djbmc Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 i dont like itthe rich mans wealth is his strong city, destruction of the poor is his povertyin the capitalist system there are too many people that have to suffer, for a minority to live goodits not fair and its not rightwhat would you propose we change it to then?giving everyone an equal opportunity to succeed would be nice. c/s mr. q, humans a too flawed to ever have a perfect socio-economic structure.some ppl would say that this is what capitalism has conditioned you to thinkjust sayingwot so capitalism has conditioned me to think that capitalism doesn't work? ok then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.Man Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 No that capitalism has conditioned you to think that humans are forever flawed due to their lack of consistency in moral and political stances, so as we are forever flawed we could just continue with capitalism seeing as it's doing the best for the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skenghis Khan Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 do not like.seems to me the whole thing is based on f*ck*ng over the next guy before he does u nh. sum fuct cold war type thinking.a model citizen in a capitalist regime is scared and hungry, which is why they bombard you with a never ending cycle of threats - communism, al quada, saddam, iran, and an infinite array of useless sh*t to squander ur P on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Q Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 I think capitalism has a lot to do with human flaws, but, as people we have been trying to f*ck each other over from the beginning of time. If only Eve didn't eat that blasted Apple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.Man Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 The apple is Knowledge, if she hadn't eaten it we would still be cavemen. We are our own gods so we must create our own Eden. We almos dere guyz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiKkoNen Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 i dont like itthe rich mans wealth is his strong city, destruction of the poor is his povertyin the capitalist system there are too many people that have to suffer, for a minority to live goodits not fair and its not right Uneducated and uninformed opinion. 'Too many people that have to suffer'?How did Communism work out for the USSR then? And don't even say their practices were skewed, because they actually came closest to making the concept work, but at the end of the day, humans will always be humans. Innovation/ Entrepreneurship et al.its not uneducated nor uninformed, i do live in this world u know, i am experiencing capitalismi can see whats going on, there are more people suffering than living good and if thats something u want to dispute, to be frank i wouldnt engage in such a stupid debatefurthermore, i never said f*ck all about communism so what are u talkin about?So what's the alternative to consumption? Distribution? What's distribution? Communism?Are you criticising a system without offering up a reasonable alternative? I see, you're one of them. Layman experts.So because you live in this world, you're an expert on Economic systems? You think there are more people suffering in the world than are living good? You blame that on Capitalism? No, if you want to talk about individual economies, we can. Case study, Zimbabwe; Dictatorship basically, application of holistic Communist values; acquiring of wealth from the rich, distributing it to the skill-less poor. Long story cut short, inflation/famine/disease et al. Bearing in mind, all this was an attempt to 'spread' the wealth.Examine Zimbabwe 20 years ago and contrast the past from its current state. You'll sh*t bricks.You don't know what you're talking about, stick to road talk. Kthxbaiyou were doing good until you mentioned zimbabwe. communism had nothing to do with zimbabwe's fall. , who said Communism had anything to do with Zimbabwe's fall? A certain principle of Communism did, and that is wealth distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurious Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 'get yours in thisCapitalistSociety'Then u decide what seeds u wanna start sowing, change starts with UBe aware tho, we are currently in a state of hyper-capitalismI blame it on intense glucose cosumption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafter Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 i dont like itthe rich mans wealth is his strong city, destruction of the poor is his povertyin the capitalist system there are too many people that have to suffer, for a minority to live goodits not fair and its not right Uneducated and uninformed opinion. 'Too many people that have to suffer'?How did Communism work out for the USSR then? And don't even say their practices were skewed, because they actually came closest to making the concept work, but at the end of the day, humans will always be humans. Innovation/ Entrepreneurship et al.its not uneducated nor uninformed, i do live in this world u know, i am experiencing capitalismi can see whats going on, there are more people suffering than living good and if thats something u want to dispute, to be frank i wouldnt engage in such a stupid debatefurthermore, i never said f*ck all about communism so what are u talkin about?So what's the alternative to consumption? Distribution? What's distribution? Communism?Are you criticising a system without offering up a reasonable alternative? I see, you're one of them. Layman experts.So because you live in this world, you're an expert on Economic systems? You think there are more people suffering in the world than are living good? You blame that on Capitalism? No, if you want to talk about individual economies, we can. Case study, Zimbabwe; Dictatorship basically, application of holistic Communist values; acquiring of wealth from the rich, distributing it to the skill-less poor. Long story cut short, inflation/famine/disease et al. Bearing in mind, all this was an attempt to 'spread' the wealth.Examine Zimbabwe 20 years ago and contrast the past from its current state. You'll sh*t bricks.You don't know what you're talking about, stick to road talk. Kthxbaii never claimed to be an expert i jus voiced my opinion, an people are tryin to jump down my throat, about so whats the alternativei live in a system, so i have a right to speak my opinion on it based on what i see an what i experiencedont talk to me about road talk, i dnt even kno who you are guymore people are suffering in this capitalist system than are living good, are u really gna dispute that?why keep bringin up communism, when we are talkin about capitalismits like a child being told to tie up his shoe lace, an hes like o but dave's shoelace is untiedwho cares about dave?ive expressed my opinion on one system, i havnt said what i think about communism or anything else, ive already said to another poster that i havnt seen another system that i think could work and i havnt yet thought of my ownchump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 i dont