FAO those who believe in climate change

[YGNB]

On an unrelated note.It's funny the way those that work the hardest in this country are being demonised for having lifestyles that they've f*ck*ng EARNT.

this is bullshit and i can see how people would assume you are a 'tory boy' by this statementbankers work the hardest? that would be an insult to a lot of peoplewhat about say...all the public servies? firemen, police, nurses, teachers, all work hardand they are paid way way less, but also play an important role in societyon top of thatpublic services are now being forced to operate on a reduced budget, coz the government have bailled out bankers who out of greed have been lending at irresponsible and reckless levels.

I think you'll find it's a lot, lot harder to be an investment banker than it is a nurse, fireman, policeman, or a teacher.It's the way the world works. To get to that stage, you have to work f*ck*ng hard. Harder than you can imagine.You're straying into a different argument here. We're not talking about contribution to society and morality. We're talking about being the best in your field, being rewarded for it, then being demonised for it.

Do you know any bankers?These guys ain't like the Peter Joneses and Ducan Banntynes of the world. You can't get there through hard work and brains alone.These guys parents sent them to the right schools and knew the right people, intelligence doesn't even come into it. Most are thick as f*ck. As for working hard, they're down the pub at 5.05 every day mate. I like when people from working class backgrounds make it good, but Britain is one the worst countries in the world in terms of social mobility. All because of the *poke, poke, wink wink* between the upper middle class.

[Thun]

Copenhagen update

[Guest luckstar]

libertine you are chattin sh*tbankers are highly intelligent ambitious people who will work harder than most to achieve their goalsmy cousin works at morgan stanley .. man was drivin 2 canary wharf at midnite 2 be there when the japanese market opennedpulling mental hours for the paycheck...end of the day you sound like a working cllass worthless excuse maker ... there are a ton of you cunts out there and it sickens medont cheapen the profesionals work ethic and intelligence.

[VENOM]

lol@ arguing with libertine. just as useless as arguing with wavesurfercompletely clueless abt almost anything non emo related.i dont see how a climate change debate has turned to arguing about bankersbut investment bankers are usually top of their class in Maths, engineering, physics, comp science, and other degrees that require high degree of analytical skills. they also use top notch software for the data they useso ur really quite dumb to rate investment banking as some any job for anyone.smooching about with potential investors who's guts you may hate to bits but u need to keep them happytaking them out to bars and around town, getting back home for late at night, back up again early into work for 8/9am next daytravelling at short notice to any country for the same type of routine is not a life of luxury. its just like law which although involves alot of handshaking and winking to get into inner circles doesnt mean its an easy jobthats why many of them leave it b4 they get to 40.

[Bardissimo]

real talklol @ the govt's kneejerk to the public's reaction as if bankers aint been getting them bonuses for yonks

[Thun]

These crooks are devious

Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after 'Danish text' leakDeveloping countries react furiously to leaked draft agreement that would hand more power to rich nations, sideline the UN's negotiating role and abandon the Kyoto protocolJohn Vidal in Copenhagen guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 8 December 2009 14.09 GMTThe UN Copenhagen climate talks are in disarray today after developing countries reacted furiously to leaked documents that show world leaders will next week be asked to sign an agreement that hands more power to rich countries and sidelines the UN's role in all future climate change negotiations.The document is also being interpreted by developing countries as setting unequal limits on per capita carbon emissions for developed and developing countries in 2050; meaning that people in rich countries would be permitted to emit nearly twice as much under the proposals.The so-called Danish text, a secret draft agreement worked on by a group of individuals known as "the circle of commitment" – but understood to include the UK, US and Denmark – has only been shown to a handful of countries since it was finalised this week.The agreement, leaked to the Guardian, is a departure from the Kyoto protocol's principle that rich nations, which have emitted the bulk of the CO2, should take on firm and binding commitments to reduce greenhouse gases, while poorer nations were not compelled to act. The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions.The document was described last night by one senior diplomat as "a very dangerous document for developing countries. It is a fundamental reworking of the UN balance of obligations. It is to be superimposed without discussion on the talks".A confidential analysis of the text by developing countries also seen by the Guardian shows deep unease over details of the text. In particular, it is understood to:• Force developing countries to agree to specific emission cuts and measures that were not part of the original UN agreement;• Divide poor countries further by creating a new category of developing countries called "the most vulnerable";• Weaken the UN's role in handling climate finance;• Not allow poor countries to emit more than 1.44 tonnes of carbon per person by 2050, while allowing rich countries to emit 2.67 tonnes.Developing countries that have seen the text are understood to be furious that it is being promoted by rich countries without their knowledge and without discussion in the negotiations."It is being done in secret. Clearly the intention is to get [barack] Obama and the leaders of other rich countries to muscle it through when they arrive next week. It effectively is the end of the UN process," said one diplomat, who asked to remain nameless.Antonio Hill, climate policy adviser for Oxfam International, said: "This is only a draft but it highlights the risk that when the big countries come together, the small ones get hurting. On every count the emission cuts need to be scaled up. It allows too many loopholes and does not suggest anything like the 40% cuts that science is saying is needed."Hill continued: "It proposes a green fund to be run by a board but the big risk is that it will run by the World Bank and the Global Environment Facility [a partnership of 10 agencies including the World Bank and the UN Environment Programme] and not the UN. That would be a step backwards, and it tries to put constraints on developing countries when none were negotiated in earlier UN climate talks."The text was intended by Denmark and rich countries to be a working framework, which would be adapted by countries over the next week. It is particularly inflammatory because it sidelines the UN negotiating process and suggests that rich countries are desperate for world leaders to have a text to work from when they arrive next week.Few numbers or figures are included in the text because these would be filled in later by world leaders. However, it seeks to hold temperature rises to 2C and mentions the sum of $10bn a year to help poor countries adapt to climate change from 2012-15.http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/08/copenhagen-climate-summit-disarray-danish-text

[The King]

Lol at the world bank controlling the funds.

