previous seasons. He doesn't even need to improve the squad, Rafa has a team that can challenge and win every honour.

The team Rafa left for Hodgson is much much worse in strength, depth and quality when comparing both teams. This also applies to Liverpools previous squads over the past 2-3 years.

TBH I dont think I've never felt this bad about our squad as a collective. We can only improve, there is no lower than this.

[MEIRELES.]

What are you on? Rafa didnt sell Mascherano.

Who said Rafa sold Masch? In Masch's head he was gone a year ago and I'm pretty certain Rafa knew about it

So if Rafa had continued Masch would have stayed? Give me a break.

"They'd promised me [a move] for a whole year and they never fulfilled their promise.

Messi even publicly came out and said Maschs family was not settled in England to the point where Masch would go home to see his wife cry because of it.

[Flojo]

The point is ur messiah was in charge for the start of the decline, he oversaw it with poor signings, poor tactics, poor man management & poor decisions

He turned them into this pathetic excuse of a team, its Roy's job to get them back up to speed, which will take longer than 6 games

Mate id take Gera, Duff, Davies, Dempsey, Murhpy & Greening as a supporting cast for Zamora, AJ, Dembele & Kamara.. Fulham have bare attacking options ulot have Torres as ur sole striking option and Gerrard from midfield with Kuyt chippin in here n there.. Mereiles, Joe Cole, Aquilani and Maxi have neva been known for getting goals from midfield (i dnt even need 2 check their goal-scoring stats)

Its not just the goals, Fulham have much more energy about the park, they are more positive they can go direct to Zamora or play through midfield, they have much more vibrancy to ther play.. the damage was done before Roy made the move

What are you talking about seriously?

Fulham have scored 78 goals (39 both times) in their past two seasons, we got 77 in one of those seasons for some perspective. Fulham have never been about free flowing attacking football but don't take my word for it.

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I think we play a bit more open football than last year - it's good to play in a team like that," said Gera. "There are a lot of one-against-one situations during games and the players can do the right things in these situations.

"Players have more freedom to go forward and do what they can for the team, which is good."

Zoltan Gera

"Pressing teams a little bit higher up the pitch, trying to be a bit more dynamic, allowing one or two players from deeper positions to get forward more which wasn't really Roy's philosophy, he's a little bit more cautious"

Danny Murphy on Hughes' tactics

"Hughes is a very different boss to Roy, who was more interested in looking at the shape of the team and wanted us to sit back and defend and stay in our positions and then break forward."

d*ckson Etuhu

'

There is no fault with Roy Hodgson, he did really well here, but training with Hughes is better - you do more with the ball. You do more running with the ball and you are trying to score.'

Diamansy Kamara

"There is no element of surprise to Liverpool's current style of play. It's all about passing the ball, but without any clear idea behind it....Players such as Gerrard and Torres are unable to shine in this formation and Roy Hodgson is the one to blame for this.

His preferred tactics suit a club like Fulham, but he's not much into attacking football and creative players. I expect Gerrard and Torres to continue suffering under Hodgson."

Lars Bohinen

[Flojo]

With the resources that Hodgson has, he should be doing better.

But this stoic, rigid 'attacking' style Liverpool, has been there before Hodgson, that's still Benitez's influence. That will take time to adjust.

That's a fair analysis of the situation apart from no team Hodgson has ever managed has been about attacking football so this change you talk of is never going to happen.

Last season was a transition after losing Alonso and towards the end of the season I was encouraged by Aquilani and confident that this season we would have performed much better with him in the side and being the link between defence and attack. everyone forgets it was only 2 years ago we were putting 4-5 goals past teams regularly.

[anelka]

If u watch Fulham and Liverpool its evident what team have more energy about the park, they are more positive they can go direct to Zamora or play through midfield, they have much more vibrancy to their play.. i neva said they wer a free flowing attacking side but a team with energy and runners from midfield

I have been watching Fulham since Roy took over, they get more men up and in and around the front man (Zamora), they have more front runners than ulot in the past season n this season. He neva played with 2 holding midfielders at Fulham..

Its common knowledge Roy likes to keep a shape and does alot of work with shape, at lower teams they need betta discipline 2 make up for their lack of talent, its the same at Liverpool now as u do not have a great squad he will have 2do more work with ur shape lol

Every pro doesnt like shape work, do u even know what it entails, so the quotes are a pinch of salt tbh

[anelka]

Fulham have scored 78 goals (39 both times) in their past two seasons, we got 77 in one of those seasons for some perspective. Fulham have never been about free flowing attacking football but don't take my word for it.

"

I think we play a bit more open football than last year - it's good to play in a team like that," said Gera. "There are a lot of one-against-one situations during games and the players can do the right things in these situations.

"Players have more freedom to go forward and do what they can for the team, which is good."

Zoltan Gera = A kinda luxury player at Fulham's level he can be a match winner or anonymous, if the team play with more freedom it suits his personal game but maybe not the team..

"Pressing teams a little bit higher up the pitch, trying to be a bit more dynamic, allowing one or two players from deeper positions to get forward more which wasn't really Roy's philosophy, he's a little bit more cautious"

Danny Murphy on Hughes' tactics = Murphy talking about his pal Etuhu getting more license 2 push forward, I see Hodgson's point avbout making d*ckson sit, Murphy aint got da legs to track runners, u want Murphy on the ball as he has the quality n Etuhu doing the donkey work..

"Hughes is a very different boss to Roy, who was more interested in looking at the shape of the team and wanted us to sit back and defend and stay in our positions and then break forward."

d*ckson Etuhu = gassedf of his goal against Blackpool, pleased he can break from midfield, hes got more licsense to get forward now, again lets wait and see how it works out

'

There is no fault with Roy Hodgson, he did really well here, but training with Hughes is better - you do more with the ball. You do more running with the ball and you are trying to score.'

Diamansy Kamara = every pro would rather do ball work in training but managers know what they are doing

"There is no element of surprise to Liverpool's current style of play. It's all about passing the ball, but without any clear idea behind it....Players such as Gerrard and Torres are unable to shine in this formation and Roy Hodgson is the one to blame for this.

His preferred tactics suit a club like Fulham, but he's not much into attacking football and creative players. I expect Gerrard and Torres to continue suffering under Hodgson."

Lars Bohinen = I read the whole interview, he said what I said about the GK, defence & Stevie and Torres being the only positives in a poor squad but then said Carra aint a leader??

6 league games..