ag. Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 calisthenics in the park>>>>> feel to not even go to a gym again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time_bomb Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 what supplements is everyone taking other than protein shakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Cake Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Omega 3+6+9 Vitamin C 1000mg Glucasmine sulphate 1300mg Multi vitamin Sci-tec Power3d 2.0 pre workout Gold standard whey Pretty much all of my supplements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Multi Vitamins Omega fish oil Mutant Mass Weight Gainer Gold standard casein Animal M-Stak Mutant creatine (Creakong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Reds Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONELOVE Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Water  ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YFSD Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Multi Vitamins Omega fish oil Mutant Mass Weight Gainer Gold standard casein Animal M-Stak Mutant creatine (Creakong) How are you finding mutant mass? No bcaa's? I'm thinking about getting some along with creatine soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Ferguson Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Man are taking a whole bunch of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YFSD Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Man are taking a whole bunch of stuff. Great observation, keep it up kiddo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Multi Vitamins Omega fish oil Mutant Mass Weight Gainer Gold standard casein Animal M-Stak Mutant creatine (Creakong) How are you finding mutant mass? No bcaa's? I'm thinking about getting some along with creatine soon. Yeah mutant mass is great, put on like 5lbs in three weeks. Taste is good which helps, heavy on the stomach though so i don't fuck with 4 scoops, 2 in the morning and 3 post workout. Mutant has BCAA's already in the formula so don't need to buy them separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Ferguson Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014  Man are taking a whole bunch of stuff. Great observation, keep it up kiddo  I.e. too much  I have never understood a need to do that much stuff unless you're competing.  To each his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 For me, supps are about gaining better productivity, allowing me to workout more effectively and maximizing my results.  If I’m going to the gym I want to get the maximum out of the time spent there.  I don’t do things heart half heartedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Multi Vitamins Omega fish oil Mutant Mass Weight Gainer Gold standard casein Animal M-Stak Mutant creatine (Creakong)  Bruv that's heinous  You consume all that in a day + ...5 meals? + water?  I'm in and out of the toilet for a piss every two minutes currently  I don't think I actually work anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 eating 5 times a day + 2 weight gainer shakes (1050 cals), 1 casein  and drink about 4/5 litres of waters day.  When I'm bulking I tend to hold the water in better so toilet breaks aren't too frequent. At my old job though, I remember when I upped my water consumption properly for the first time...Manager pulled me aside and asked if I was having personal problems as I was never at my desk.  Body gets used to holding more water in general the more you drink it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YFSD Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Heero you should contribute more, would be interesting to hear you methods/opinions/macros etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Cake Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I would be careful with them weight gainers man. I was on BSN True Mass time ago, that shit fucked me up differently. Best way is to build weight up slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Cake Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Bent over barbell rows 100kg for 3 sets today. I remember I was struggling with this a week ago because of my grip. That feeling of breaking through the wall >>>>>>>>> It's fucking addictive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Peng Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Glutamine Creatine BCAAs Multi vitamin Sometimes dextrose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Heero you should contribute more, would be interesting to hear you methods/opinions/macros etc Will try and do a write up soon on my routines, and methods etc. I hate talking about it really as i'm not where i wanna be, and definitely not a guru so i almost feel like i have no right giving out tips etc I would be careful with them weight gainers man. I was on BSN True Mass time ago, that shit fucked me up differently. Best way is to build weight up slowly. What happened fam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Ferguson Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 What are your macros, out of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 450 Carbs 200 Protien 60 Fat  Those are all slightly over what they should be, but being a Ectomorph I have to take it to the extreme to put on mass. I won't gain fat as my metabolism is too fast, but even if i do I'll just lower the carb intake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I would be careful with them weight gainers man. I was on BSN True Mass time ago, that sh*t f*cked me up differently. Best way is to build weight up slowly. Â How it fuck you up? was considering copping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Cake Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Basically... First few weeks was fine, I was having it with milk as well so overall about 700 calories with 60g protein and 90g carb. Twice a day. Then after 3 weeks started noticing my stomach getting mashed. I mean having shit 4 times a day, and each time shitting my guts out. Ignored it for a bit and started noticing I couldn't even lift like I used to before when I was just on whey protein. I mean proper slacking. I think I was drinking it and all my nutrients were just coming out the other end. It got so bad that I started getting bad stomach pains all day long. I also have slight symptoms of IBS so I guess that added to it. But overall, my body completely rejected it, and I went back on Gold Standard Whey, and I could lift heavy again. Since then I haven't touched it. I guess it works for some people but all the bodybuilders tell me to gain weight slowly and gradually which I have been doing, and started training with a mate whos been training for 8 years, so my training sessions are fully intense. The gains I have been making recently are crazy. Beating personal records every week: this week, bent over barbell row 100kg (10 reps) and incline bench press 100kg (10 reps) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I started off drinking them with milk and I had a very similar experience to you (not as bad I must admit).I  Couldn’t always get them to digest properly, upset stomach etc etc  Switched from milk to water and never looked back. Not sure about you, but when I had them with milk I was having it with 500ml of milk at a time. Milk isn’t one of the easiest liquids to digest on it’s own so then when it’s mixed into a high calorie blend…well yeah, strong possibility of issues.  Water is naturally good for digestion so I think it really helps the shake settle in your stomach a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 So I've switched my routine up and gone back to isolated muscle training this week. For the last 3 months I have been doing using the push / pull / Legs routine (shout outs to flex again for this)  There were 2 reasons why I decided to change my training. The first was because I was becoming bored with doing isolated muscle training. The second was because I wanted to give my body a shock. Flex dropped his routines and said how great it had been working from him. I did a little reading up and decided to create a routine based on the principles. Also ectomoprhes benefits from training multiple muscle groups within one session.  So I trained over 4 days, 2 days push and 2 days pull    Monday - Push 1  Bench Press - 4 Sets ,8-12 Reps Squats - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps  Tricep Pull downs - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps Leg Press - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps  Arnold Press - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps Standing calf raises  Incline Bench Press - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps  Tuesday - Pull 1  Bent over rows - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps Deadlifts - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps  Barbell Curl - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps Front raises - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps  Stiff leg deads - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps Lats Pulldown - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps  Wednesday rest day   Thursday - Push 2  Military Press - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps Leg Extension - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps  Skull Crushers - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps ( try and switch this up weekly, one week bench skull crushers, then another standing skulls and the another week with dumbells) Standing Calf raises  Dumbell Shoulder Press - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps Leg press - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps  Dumbell chest press Incline cable flys  Friday - Pull 2  Pull Ups 3 sets till failure Leg Curl - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps  Concentration Curl - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps Dumbbell shrugs - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps  Dead Lifts - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps Lat Raises - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps   If I did train another day to make it 5, I would hit  Leg Press - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps Bench Press - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps Squats - 4 Sets, 8-12 Reps  And a few areas I wanted to sharpen up on.  The most enjoyable part of this training regime is the variety in each day, not just sitting around training 1 or two muscle groups. Also the gains training like this were very impressive + it improved general strength on the exercises I've struggled to break through on. Training like this also helps you train legs (which most people hate doing so never do). Breaking legs up throughout the week makes it much easier and more willing to train them.  So anyway i'm back to isolated groups again to shock my muscles and i'll probably stay on this till around March time, and switch back to push pull.  Currently i'm sitting at 77kg, 5ft 10, I've been bulking for the last month and a half with the supplements I detailed earlier. My diet has been on top form which has undoubtedly helped me make some decent gains.    4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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