like itthe rich mans wealth is his strong city, destruction of the poor is his povertyin the capitalist system there are too many people that have to suffer, for a minority to live goodits not fair and its not rightwhat would you propose we change it to then?giving everyone an equal opportunity to succeed would be nice. c/s mr. q, humans a too flawed to ever have a perfect socio-economic structure.some ppl would say that this is what capitalism has conditioned you to thinkjust sayingwot so capitalism has conditioned me to think that capitalism doesn't work? ok then.nah hes saying that capitalism has conditioned us to think that its the best system for us because we are too flawed to exist in other systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Edgar Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Capitalism doesn't work everywherelook what happened to the soviet union when it collapse and everything got divided by the poor and rich areas which can still be seen today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstition Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Capitalism as free enterprise is the most efficient way of distributing resources. But its own logic extends to inevitably degrade human life and dignity in the process of maximising profits. It seems (to me) hugely necessary to temper its intrinsic destructive appetites, legislatively and culturally, but obviously that's very difficult.Communism has never been implemented IRL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risky Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 lmao WTF is dis all about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.Man Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Capitalism as free enterprise is the most efficient way of distributing resources. But its own logic extends to inevitably degrade human life and dignity in the process of maximising profits. It seems (to me) hugely necessary to temper its intrinsic destructive appetites, legislatively and culturally, but obviously that's very difficult.Communism has never been implemented IRLTHANK YOUNICE WORD-LINGS AGAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Esquilax Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 u watchin american dad?Yeah I was/Disney, McDonalds, Nike, Starbucks[Whitney Spears] GIMME MAOR GIMME GIMME MAOR [/shitney Beers] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermalt Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 i dont like it the rich mans wealth is his strong city, destruction of the poor is his poverty in the capitalist system there are too many people that have to suffer, for a minority to live good its not fair and its not right what would you propose we change it to then? giving everyone an equal opportunity to succeed would be nice. c/s mr. q, humans a too flawed to ever have a perfect socio-economic structure. with or without it people will never have an equal opportunity to 'succeed' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 f*ck this thread capitalism is cool just get ur money up real talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubby Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Socialism is the way forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashman Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 You like it? What do you like about it? What the f*ck don't you like about it? I like it How's 'bout you? I hate capitalism with a passion! People are just deluded. How can you be fighting for black rights (anti-slavery) and then going in a music video showing off your bling knowing you capitalised on someone's backside to get it? Capitalism is just filled with hypocrisy and generates a vast amount of inequalities world wide along with other things like poverty, wars, malnutrition, death etc. f*ck capitalism and anyone with a false conscious thinking they are gonna be the next Bill Gates - You're not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojo Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Systems are only as good as the people in them, whether right or wrong people don't want to be equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashman Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Systems are only as good as the people in them, whether right or wrong people don't want to be equal. People that are above to not want to be equal more like and believe you me, there are more people bellow that wouldn't mind a bit of equality. Again, f*ck capitalism and anyone that supports it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubby Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Why would people want equality though? If you do/make something that helps thousands of people, you'd obviously want more than some next guy who's sweeping the streets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashman Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Why would people want equality though? If you do/make something that helps thousands of people, you'd obviously want more than some next guy who's sweeping the streets. Why should you want more than what you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M12 Part 2 Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Systems are only as good as the people in them, whether right or wrong people don't want to be equal. People that are above to not want to be equal more like and believe you me, there are more people bellow that wouldn't mind a bit of equality. Again, f*ck capitalism and anyone that supports it. thats the thing though people below want equality because they GAIN from it. as soon as they actually were equal they'd be looking for a way to move up again, dont get it twisted. the lower classes arent saints who are happy to be on par with everyone, they wanna move up and get more just like everyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubby Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Why would people want equality though? If you do/make something that helps thousands of people, you'd obviously want more than some next guy who's sweeping the streets. Why should you want more than what you need? that's irrelevant but the answer is because you're not satisfied with the bare minimum if you work harder than someone else you'd want more of a reward, who's to say you don't deserve that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojo Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Systems are only as good as the people in them, whether right or wrong people don't want to be equal. People that are above to not want to be equal more like and believe you me, there are more people bellow that wouldn't mind a bit of equality. Again, f*ck capitalism and anyone that supports it. thats the thing though people below want equality because they GAIN from it. as soon as they actually were equal they'd be looking for a way to move up again, dont get it twisted. the lower classes arent saints who are happy to be on par with everyone, they wanna move up and get more just like everyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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