[Guest WAVESURFER]

lol@ arguing with libertine. just as useless as arguing with wavesurfer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hpiwPXkbVc

[The Infamous]

f*ck*ng IDIOTSHow can you not BELIEVE in climate change?f*ck*ng tin foil hat wearing idiotstalking like they actually have evidence as wellTHE OZONE LAYER IS THINNING AS IS THE POLAR ICE CAPSScientific FACTWhat evidence do you lot have?

[Guest Triple XXX]

i think what theyre arguing about is weather its man made or natural

[The Infamous]

Thats even dumberLike they have lived a million years to know the fazes the planet goes throughI hate conspiracy theorists they are the worst type of human

[Thun]

f*ck*ng IDIOTSHow can you not BELIEVE in climate change?f*ck*ng tin foil hat wearing idiotstalking like they actually have evidence as wellTHE OZONE LAYER IS THINNING AS IS THE POLAR ICE CAPSScientific FACTWhat evidence do you lot have?

Look into climate gate how the scientists pushing the climate change agenda admit they were giving false data to support there scamYou have obviously believed all the false hype and the fraud that was pushed on you without looking at the overall pictureVenus and Mars are heating up like earth but you want to tell me its because of SUV's?I hate bootlickers who suck up anything they get fed by the government and dont ask questions because there shookThere are plenty of scientists not on the government pay roll that prove that climate change is a scam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs

[Da Luv Doc]

f*ck*ng IDIOTSHow can you not BELIEVE in climate change?f*ck*ng tin foil hat wearing idiotstalking like they actually have evidence as wellTHE OZONE LAYER IS THINNING AS IS THE POLAR ICE CAPSScientific FACTWhat evidence do you lot have?

Your an idiot.Your mind is closed, like say scientist haven't known co2 rises after temperature rising.Your the ignorant one, FROM WHEN NO GLOBAL WARMIST CAN SAY THEM EMAILS ARE FAKE, WHAT THE f*ck ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!?!Like say waste scientist who don't care about the facts are not favouring the government that fund their research on "climate change."Do you want to pay pointless tax that used fake science to implace them there in your life???AND YOU FOOL, IT IS NOT FACT THAT WE HUMANS CONTROL THE EARTHS CLIMATE!!!

[ChickenCottage]

I'm a sceptic myself but there's enough mounting scientific to suggest that humans are causing damage.We need to be fighting the real bullshit like organic food and recycling.

[Jefferson]

very good read.but i still dont understand why people are trying to deny what these scientists are sayingif you watched the vids that thun n punk posted its all so clear/that world climate treaty is f*cked still.

[Da Luv Doc]

Jefferson, I understand why they don't agree. It's due to the brainwashing we were told when we were young, mostly by primary school teachers who know f all and captain planet, who confused kids into thinking plants live on a pollutent that is co2 (it is not a pollutent, there is by far not enough of it in the atmosphere to be one).I believe a lot of things that happen in this world are due to humans, but we cannot be attributed to this.

[O.Man]

was going to come and post the Great Global Warming Swindlebut Thuns already done thatIT'S SO MUCH DEEPER THEN WHAT YOU THINK IT'S BEST YOU STAY STUPID

[O.Man]

ANYTHING CAN BE PROVENTHIS ROCK HAS NO TIGERS AROUND ITTHEREFORE THIS ROCK KEEPS TIGERS AWAYWANT TO BUY MY ROCK?BEAR TAX!!!BEAR TAXsimpsons already did it

[Thun]

PMSL at the Hitler youth

[Mr. Gayle]

f*ck*ng IDIOTSHow can you not BELIEVE in climate change?f*ck*ng tin foil hat wearing idiotstalking like they actually have evidence as wellTHE OZONE LAYER IS THINNING AS IS THE POLAR ICE CAPSScientific FACTWhat evidence do you lot have?

The polar ice caps have increased, surely wouldn't happen if it was so warm as we are led to believe

[Guest Triple XXX]

we may disagree on wether its caused by man or notbut surely we should reduce the co2 levels for our own healthi went cambridge in 06 n nearly died, couldnt breathe for sh*t the air was so f*ckednever been since

[Black Ant]

we may disagree on wether its caused by man or notbut surely we should reduce the co2 levels for our own healthi went cambridge in 06 n nearly died, couldnt breathe for sh*t the air was so f*ckednever been since

should of bought Perri-Air

[Guest Triple XXX]

lmfao

[Da Luv Doc]

we may disagree on wether its caused by man or notbut surely we should reduce the co2 levels for our own healthi went cambridge in 06 n nearly died, couldnt breathe for sh*t the air was so f*ckednever been since

That's not co2 g, don't let people brainwash you into thinking that.

[Da Luv Doc]

PMSL at the Hitler youth

LOLThey are the types of people who'll say make wind farms and dams, ignorant to the fact that they f*ck up animals eco system and can lead to the exstinction of animals.Baft people who don't THINK before they ACT.